DMC: A Rather Controversial Revision

[SuperSonicTL]

This is weird headcanon. The light is obviously the human, and even in the manga scan the light that is the human world precedes the split occurring, and there's no conceivable basis for a demon lord to be called the light.

Then go on and explain what that second light is? There is no second light in the entire series soo it raises numerous question what it is tbw.

And no, the manga doesn't says anything about another light, You can only make sense out of it if you assume Human World one day decided to randomly spawn outside of Underworld's infinite expense which leads into logical fallacy because Demon World clearly won't let it get away from it like that so something has to separate it and only Pluto is capable of such a feat at that point which is further supported by manga and Brady's guidebook

It just doesn't work no matter how you look at it.

 

[Ningenron]

It literally talks about separating heaven (demon world) and earth (Human world). Unless some mental gimnasticas are involved, it's hard to read the text and come to another conclusion.

So you just ignored the entirety of my argument regarding this? Cool.

There is evidence that the worlds were separated, this same book mentions how a demon god (named pluto in the eng localization) will be the one performing it

You're just repeating yourself; I already address these.

same with Arkham retelling of the story about the creation of the world.

He's retailing Sparda’s story.

I know you didn't even bother to read the manga so allow me to repeat myself, the ******* world was unstable after the human world was born, both worlds were being torn apart so he had to come in and do it.

You guys really focusing on the instability part; that shit is referring to how the human world and demon world were clashing over and over and the humans getting slaughtered, hence chaos was produced repeatedly.

It would be if Arkham wasn't talking about the literal genesis of the world when telling that story. Sparda and Mundus came in only 2k years prior to the main story and god knows how long after the genesis.

He wasn't talking about the genesis, what? Even then, that'd be irrelevant, because the statement of Sparda coming says 'At some point/For the umpteenth time'—which you just ignored—implying time passed since the previous panel.

You translated these and yet you are turning a blind eye to them.

It literally says there that the world was unstable from being born and both were suffering from this, during one of the many times both worlds were being torn apart a demon came in and struck a stake.

It's, as it says, during the times or close to the creation of the world.

Exactly what's ambiguous here? I can't spoon feed you everything.

"You're joking, right? 'During the birth of the earth and the heavens' and 'Heaven and earth were from birth/inherently unstable' aren't the same at all, like what? The former is speaking within the period, while the latter is talking in the past tense; completely different nuance.

And again, you guys are still focusing too much on the instability tidbits. The context is still about how the human world and demon world were clashing over and over, with humans getting slaughtered. That’s why Sparda came and struck the Earth so it wouldn’t be torn/split apart by the heaven. That’s the entirety of the context you keep ignoring while making stuff up instead. like, hes literally doing it for the sake of humans.

Exactly what's ambiguous here? I can't spoon feed you everything.

You pretty much know but turning an blind eye to it.

Ah yes, definitively talking about Mundus who's intentions and actions are the exact opposite, 100% him

You have yet, or anybody for that matters, address my nuances argument there. So yeah. It's him.

Unless now you think Mundus has black wings.

Even ignoring Kamiya's tweet it's clear to anyone who bothered to play the series this isn't about Mundus.

OP already address this.

What light? Ohh, you are talking about a non-existent PoC scan... well, sad for you because it doesn't exist nor is it canon

I don't care about PoC or whether some of its scans are nonexistent or not canon; that's y'all's game.

I'm arguing from the Manga: the light spawned, the world was eventually split into two, and Pluto is nowhere mentioned or said to have involvement, nor is there any reason for it.

Like, think about it: a single world existed, some new world came, and now there are two. Therefore, the original world is split. It's not hard to interpret.

Official PoC staff. He explicitly stated in that same stream that they got permissions from capcom and itsuno to do with the story as they please. Way more power than any of us here to state and claim stuff.

Thats not a direct evidence; provide some of him of having such authority to shape the main series lore however he likes.


Funny how you also ignore a couple points of my arguments, also.

 

[Deagonx]

Then go on and explain what that second light is?

No second light is mentioned. You extrapolated from a very dubious premise.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

No second light is mentioned. You extrapolated from a very dubious premise.

It says "First" light Deagon. You can't make this up.

However, even if I disregard this situation, I can still argue that the "splitting in halve" stuff is talking about it in poetic fashion as to how Human World coming into Demon World caused wide spread chaos inside the structure which is consistent according to how manga is depicting the event so it ultimately wouldn't mean anything at the end of the day.

 

[GarrixianXD]

After reading arguments from both sides and doing a bit of research on the Chinese side of the PoC content myself, I'm more inclined to agree with the OP.