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lucifer morningstar (dc comics)

  1. Kuuzo7

    Evidence for Lucifer being the Great Darkness

    The purpose of this thread is to show that Dan Watters claim on Lucifer being the Great Darkness should not be as controversial as it seems. Evidences have already been brought forward in the thread below, but did not address the seeming contradictions, such as the Great Darkness description in...
  2. Ned_the_outer_god

    How far above Baseline are the 1-As in DC comics?

    The title
  3. Ebitan34

    Battler Ushiromiya vs Lucifer Morningstar

    Battler is EOS, Lucifer Morningstar is at his full power. Who wins?
  4. Akrhd098

    Lucifer Morningstar ( DC Comics) vs Bai Xiaochun ( Ergenverse)

    Profile of Lucifer Morningstar: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lucifer_Morningstar_(DC_Comics) Profile of Bai Xiaochun: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bai_Xiaochun_(Eternal_World) Both is at their peak and fully powered. Who will win?
  5. Omniface

    he no exist

    he told me himself also is power rating 1A is off I think it was more 4C maximum
  6. FaMaGo

    Some Misconceptions About Death of the Endless

    Hi. I see there are some misconceptions here, about Death of the Endless' power and influence(mostly related to beings like Lucifer and above). For example, I read here in this page and forum, that she can claim Lucifer Morningstar, because of what he said to Silk Man in the Void: Silk Man: I...
  7. Botsdalino

    Could Lucifer Morningstar (Vertigo) Solo this verses?

    Vertigo Lucifer Morningstar tried to solo some verses Round 1 : Naruto Verse Round 2 : OPM Verse Round 3 : DragonBall Verse Round 4 : Nasuverse Round 5 : Toaru Verse Round 6 : Touhou Verse Round 7 : SMT verse Round 8 : Marvel Bonus Rounds: 1. RWBY 2. Solo Leveling 3. Ajin 4...
  8. DuckKing342

    Trigon vs. Lucifer Morningstar

    Both are unrestricted. Thought this was interesting because botha re like top tier demons. (Trigon is so powerful Mar Novu puts him in the same tier as The Spectre, Lucifer is formerly an archangel like Raguel who may or may not be AztarThe Spectre)
  9. Botsdalino

    Lucifer Morningstar (Vertigo Comics) VS Meng Hao (Eos ISSTH)

    Both is at their peak and fully powered Vertigo Lucifer Morningstar VS EOS Meng Hao Both are bloodlusted Battle takes place at endless battle arena Lose by death
  10. OfficialGilgamesh

    SCP 2747 vs Lucifer Morningstar

    Who wins?
  11. Botsdalino

    Lucifer and Michael (Vertigo) VS the whole nasuverse

    All is at their full power Battle takes place in some endless space Lose by death or erasure
  12. Angel88441

    Talos (Elder Scrolls) vs Lucifer (DC Comics)

    " You have suffered for me to win this throne, and I see how you hate jungle. Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you. " Talos...
  13. Botsdalino

    Lucifer Morningstar (Vertigo Comics) VS Medea Pideth Machina (Shield Hero Novel)

    Both at full power This is Vertigo Comics Lucifer vs Web Novel version of Medea Lose By Death Both are bloodlusted
  14. SpiritofVengeance01

    Lucifer revision

    There are some wrong information on Lucifer's page. 1. "Transduality (Transcends The Endless and creation)" Concepts that The Endless represents are much older than Lucifer. Yahweh admitted that he was shaped by dreams (Confirmed by Mike Carey). Death claimed creations and beings that are...
  15. AB1124

    Lucifer Morningstar (DC comics) VS Pennywise

    Both tier 1-A Lucifer makes his presence known in the Macroverse (because that's seemingly the only place where this Pennywise is at his 1-A tier). Who wins?
  16. TheEndlessDesire

    Lucifer Morningstar VS Michael Demiurgos

    Both are pretty much equal and opposites. Equalize bloodlust, both are 1-A.
  17. Oliver_de_jesus

    Vertigo/DC cómics/Sandman universe

    Well I was wondering since DC is too far from vertigo, and the new unconsciousness that is in Lucifer's new career asked me can we still climb the old reliable career? they already know perpetually and their children What basically refers to the presence and their children. or at least Sandman...
  18. VAVADevil32

    Lucifer Morningstar (DC Comics) vs The Anti-Monitor (DC Comics)

    "Why do they blame me for all their little failings? They use my name as if I spent my entire days sitting on their shoulders, forcing them to commit acts they would otherwise find repulsive. 'The devil made me do it.' I have never made one of them do anything. Never. They live their own tiny...
  19. OfficialGilgamesh

    Lucifer Morningstar vs SCP 3812

    Who wins?
  20. VeryGoofyToddler2

    Michael Demiurgos Vs Lucifer Morningstar

    Infinite Raw Power vs Infinite Will
  21. Owennoctis

    All Lucifer appearances are canon

    there's content on the Lucifer page saying the 2018 Lucifer run is non- canon and a reboot. But the writer himself has said everything before that was written by Holy and Carey happened. Lucifer is "a fractal figure", as said Dan Watters...
  22. Ultima_Reality

    Lucifer Morningstar Speed Upgrade

    This was bugging me for a while, so might as well get over with it. So, Lucifer without his Morningstar Power is currently ranked at Massively FTL+, and a quite high degree of it at that, notably because of this feat, where he seemingly processes the entirety of the Universe's 20.000.000.000...
  23. VeryGoofyToddler2

    Lucifer Morningstar and Beyonder Explanation

    Well fanboys drop the cap and ill give my most honest and unbiased answer. Answer: Lucifer Morningstar Explanation : Well here my explanation its quite simple Morningstar is just more powerful. Lucifer to begin with is a archangel and by that it means he predates creation, was responsible for...
  24. Joemungousaur

    Vertigo revisions

    I think Vertigo characters' pages need a lot of works and i'll try to help you in this. Death and Dream must have solid Outerversal ratings. Dream has enough 1-A feats to be 1-A (which has in his page) and being a primal truth which compose every aspect of The Presence's creation doesn't...
  25. Is a profile for Great Evil Beast really necessary?

    This was something that slipped out my mind. According to Lucifer 2018 we have some new information about Lucifer. When traversing the different pantheons of mythology we stumble upon this: You see that giant black hand in the background of first pic or the hand that caught the shard in the...
  26. By_My_Neck

    Lucifer predates the concept of an Afterlife

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U98k_AFYXp6bUlQ_XGNzCc445mZI861ALZRDwU5Da08u06Xz0Z_9xYCqb_ufVN5brGnGP1_0Tnu4vUCcgw1tFLAE-l06_6fFhWAOUcEXxviuGWHg-w9lr7NKQAV9j-WnACYvV8IqQ=s1600
  27. Iceber1234

    How do I prove to my friend that Made In Heaven can't do anything to Lucifer Morningstar

    His argument is that only "God" can keep up with Made In Heaven's speed and Lucifer was made by God so he loses. I tried explaining but he won't listen. EDIT: Now he's saying that Pucci meant God from the real world so he's above Lucifer. I don't know what to say anymore.
  28. KingOfEternity

    Lucifer | Global Revision | Some additions

    First of all, The Map of DC Creation. We can see that Bleed and basic universes stay in the one plane of reality, Bleed is innumerable-dimensional space. The Sphere of Gods transcends the bleed and basic universes, Orion sees them like air bubbles Superman notes, that SoG is beyond...
  29. PokeMeAndDie

    In reference to this scan from Lucifer issue #75 dealing with 'endless conjunctions' as he flew into the void.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/Ih8V90348g8YOIoIxzkQcPeT03QeF_Q8M2Q9L6Qb1XE1MOqvcEHaD10fAhf_M5E83z8bLS2cQI9j=s1600 Does that mean that there are different versions of Lucifer even though their was supposed to be only 'one' version of him in the multiverse?
  30. DarkHunter89

    Some things about Lucifer

    The first thing I want to get started is with Lucifer being outside of Destiny. While it does seem that he was able to escape it at the end, Lucifer actually was never completely outside of Destiny. This is proven when he "burned" Destinys book, Destiny still basically knew that exactly that...
  31. DamnINeedABreak

    Micheal Demiurgos/Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder/Molecule Man

    The Brothers Vs The Friends Whos Win I think Mike and Luci What Do You Think
  32. DamnINeedABreak

    Lucifer Is More Powerful Than You Think

    Lol I'm getting tired of theards like TLT vs Lucifer/Michael same goes for Beyonder and Mlecule Man its always a 2v1. Let me explain. Marvel Cosmicology isn't quite that of DC. As stated, but debunked the highest it goes before reaching infinte is 16th Demionisal. The thing is back in the...
  33. Obscenly

    So

    Lucifer Morningstar can solo the Marvel Multiverse.
  34. Mercury_$erpent

    Some new additions for Spectre

    Spectre amped by Source Let's start with this version. Spectre got all Source'es power, which has 1-A tier. Spectre has become all creation, including Bleed, which has innumerable spatial dimensions . So, this version should has At least 1-B, likely 1-A tier About abilities: Omnipresence...
  35. Slenderblak

    oblivion vs lucifer morning star

    speed equalized fight until death oblivion 1 lucifer 0
  36. Mercury_$erpent

    Lucifer massively above than baseline

    Lucifer is beyond Yahweh's plan and all creation, and he transcends Destiny. Destiny is on the top of Creation, so he transcends it. And he also transcends Perpetua (via this feat ), bcs all creation is part of his book. So, at least: Lucifer>Destiny>Perpetua>Brothers=Baseline 1-A. And I...
  37. NihilDifficileAmanti

    Hadou gods vs DC Team

    Hadou Gods (Mercurius, Reinhard Heydrich, Marie, Ren Fuji) DC Team (Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, Perpetua, Death of the Endless)
  38. Lord_of_Apokolips

    Question about Lucifer

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ftI4xYzynBv5w0YX7WutRCGU0nvyLvH8YEzV_kAP1qdpowHjUoAUhvfQq96PjqouA7zLLNXCmuc=s1600 Can someone explain this scan to me ? These are different Lucifer of several timelines ?
  39. Lord_of_Apokolips

    Why Lucifer Morningstar is 1A ?

    Transcending space and time is not necessarily 1A and how to transcend infinity is 1A ?
  40. ENDLESSGOD

    Lucifer Morningstar VS The Thought Robot

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