Lucifer vs Lucifer

[WinsonDetamp]

Lucifer (SMT)

Lucifer (Shin Megami Tensei)

Lucifer is the foremost leader of the Chaos faction, and the de-facto governor of all demonkind, whose rule extends to all beings that dwell in darkness, and whose influence in creation can be felt at length as the war between Law and Chaos rages across all of reality. Having once abided in...

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Lucifer (DC)

Lucifer Morningstar (DC Comics)

Why do they blame me for all their little failings? They use my name as if I spent my entire days sitting on their shoulders, forcing them to commit acts they would otherwise find repulsive. 'The devil made me do it.' I have never made one of them do anything. Never. They live their own tiny...

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Both at 1A key
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Lucifer (SMT): 1

SuperSeaLight​

Lucifer (DC comics)
Inconclusive:

 

[Confluctor]

DC's Lucifer has superior hax


Also what's the ap difference?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

DC's Lucifer has superior hax

Does he really? Check Cognitive Physiology, along with notable attacks, all Chaos Demons are apart of him.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Shin Megami Tensei Lucifer scales above Lucifer plus his 2 walls of hax outright negates DC Lucifer

 

[CrystalValley]

so is SMT Lucifer baseline 1-A or does he actually get into the higher layers of 1-A? by higher layers i mean actual layers and not just having an AP above baseline.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

so is SMT Lucifer baseline 1-A or does he actually get into the higher layers of 1-A? by higher layers i mean actual layers and not just having an AP above baseline.

Yes. Layers.

 

[SuperSeaLight]

How does SMT Lucifer get past DC Lucifer's High-Godly Regen, Immortality, and his wall of hax such as Beyond-Dimensional Existence and Transduality? Unless SMT Lucifer is higher into 1-A, DC Lucifer wins via hax such as Sealing, and Causality Manipulation.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Does he really? Check Cognitive Physiology, along with notable attacks, all Chaos Demons are apart of him.

None of that is a problem to him, at all.

 

[SuperSeaLight]

Just figured that out as well, when i went to the Cognitive Physiology page. Currently I'm not voting for anyone.

 

[SuperSeaLight]

Seems like both are pretty even when it comes to intelligence, but SMT Lucifer has better hax, negation techniques and has BDE Type 3 whereas Lucifer (DC) has Type 2. SMT Lucifer can likely just negate many of DC Lucifer's powers as well as SMT Lucifer resists alot of powers that DC Lucifer likely uses, not to mention that SMT Lucifer has more versatility. Going with SMT Lucifer.

 

[WinsonDetamp]

vote counted

 

[Deadguy]

I knew someone was going to make this matchup ever since the smt 1-A upgrades

Anyway it seems SMT Lucifer have higher AP and better haxs so I will vote for him

 

[Deadguy]

Wait does DC Lucifer have any wicons?because if not then this is a stomp

 

[SuperSeaLight]

It doesn't seem like DC Lucifer has any wincons, due SMT Lucifer's Cognitive Physiology, which can basically negate just about anything that DC Lucifer has.

 

[WinsonDetamp]

Should i restrict anything to make DC lucifer have wincon? looks like cognitive physiology cant be restricted

 

[SuperSeaLight]

If you restrict Cognitive Physiology in it's entirely then DC Lucifer wins.

 

[Deadguy]

Should i restrict anything to make DC lucifer have wincon? looks like cognitive physiology cant be restricted

I don't think you can restrict that or this matchup won't be added to their profiles

 

[Deadguy]

But it's a stomp either way so it should be closed

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

If you restrict Cognitive Physiology in it's entirely then DC Lucifer wins.

That would literally be restricting his existence.

 

[SuperSeaLight]

Why quote my message? I already had the idea that if you would restrict his Cognitive Physiology that you take away everything he has.

 

[Nierre]

Lucifer claps.