Lucifer Morningstar Revision.

[The_Mysterious_Star]

Small Content addition for Lucifer Morningstar.

Justifications:​

These are for Abilities or stats that he already has.

• For his Matter Manipulation: Ignites new stars.
• For his Durability: Tanks a point-blank universe-busting energy blast from his brother Michael, without even a scratch.
• For his Fire Manipulation: Generates a massive fire explosion to incinerate several Norse giants.
• For his Reality Warping: Brings someone into the mind-space of a dying man, allowing her to look around and extract information.
• For his Biological Manipulation: Gives someone a heart attack while watching from a different universe.
• For his Telekinesis: Telekinesis with enough power and fine control to chop goons into neatly sliced chunks.
• For his Mind Manipulation: While mortal and powerless in the realm of the Japanese god-pantheon, the Japanese gods send a warrior demon disguised as a geisha to assassinate Lucifer. Despite being unarmed and completely vulnerable, Lucifer immediately unleashes his customary snarking and manipulation, then promptly convinces her to not kill him, persuades her to switch sides, and convinces her to tell him the Japanese gods' entire plot AND allow HIM to kill HER. Realizing their mistake, the Japanese gods grumble that the demon's best chance of success would have been killing Lucifer before he could open his mouth.

New Abilities:​

• Resurrection: Resurrects a Hell demon from a fossilized skeleton.
• Transmutation: Shrinks a mansion down to handheld size.

The Below are for the New 52:​

• Portal Creation & BFR: Can create portals and suck beings in it
  
  
• Empowerment: Gave etrigan his full strength, and more
  
• Hellfire Manipulation: Lucifer burned the guard demons to hades castle to ashes, the second scan shows the ashes

 

[Teezar]

For his Durability: Tanks a point-blank universe-busting energy blast from his brother Michael, without even a scratch.

It was actually stated as a creation destroying attack so lucifer had to take Micheal outside of creation(into the void) to tank Micheal's creation destroying attack and the resurrected him with a wave of his hand. Then used that energy to create his own world.

The Below are for the New 52:​

• Portal Creation & BFR: Can create

New 52 lucifer doesn't have a key and and sure lucifer 2016 lucifer doesn't also. And new 52 based on the book and everything was an early lucifer before he got the scar.

But everything looks at a glance I guess.

 

[Confluctor]

Everything looks pretty good. But as Teezar said, it was way more than a single universe that blew up in his face.


Also, in regards to new 52, I don't think he needs a separate key. The likes of Lucifer and such weren't affected.

 

[N_Kardashev]

Absolute Will for lucifer (or does that fall under supernatural willpower)

 

[Confluctor]

Supernatural willpower

 

[Teezar]

Since his the presence will so supernatural will would do.

 

[KieranH10]

I don't think shrinking a mansion down is transmutation, should be size manip. But the rest makes sense to me.

 

[Teezar]

I'm prolly gonna add more abilities to lucy profile but I'm gonna have to read his books again and how about his feat he destroyed the mansion of silence via his presence which holds rejected universes and other creations? No need to be added on his profile?

Plus he created something out of nothing in lucifer 2018 which is weird to be honest as he can't create out nothing.

 

[DaReaperMan]

This looks good at a glance

 

[Antvasima]

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What do you think about this?

 

[Deagonx]

Looks good, though I agree with Kieran's correction of describing the mansion feat as size manipulation.

 

[LordTracer]

For his Reality Warping: Brings someone into the mind-space of a dying man, allowing her to look around and extract information.

I don’t think this really qualifies for reality warping.

Transmutation: Shrinks a mansion down to handheld size.

This is size manip, not transmutation.

Everything else is fine.

 

[KieranH10]

I don’t think this really qualifies for reality warping.

I mustn't have caught that, wouldn't that be some kind of immersion?

 

[Antvasima]

Everything looks pretty good. But as Teezar said, it was way more than a single universe that blew up in his face.


Also, in regards to new 52, I don't think he needs a separate key. The likes of Lucifer and such weren't affected.

Actually, in an early Post-Flashpoint Stormwatch story, a revised version of Lucifer appeared. I think that he was defeated by King Arthur or somesuch. It was an awful comic book.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, the powers that apply for the classic Gaiman/Carey version (not the ones demonstrated by the early Post-Flashpoint version) are probably fine to apply.

 

[LordTracer]

I mustn't have caught that, wouldn't that be some kind of immersion?

Kinda? Immersion seems to be specifically going from reality to fiction. I’m not sure what this would qualify for tbh

 

[Unwanted]

Nice.
I don't think he used mind manip with the assassin. He simply fooled her.
Power bestowal: he made Elaine a god and gave her power over everything in his creation, including concepts, except for hedgehogs. And he did it fairly easy, with a gesture. He evidently also equipped her with nigh-omniscience (she knew the little swamp thing was hiding from her along with someone else and the events happening in the other multiverse). Also, his creations had powers and abilities.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, the powers that apply for the classic Gaiman/Carey version (not the ones demonstrated by the early Post-Flashpoint version) are probably fine to apply.

So about this...

Is somebody here who knows how to edit properly and what to apply willing to handle this please?

 

[Deagonx]

Actually, in an early Post-Flashpoint Stormwatch story, a revised version of Lucifer appeared. I think that he was defeated by King Arthur or somesuch. It was an awful comic book.

There was also that one Demon comic where Etrigan's dad apparently defeated Lucifer, which also made absolutely no sense.

 

[Tarang123]

There was also that one Demon comic where Etrigan's dad apparently defeated Lucifer, which also made absolutely no sense.

Lmao what? What’s the comic called?

also, we should stop derailing

 

[Deagonx]

Lmao what? What’s the comic called?

also, we should stop derailing

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