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Lucifer Morningstar vs Michael Demiurgos
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What's the difference in AP?
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I don’t know.
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Lucifer, canon wise, he should scale above Michael. Way above in fact. So yeah, he wins, and possibly very easily too
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I was always confused by this. I thought Michael was supposed to be very slightly superior to Lucifer, but the greater feats seem to come from Lucy.
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I think it's because Lucifer just didn't want to show off his power until he was forced otherwise.
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I've read Lucifer 2000 to 2016 but I dropped 2018 as I don't understand shit about it. But yh,it's been believed that Micheal is the most powerful archangel but morpheus also believed apart from yahwey Lucy is superior to everyone(I think this was stated in Sandman run).
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They are equal so incon
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While that's true, it's still weird
I mean, from what little I've read about them, again, Michael is supposed to be juuust slightly superior to Lucifer, but Lucifer's feats makes a supposed superiority not only questionable but even being near in power
Lucifer managed to re-create Michael after he was erased with extreme ease, and all feats that he has that involve Michael are done with ease as well
They do not seem comparable, really
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Just a wave of his hand
.Lucifer has the feats Micheal has the statements.
People believe them to be equal but it doesn't change the fact one can stomp another. Lucifer could really have been all powerful except he can't create out of nothing.
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It was also stated Micheal could end the war with a flex.Just a wave of his hand
Lucifer has the feats Micheal has the statements.
People believe them to be equal but it doesn't change the fact one can stomp another. Lucifer could really have been all powerful except he can't create out of nothing.
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The thread was already made before and since both profiles haven't been updated especially since Lucifer 2016 and 2018 or any other Sandman books on their profiles haven't been added it's safe to say lucy stomps or incon. Tho I don't see any incon between them.
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Bumping.
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Since we are using composite Lucifer he wins, but if we use a single version he would be Low 1-C/6-D same goes michael.
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Composite Lucifer is the one where you smash all the different cosmologies into one to get a 1-A cosmology. While the issues where he appears has no 1-A cosmology.
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Lucifer FRA
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Besides all this talks about different writers is bullshits especially when you got 200s of them. If you have any problem you can complain to the company about it.
The name of the verse Lucifer Morningstar is from is DC comics not writers individual stories. If asked what franchise his from it's DC.
If you have any hate or bias behaviour for comic book franchises then do it elsewhere and piss off.
The name of the verse Lucifer Morningstar is from is DC comics not writers individual stories. If asked what franchise his from it's DC.
If you have any hate or bias behaviour for comic book franchises then do it elsewhere and piss off.
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DC and Marvel are currently on the downgrade side which means many characters that are 1-A and 1-B will be downgraded to Low 1-C to 1-C
Since that is a accurate display.
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They are but haven't been done lol, we don't even know how the downgrades are gonna be lmao.
Till then for now talk based on the profiles or sensibly and quit acting like a 6 year old.
It's went you yourself want,lmao.
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San- kakaroth teezar I believe that it is not a place for hostilities from both what they believe that dc is 1A or their personal handjobs and they minimize it
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Just to add on. When writers perform world building or character development, they sometimes build off what other writers have already established. For example, in infinite frontier a concept that was established by Morrison known as “True Form Darkseid” is being expanded upon. If we were to separate things by writer, it completely cut out the scaling that would come with this development for the character.
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Bumping.
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Bumping.
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Morningstar FRA
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Lucifer is stronger in the 2000 version (he defeated Michael and tanked his full power), Michael is stronger in the 2018 version (he single handedly defeated him and cast him out of heaven in the war). I'd say they're equal or Lucifer is stronger, because the war can be ignored as Lucifer was destined to lose and fall.
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Why does this makes you happy…… that’s kinda weirdDC and Marvel are currently on the downgrade side which means many characters that are 1-A and 1-B will be downgraded to Low 1-C to 1-C
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Isn't 2018 like the history of Lucy and even before he got that scar? Though he created something out of nothing during this time.
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It's a completely different story not even a prequel to to the 2000 run.
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No it's a prequel and not a different story it explains the event before the firsts sandman
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It's a different story.
1- Michael is not captured, he is free and well unlike in Mike Carey's run.
2- The war in heaven went differently. In Mike Carey's run the Presence made a deal with Lucifer, in Dan Watters run Michael defeated him and cast him out.
3- There's no Mansions of Silence, the place where angels go when they die. in the 2018 run when an angel dies he becomes non-existent.
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