A long questions of newbei

[Rabbit2002]

1/ Create or destroy Aleph 2 universes which tier it would be? Low 1-C or Low-1A? Similar to Aleph 3 and up
2/ Would a paradoxical concept like concept of "no concept" be Nep 1 or 2? Some examples (from SCP)
"CNC : A rare substance similar in appearance and structure to glass, which primarily possesses the concept of having no concept. Conceptuvores are incapable of consuming it, due to the paradoxical conceptual property. Subjects that come onto physical contact with it will experience major conceptual changes and conceptual loss, which results in death. Inanimate objects and materials are not affected"
"Well, it… It doesn't have any concepts," Danyal said.

"Wait, so this is something like CNC?"

• Concept — A concept is the fundamental and ultimate encapsulation of the qualitative properties of a thing, and represents the basic unit of metaphysics. Concepts exist (metaphysically) independently of the things they describe, allowing for arbitrary manipulation of reality by modifying a thing's concepts.
• Conceptual Machinery — Machines that are composed of basic concepts, commonly appearing as translucent structures that are quasi-physical, resembling physical objects while lacking corporeality. These are commonly used in conceptual modification. AKA conceptual structures, "conceptech."
• Conceptuvore — An entity that feeds on or consumes concepts.
• Counterconceptual — Something which is impossible to perceive or conceptualize. A paradoxical or incomprehensible concept."

3/Acausality type 4 always grant Law manipulation resistance?
4/Does the soul of all verse have an equal in wiki? I mean there are some verses that are extremely powerful soul and OP like Undertale and Supernatural, or define them as Pure Nature of Being, more metaphysical than conventional notions (Hindu Atman), or just treat them as literally human emotions, or take them as pure data / information or living people's memories / stories about them, or take them literally in everything even AI or robot while the others do not, .. Do we all consider them difference or do we consider them the same? For example, a character from verse A has soul hax, but verse A has only humans with souls, verse B contains inanimate objects or artificial intelligence with souls, so that character can control souls of them or not?
5/A character that is the only thing in their verse that exists as a constant within the infinite possibilities of the future, irreversible by any future or future variable? So will they be passive Fate / probability hax (and resistant to it)?
6/ Manipulate possibilities in the future is causality manipulation, fate manipulation or Probability manipulation? I am quite confused by this
7/ Is concept type 2 hierarchical except for range? For example, verse A has a concept (type 2) but the scope of which they affect is only objects, affecting that concept only affects its physical objects, does not affect thoughts or memories of People if they have the some Acausality or something similar (PMMM) and verse B like A but affect thoughts and memories, and deleting it would make it impossible to idea / think of the concept (Lol)? So a character resistant to the type 2 hax concept from verse A won't be able to resist the type 2 hax concept from verse B? Similar to regen, is it possible for a character to be able to regen when their type 2 concept like verse A is deleted can it be regen when it is deleted as a type 2 concept of verse B?
8/ What is the difference between High-1A and 0 ? How many "infinity" layers are needed with the same difference between each layer as 10C and the baseline High-1A?
9/ Normally, infinite number of multiverses destruction would be the same Attack pottery as the tier 2A baseline, but I don't really understand what that notion means? Literally, something less than us countable infinite times considers the size difference between us and an atom to be none, and things from 1D to infinitely D have the same cardinal as every real number in (1,2) = R (whole sequence of real numbers) = R ^ N, like a multiverse and infinite number of same multiverses but Aleph 0 instead
10/ If a verse uses the concepts of countable infinities and ordinal numbers and considers them to be truly larger than each other, then destroying Eplison 0 universes or higher what tier it would be?
11/ A kind of seal that manipulates the "Very Reality" boundary (not alternate realities or something like that but it is Reality itself/ existence) of anything, changing the scope or nature of what is regarded them as "reality" to them, causing them to be earsed or killed if disconnected with their own reality (not within its boundaries). Is this sealing ability a reality warping + concept manipulation? Note that this ability only works for certain things, not spatially (a person sealed in where A is not in A is erased, and B unsealed can go and leave A with no problem)
For example:
"As the Father planned his next realm he saw that Davoth would never cease his search for everlasting life for his people, no matter the cost, as he had been created by the Father to care deeply for Jekkad and its children. Foreseeing that Davoth's rule would ultimately grow to threaten all creation, and that Davoth would someday rise to challenge the Father himself, the creator of all things sealed Jekkad off from the myriad dimensions enfolded in his arms."
"If it came to pass that the Dark Lord were ever reincarnated in physical form only another Primeval, or something more powerful, could slay him. Once vanquished in this manner, the Dark Lord could no longer rule Hell. Stripped of a Primeval's bindings to the realm it was forged in, it would be scattered across the stars. Any denizens of Hell not inside the realm's borders would die as they lost their connection to the VERY REALITY the Father designed them for."

 

[manu_zarri]

1/ Create or destroy Aleph 2 universes which tier it would be? Low 1-C or Low-1A? Similar to Aleph 3 and up

ok so, im going to assume Universe in this case is a 3D physical universe (so not space-time).

In context:
ℵ0 = High 3-A (and all his possible extensions, same reasoning of ℵ1)
ℵ1 = Low 2-C to 2-A (and all his possible extensions, though it depends on how much uncontable infinite universe sized you can destroy/create/influence)
ℵ2 = Low 1-C (and all his possible extensions, same reasoning of ℵ1)
And you go up.

2/ Would a paradoxical concept like concept of "no concept" be Nep 1 or 2? Some examples

Embody the concept of Nothingess give you not only AE type 1 but aslo NEP type 1 possibly 2

3/Acausality type 4 always grant Law manipulation resistance?

Yes because the logic of the universe works only on our causality system, meaning trascending law and logic is type 4, and all type 4 are basically the same

4/Does the soul of all verse have an equal in wiki? I mean there are some verses that are extremely powerful soul and OP like Undertale and Supernatural, or define them as Pure Nature of Being, more metaphysical than conventional notions (Hindu Atman), or just treat them as literally human emotions, or take them as pure data / information or living people's memories / stories about them, or take them literally in everything even AI or robot while the others do not, .. Do we all consider them difference or do we consider them the same? For example, a character from verse A has soul hax, but verse A has only humans with souls, verse B contains inanimate objects or artificial intelligence with souls, so that character can control souls of them or not?

No, all souls are different from others, there are souls maded of other souls or souls that are so strong that neither a soul resistance negation can destroy them. we also have a mesurament for soul hax. also soul are a deeper aspect than the physical body, it's the same plane of mind, and above we have info and abstact, and more deepere we have your role in the story.

5/A character that is the only thing in their verse that exists as a constant within the infinite possibilities of the future, irreversible by any future or future variable? So will they be passive Fate / probability hax (and resistant to it)?

Probably no, but depends.

6/ Manipulate possibilities in the future is causality manipulation, fate manipulation or Probability manipulation? I am quite confused by this

they are similiar, in this case since you said possibilites it's mostly probability manipulation on future.
since fate manipulate event and causality manipulate cause and effects.

7/ Is concept type 2 hierarchical except for range? For example, verse A has a concept (type 2) but the scope of which they affect is only objects, affecting that concept only affects its physical objects, does not affect thoughts or memories of People if they have the some Acausality or something similar (PMMM) and verse B like A but affect thoughts and memories, and deleting it would make it impossible to idea / think of the concept (Lol)? So a character resistant to the type 2 hax concept from verse A won't be able to resist the type 2 hax concept from verse B? Similar to regen, is it possible for a character to be able to regen when their type 2 concept like verse A is deleted can it be regen when it is deleted as a type 2 concept of verse B?

Don't know really what you meant, but affect concepts affect also the physical body and the concept. in some case if the entity have a soul or mind, it affects that too.
also concept are pretty bounded by range, if you errase concept of a thing in the universe dosen't mean you errased it also in other universes (for example)

8/ What is the difference between High-1A and 0 ? How many "infinity" layers are needed with the same difference between each layer as 10C and the baseline High-1A?

seems i need explain before the difference between 1-A and High 1-A.

ok so, start with this logic, what's the bigger number? 40? 100? 1000? no, you can add 1 to 1000, or 2, or 3 and etc... so maybe infinite is the bigger number? no, because you can still add 1 and making it bigger and etc... you can basically make it infinite and infinite, and up, this is the "Aleph 0" where ω is basically infinite and you can add a bigger infinite amount of them.

though ℵ0 according to the theory, is the smaller "Infinite". indeed after ℵ0 we have ℵ1. ℵ1 is basically a uncontable infinite, an uncontable infinite is larger than a countable infinite and has values that cannot be counted or numbered.

though after ℵ1 comes ℵ2 this is how a cycle is created. κ or ℵκ (for what i remember) is all the possible extensions of that cardinal, and Inaccessible cardinal trascend ℵκ.

basically now apply this to High 1-A (baseline is inaccessible cardinal) and you got the difference.

9/ Normally, infinite number of multiverses destruction would be the same Attack pottery as the tier 2A baseline, but I don't really understand what that notion means? Literally, something less than us countable infinite times considers the size difference between us and an atom to be none, and things from 1D to infinitely D have the same cardinal as every real number in (1,2) = R (whole sequence of real numbers) = R ^ N, like a multiverse and infinite number of same multiverses but Aleph 0 instead

I don't follow the reasoning, 2-A is a collection of infinite uncontable infinite structures. that's all

10/ If a verse uses the concepts of countable infinities and ordinal numbers and considers them to be truly larger than each other, then destroying Eplison 0 universes or higher what tier it would be?

that's a bit complicated. not really knoweldge on stuff like that.

11/ A kind of seal that manipulates the "Very Reality" boundary (not alternate realities or something like that but it is Reality itself/ existence) of anything, changing the scope or nature of what is regarded them as "reality" to them, causing them to be earsed or killed if disconnected with their own reality (not within its boundaries). Is this sealing ability a reality warping + concept manipulation? Note that this ability only works for certain things, not spatially (a person sealed in where A is not in A is erased, and B unsealed can go and leave A with no problem)
For example:
"As the Father planned his next realm he saw that Davoth would never cease his search for everlasting life for his people, no matter the cost, as he had been created by the Father to care deeply for Jekkad and its children. Foreseeing that Davoth's rule would ultimately grow to threaten all creation, and that Davoth would someday rise to challenge the Father himself, the creator of all things sealed Jekkad off from the myriad dimensions enfolded in his arms."
"If it came to pass that the Dark Lord were ever reincarnated in physical form only another Primeval, or something more powerful, could slay him. Once vanquished in this manner, the Dark Lord could no longer rule Hell. Stripped of a Primeval's bindings to the realm it was forged in, it would be scattered across the stars. Any denizens of Hell not inside the realm's borders would die as they lost their connection to the VERY REALITY the Father designed them for."

Sealing and non combat applicable reallity warping + concept manipulation. i think

 

[Darksmash]

Aleph 2 universes should qualify for low 1-A

 

[manu_zarri]

Aleph 2 universes should qualify for low 1-A

I said based on 3D Infinite

 

[Darksmash]

I said based on 3D Infinite

It would still qualify, Aleph 2 points would be low 1-A as well

 

[manu_zarri]

It would still qualify, Aleph 2 points would be low 1-A as well

can you explain me why it should qualify for low 1-A?

 

[Darksmash]

can you explain me why it should qualify for low 1-A?

Low 1-A means having uncountably infinite higher dimensions, which can be represented as R^R(R amount of higher dimensions)

And the cardinality of R^R(in terms of number of points) is Aleph 2(with CH)

So Aleph 2 amount of anything should qualify

 

[manu_zarri]

Low 1-A means having uncountably infinite higher dimensions, which can be represented as R^R(R amount of higher dimensions)

And the cardinality of R^R(in terms of number of points) is Aleph 2(with CH)

So Aleph 2 amount of anything should qualify

that's different because if we assume Universe is 3-A
Aleph 0 is all infinite extensions
Low 2-C is being uncontable infinite above than High 3-A and up to 2-A with all possible extensions (aleph 1)
and aleph 2 is Low 1-C because it's uncontable infintie higher than 4D infinite and Infinite 5D Low 1-C with all his possible extensions (aleph 2)

 

[Darksmash]

that's different because if we assume Universe is 3-A
Aleph 0 is all infinite extensions
Low 2-C is being uncontable infinite above than High 3-A and up to 2-A with all possible extensions (aleph 1)
and aleph 2 is Low 1-C because it's uncontable infintie higher than 4D infinite and Infinite 5D Low 1-C with all his possible extensions (aleph 2)

That's wrong
The entirety of High 1-B and Tier 2 falls under Aleph 1.

 

[manu_zarri]

That's wrong
The entirety of High 1-B and Tier 2 falls under Aleph 1.

hm, why exactly? isn't Aleph 1 Uncontable infinite for all his possible extension?

 

[Darksmash]

hm, why exactly? isn't Aleph 1 Uncontable infinite for all his possible extension?

Yes but stacking another uncountable infinity won't take you to the next aleph
Aleph 1 x Aleph 1= still aleph 1
You need exponent to proceed to the next Aleph
Aleph 1^Aleph 1= Aleph 2

 

[manu_zarri]

Yes but stacking another uncountable infinity won't take you to the next aleph
Aleph 1 x Aleph 1= still aleph 1
You need exponent to proceed to the next Aleph
Aleph 1^Aleph 1= Aleph 2

Aleph 1 can have infinite and infinite and infinite, but they won't be higher than themself.
meaning it's Low 2-C to 2-A

 

[Darksmash]

Aleph 1 can have infinite and infinite and infinite, but they won't be higher than themself.
meaning it's Low 2-C to 2-A

This legit went over my head. What are you saying here?

 

[manu_zarri]

This legit went over my head. What are you saying here?

That there would be more than infinite uncontable infinite, but that dosent mean it's an higher uncontable infinite