Why does killing a Type 1 Abstract only require NPI?

[TheGatememer]

If you are literally killing a being who is the concept of something, shouldn’t you need like conceptual destruction or something?

 

[Livinmeme]

NPI should have diferent types of Interacting TBH like this

1. interacting with not physical things but still material like air
2. interacting things that are not physical and not material like feelings or tougths or ghost
3. and interacting with metaphysical things like laws or concepts

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

NPI should have diferent types of Interacting TBH like this

1. interacting with not physical things but still material like air
2. interacting things that are not physical and not material like feelings or tougths or ghost
3. and interacting with metaphysical things like laws or concepts

That's what was being argued for existence erasure as well, but the staff decided that it would be easier to just add a description alongside the ability.

Looking back on it now, I see their point since it would require changing multiple pages that have existence erasure just to add type 1, type 2, etc. and that would require a lot of work when there is a simpler solution.

 

[TheGatememer]

Bump

 

[QuasiYuri]

Because you just need to be able to harm them?

 

[TheGatememer]

I mean, Type 5 Immortals can be harmed but not killed

 

[Bernkastelll]

If you are literally killing a being who is the concept of something, shouldn’t you need like conceptual destruction or something?

Killing an AE type 1 that is AE due embodiment of a concept is conceptual manip, just look at yogiri, however, there has characters that are AE type 1 without being embodiment of concept, so, it just falls under NPI

 

[ATalentedMaid]

Anyway you should read this thread

 

[TheGatememer]

Anyway you should read this thread

So just interacting with them is NPI, but killing them is Concept Manip?

 

[Rez]

So just interacting with them is NPI, but killing them is Concept Manip?

AE type 1 characters aren't just concepts things like thoughts, emotion and information also qualifies if the character being killed is an concept than yes it should be concept manipulation

 

[TheGatememer]

AE type 1 characters aren't just concepts things like thoughts, emotion and information also qualifies if the character being killed is an concept than yes it should be concept manipulation

Okay, thanks

 

[Rez]

But, just becouse you interact with a type of AE 1, that doesn't mean that you can interact with all types of abstractions.

Just becouse you interact with someone who embodies a will, It doesn't mean that you would be able to interact with a abstract being that embodies a concept, such as time.

When did I say just because someone can interact with one form of abstraction they can interact with others too. I just said it's concept manipulation only if the abstract being being killed is an concept or embodies an concept