Hi, sorry to bother you again but this topic is something I need to wrap my head around for LotR.
"Are there any 'bounds to a writer's job' except those imposed by his own finiteness? No bounds, but the laws of contradiction, I should think."
This quote was used to describe the role of the Sub-Creator rather than the Creator I believe, as in Tolkien himself and other authors in the "Real World", this cosmologically puts the "Real World" as High 1-A+
The "Real World" is viewed by Eru as fiction again, being that Eru is author of even "us" and that's wonderful support for Tier 0.
However, the "Primary Reality" that the Ainur reside in is described as, at the very least, on par with the "Real World" in existence if not above it (depending on how literally the Timeless Halls are Eru's abode. It's the awkward situation of Seraphim around God's Throne sort of thing).
The Ainur in their origin at the very least rival "authors" in terms of existence (with the Valar being granted titles as Sub-Creators in their own right, albeit in reference to their work in making the material world).
So going back to my earlier rushed reactionary comment, would this result in the entire race (and the many existing sub-creators) being High 1-A+ in origin? Was it not only possible for only 1 character to be High 1-A+ per verse?
Of course this is assuming that the transferring of the quote to Sub-Creators doesn't shake the quote's usability too much.
"Are there any 'bounds to a writer's job' except those imposed by his own finiteness? No bounds, but the laws of contradiction, I should think."
This quote was used to describe the role of the Sub-Creator rather than the Creator I believe, as in Tolkien himself and other authors in the "Real World", this cosmologically puts the "Real World" as High 1-A+
The "Real World" is viewed by Eru as fiction again, being that Eru is author of even "us" and that's wonderful support for Tier 0.
However, the "Primary Reality" that the Ainur reside in is described as, at the very least, on par with the "Real World" in existence if not above it (depending on how literally the Timeless Halls are Eru's abode. It's the awkward situation of Seraphim around God's Throne sort of thing).
The Ainur in their origin at the very least rival "authors" in terms of existence (with the Valar being granted titles as Sub-Creators in their own right, albeit in reference to their work in making the material world).
So going back to my earlier rushed reactionary comment, would this result in the entire race (and the many existing sub-creators) being High 1-A+ in origin? Was it not only possible for only 1 character to be High 1-A+ per verse?
Of course this is assuming that the transferring of the quote to Sub-Creators doesn't shake the quote's usability too much.
First of all about quantity, can inaccessible amount of baseline outerversal reach high outerversal? or would it still be baseline outerversal since it is still the same quality?
I was thinking to myself about EMR (extended model realism) and apophatic theology. Can these reach above low outerversal?
I don't know about the former but the latter might have solid arguments for Tier 0.
Well it's clear mathematical differences are low outerversal at best.
so how about math differences in higher qualities? is it possible to have math on a higher quality? For example a character 7 layers into outerversal that scales to inaccessible cardinal on that level of quality (which should be superior to even Mahlo or absolute Infinity of someone 6 layers into outerversal)
in short, higher quality of math ON that level of quality.
or are these nonsense and can't be applied?
we know BDE can reach baseline outerversal, so I assume we can have higher levels of BDE thus higher levels of quality yeah?
other than BDE, what other hax or existence type can reach outerversal? NEP? also being above dimensionality should be baseline yeah? How about being above concept of dimensionality?
Finally about nonduality and transduality and plurality or just overall duality since it's confusing for me, how high can it scale? Like can being above it be Tier 0? (this one from a nasuverse fan, mostly for ryougi shiki, asking if anyone or being can reach tier 0 in nasuverse)
I'm so sorry for asking this much and it's okay if you decide to answer them later.
Thanks