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Arceus0x

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  • Gohanblanco217
    Good to see you back
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    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    I'm only back for a while. There's a bunch of big kirby revisions and i promised I'd be here for them.
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    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Eh..... What about Pokemon?
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    I kinda quit with the pokemon stuff. I quit the whole wiki... It's just that i always wanted to see higher tier kirby. Also i am going to continue the 8-A pokemon tournament
    Gohanblanco217
    Is there a way to translate this?

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    LaserPrecision
    I wanted to help out with your CRT for Pokemon to be Tier 7 up to Tier 6. I didn't want to post in the thread since it's a LOT of pictures, but I think these feats might help:

    "Not sure if it would help much since it was a feat performed by Lance (Elite Four member), Lance's Dragonair which he had just captured was able to completely destroy a city:
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    While there are many buildings still around, I assumed that to be neighboring cities or something since it's consistently stated afterward that the city was completely destroyed and that many more would be:

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    A potential supportive feat based on the size of the explosion. The Elite Four's power was also comparable to natural disasters such as earthquakes and tornadoes:

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    (This manga panel is reversed, so read it like a comic)

    One more feat that I'm not sure can be calculated like the previous two possibly can is that Yellow's Megavolt was able to deflect and transform the energy of the Gym badges and the resultant explosion spread the energy across seemingly most of the region of Kanto:

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    (This manga panel is also reversed)
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    (also reversed)
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    (Reversed)

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    (reversed)

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    (reversed)

    I think it potentially scales incredibly high, but I wasn't sure. Albeit the attack was performed by an amped Yellow, so it should only scale to high-tier trainers. Like Red based on Giovanni's statement that he thinks no one would come close to trainers like Yellow or Red.
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    LaserPrecision
    LaserPrecision
    It could of also just of been altered when Lance arrived. Again, Lance can't mind control.
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    Then why can't this be the conclusion? That he made the Dragonair submit? I mean, it clearly looked startled/surprised once Lance arrived, and Yellow who can read Pokemon's thoughts also seemed confused. Albeit, I can't remember if they can only read memories by contact or not.
    It doesn't have to be brought up, the E4 was sneaky at what they do. A random person could of been told to give the Dragonair to that guy as a prize and the Dragonair put on an act until Lance arrived. That random person could of also of not known what they were getting into, not everyone knew who the E4 was, that Super Nerd didn't know who Agatha was.
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    My argument is that from a narrative standpoint that makes no sense. If it were a set-up from The Elite Four, something would've or should've been implemented into the story to suggest that. Otherwise, we have no reason to interpret that to be so. Just like hints were given to us that Super Nerd was manipulated by Agatha for a set-up. Think of it from a story-writing perspective.
    From how strong that Hyper Beam was, stated to be "trained", and it using Hyper Beam the way Lance himself has taught his other pokemon, it's clear it was Lance's from the start.
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    I wouldn't say it's that clear. The strongest evidence is that its moves are similar to that of Lance's own Dragonair. However, it should be noted that in the chapter where Lance stole Dragonair, he stated that his talent was to control Dragon Pokemon after seemingly controlling Dragonair (Thus the strange expression it had as he showed up). In that very instance, he could've gained control over Dragonair from just his innate talent alone. Also, what about the strength of the Hyper Beam? A Palowswine trained by a rando Team Rocket Grunt had a feat calculated WAY higher than what the Dragonair's Hyper Beam was calculated at. As for the Hyper Beam, have we seen any other Pokemon use Hyper Beam in General? If so, did it function differently? I haven't gotten super far into the manga. I'm only in the Ruby and Saphire era currently.
    SpeedsterX123
    SpeedsterX123
    1. Pretty sure they need to be near it to read its mind.

    2. Regardless, she didn't read its mind she saw its facial expression change.

    It does not have to be implied this was the set-up by the E4.

    Lance actually chose that date to go down to Vermillion City to do that feat. Sure, Lance hated humanity back then, and didn't care if people died, but he chose that specific date to go down there regardless. He could of used his Dragonair to lure more people to the event. Seems to me he wanted the humans alive to suffer against what he had planned. In fact, he attacked Yellow, yet, was going to spare Yellow at first. Even at the end of their first encounter, Lance could of easily killed her off had he wanted to at that moment after she kept following and attacking him. Same goes for the folks of Vermilion City, but not only did he go there on the date where the city was pretty much empty, but ignored the people there at the beach overall.

    Control, not mind control there's a difference. You can control a pokemon you own, doesn't mean it's going to be under mind control. Heck, Silver claimed he controlled the Gyarados of Lake Rage because he caught the Red Gyarados, all that meant was they listen to him, not that he mind controlled them. Dragons are hard to control and train in pokemon canonically, but Lance can do it no sweat after his training with them.

    I will admit me saying it's his for being that strong was wrong, as he may have the power to raise his mon's level like Yellow(doubt it would be that strong if you were right, it would be 100% illegal to give a mon so strong it can destroy cities in 1 blast as a prize) But that technique is what proves otherwise.

    Also, yes it has been used other times. Red's Gyarados, Aerodactyl, Silver's Gyarados, Cynthia's Garchomp, and so forth have used Hyper Beam. Not one other person could control it's direction like Lance.

    Overall, that Dragonair there being trained, the original owner not being mentioned at all, and especially that technique is what makes me think and will continue to make me think and say otherwise.
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    Eh i dont feel thst it's sufficient evidence ti suggest that the thing was trained super above average level. This is all speculation with no statements or manga panels to back it up and though it has a chance of being legit it makes less sense than lance seeing a cool dragonair and testing his strength using it
    Gohanblanco217
    Wanna ask is POKEMON MYSTERY Dungeon considered canon on this site?
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    yes. Not wholy canon to every species everytime but mostly canon.
    Basically we ain't gonna scale all Pokemon to low 2-C because PMD Grovyle is low 2-C, but if a PMD mon does a proper feat and that mon is shown to not be special then yes, it can be used for a species.
    Gohanblanco217
    I have a question does Pokemon elemental moves always scales to their regular stats?
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    Depends on which moves. So not always probably. For example, Will-o-wisp is probably just status effect inducement, but a flamethrower has actual impact and power
    Gohanblanco217
    Sorry for being a bother i just don't take things seriously at first but I'll promise you to stop
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    It's okay. As long as you don't bait me again it is fine
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    vsbattles.fandom.com

    Avatar (Verse)

    Avatar is a movie franchise about Humans leaving their earth in order to find more resources due to polluting their earth. They find a planet called pandora due to its reserves of Unobtainium, however this causes them to get into conflict with the natives called the Na'vi. If you want to know...
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    what do you think of the avatar verse?
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    i made it and what did you think about the movie.

    and what are your thoughts on the upcoming 2nd movie

    and do you support the verse or no or neutral?
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    here's something i want to show you

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    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    i can hardly see what your saying
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
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    Nierre
    Nierre
    WTFFF
    Artorimachi_Meteoraft
    Gohanblanco217
    You think Mega Rayquaza final form should have a 2-A key since he was able to keep up with Giratina? Or you think it's an outlier?
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    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    the movie in itself is a whole outlier
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Eh.... Is there any reason for why it would be an Outlier? I mean does Mega Rayquaza have any anti feats that would contradict his 2-A rating ?
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    one, it never showed strength of that kind in any way before
    two, if every legendary pokemon in the movie interscaled the entirety of legendary pokemon would be 2-A
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