I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be the latter. The only time I remember that being used is *Spoilers* when the Dragon Monarch made a big ball of magical energy and instead of using it offensively, he used it on the planet so it wouldn't be instantly destroyed by their armies, but it was noted that he if he had used it offesnively, it would have easily cracked it.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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Not sure that you can equate the process of creating the universe and the process of battling for one planet at a time. Also the 'Messengers'/Rulers did not create worlds, they defended them. Even after they got the power of the [Absolute], they still didn't get an enough edge over the Monarchs to decisively defeat them. |
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They are quiet clearly said to be creating,though it's most likely with an item they got like with the time Reversal one. Them not being able to decisively defeat monarchs doesn't make them not scale since there isn't one clear feat for them due to the whole planet becoming more durable over the years. |
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| The Messengers (Rulers) were designed to protect worlds, not to create them. The one making them was the Absolute, who would just keep making things for them to defend so he could keep himself entertained with their wars. Chapter 219: There was light and darkness at the same time when nothing had begun. The [Absolute] split the light into eight God's Messengers, and the darkness into eight monarchs. At the beginning, Monarchs who wanted to destroy the world and God's Messengers who wanted to save the world, killed and killed each other's soldiers endlessly. After a long war. Tired of the never-ending war, the pieces of light asked The [Absolute]. ( TLnote - Pieces of light = God's Messengers, as they were created from the fragments of light when the absolute broke light) "O Ruler" "Why don't you help the faithful servants who fight for you?" "Why do you ignore our pain?" "Do you not hear the screams of countless soldiers that die for you?" "Help Us" "Give us strength to destroy them, we will cut their heads off for you." But The [Absolute] did not respond to them. Then they learned the truth of the [Absolute]. For the [Absolute], the fight between them and the monarchs was nothing but entertainment, and the [Absolute] didn't want the fight between them to end. They were deep in despair, as they realized that the war would never end as long as the [Absolute] existed. Their despair soon turned into anger. They drew the sword to end this meaningless fight. The rebellion had begun. Jin-woo saw and endless number of soldiers covering the universe.|} |
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| There are also the feats at the end where he became as big as a mountain and stated to have World-ending power when he fought with the Dragon Emperor. |
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| Yeah, there is that too. Anyways, am I the only one that thinks he should have not been able to beat all Sovereigns on his own post time travel? The ice elf alone was stated to be able to one-shot him if he only hits, and dragon could stalemate him for quiet a bit. All of them at once should have really won. |
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| Yes. After awakening as the Shadow Monarch he dispatched all the other Monarchs easily. He basically almost one-shot the weaker ones. And he went to hunt them one on one in their specific worlds, and for some reason the Dragon Monarch decided to wait for it. The power-ranking would go (imo): 1. Sung Jin-Woo (EoS) Even the seven Rulers were afraid of him going ragainst after accumulating the power of all the Monarch's armies. Now busy fighting extra-universal threats with his son. 2. [Absolute] Creator of the setting. Needed the combined effort of seven messengers and their armies to be defeated. And possibly some PIS since he had artifacts capable of time-rewind. 3. Monarch of Destruction Could easily kill other Monarchs. Even Sung Jin-Woo with all the power of the Shadow Monarch could die from a bad hit of the Monarch of the Destruction. And the Shadow Monarch was afraid of angering him. 4. Sung Jin-Woo (final Battle)/Shadow Monarch/Leader of the Rulers (?) The Shadow Monarch was the one who brought a new balance to the war. Could compete with the Monarch of Destruction for a time by accumulating the death energy from the Earth. 5. Ashborn (pre-death as a Messenger)/Messengers with the tools of the Absolute (Rulers) Ashborn was said to be the strongest of the Messengers. The Messengers with the tools of the Absolute were able to almost win the war until the Shadow Monarch was born. 6. Other Monarchs/Messengers without the tools (with the Demon Monarch being the weakest) Not sure about the rankings here. We only know that the Demon Monarch was the weakest, to the point that even Jin-Woo could kill him before even reaching level 100. |} |
The calc itself..?The Foolish Omniscient Guy said:
