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Godzilla possibly Upgrade!

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Godzilla Ultima Upgrades

I think the following warrantes an upgrade to Godzilla Ultima. The upgrade is to Multiverse level

In short the explanation is this one:

Archetype​


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Archetype is a molecule from a higher dimensional plane of existence. This allows time and space bending properties that flat out break laws of physics of our universe.

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Archetype is shown to trap light and energy in itself, all the wile increasing the energy trapped till exploding. This is stated done by pulling photons of the future into the present.
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Archetype is stated able to bend time, space, and laws of physics.
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Archetype in large amounts make unidentifiable bio matter whose presence alone bend space, and alter bio organic matter in vicinity.
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Godzilla is a singularity that can destroy the universe.
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Archetype and Godzilla as a singularity shows the future and all possible futures lead to the end of the universe abruptly. Where the future ceases to exist.
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Archetype pouring into our planet again stated would alter the earth in such a way to resemble hell, and then flat out deny existence to the universe.
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The Archetype leading to the end of our universe is describe more due to time paradox were time is re written and everything after does not exist.

Godzilla's "True Form"

In consequence, Ultima would get a True Form key due to his true self being the responsible for the stuff.


All duly supported in this blog of mine. It explains at detail how Godzilla works as a singularity and what he can do with the Red Dust and the Archetype.


Thoughts?
 
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From what I gathered at a glance (at work rn, can look deeper into it tomorrow), this seems like chain reaction, no?
 
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I agree with disease manip and agree that there's the 3-A evidence statement but I'm not sure about it actually fitting in low 2-C outside of just time and physics manipulation (haven't read blog yet as of this reply)
 

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I obviously agree with Disease Manip, but i'm gonna stay neutral on Low 2-C for a while, but from what i understand from the blog it looks ok
 
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Before continue I should note that is absolutely necessary people here to read my blog, that I linked in the OP. It explains at detail how Godzilla works as a singularity and what he can do with the Red Dust and the Archetype.

Take your time to read it before continue.
 
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Before continue I should note that is absolutely necessary people here to read my blog, that I linked in the OP. It explains at detail how Godzilla works as a singularity and what he can do with the Red Dust and the Archetype.

Take your time to read it before continue.
Time wouldn’t let me before but it looks pretty good
 
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Why Eviromental destruction?
Because he wasn't going to destroy the universr with his atomic breath or sth, it was not 100% clear how he would do it. Do be low 2-C+ in normal form you'd need to attack people with that potency everytime but Godzilla only uses his abilities to pull a Pucci and destroy everything which means that it scales to low 2-C via environmental destruction
 

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This Godzilla definitely should have Type 9 Immortality, he is literally treated as a mere shadow of something far, far greater.
 
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Because he wasn't going to destroy the universr with his atomic breath or sth, it was not 100% clear how he would do it. Do be low 2-C+ in normal form you'd need to attack people with that potency everytime but Godzilla only uses his abilities to pull a Pucci and destroy everything which means that it scales to low 2-C via environmental destruction
If you payed attention to my blog the answer is there... :V

Ultima is gonna destroy the universe by generating singular points that will fight and collide between them reseting the universe
 

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In consequence, Ultima would get a True Form key due to his true self being the responsible for the stuff. Ultima's physical stats def shouldn't be Low 2-C.
 
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Also after revising my blog it turns out each singular point colliding is actually a timeline, soo maybe Ultima's True Form should be Tier 2-B instead of Low 2-C

Here were mentioned a million universes...

 
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Idk man, he was going to collapse the universe not the timelines. Where's the scan that says he'll nuke the timelines?
 
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Could you just send it here? There's like a thousands of scans in the blog and a bunch there
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Well, everything above hinges on the first Singular Point we see, red dust. As a form of Archetype, it is constantly sending information to itself back to a single point in time. Much like how SHIVA (a computer based on Archetype) overloaded when calculating the future, all of this future-information sharing one point in space and time is having multiple timelines crash into each other. The multiverse is overloading, beckoning creatures made of Archetype from another world to this one.

Our heroes prevent the Catastrophe by creating their own Singular Point in Jet Jaguar. As the amalgamation of multiple timelines stretching back 50 years, it "cuts off" all timelines where the Catastrophe happens by rendering all red dust inert at a single point in time.
 
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I feel like we need more scans. Like where exactly is it stated that the archetype causes timelines to crash into each other?
 
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I feel like we need more scans. Like where exactly is it stated that the archetype causes timelines to crash into each other?
Eh?

The scan I showed you is pretty clear by showing the multiple timelines and their amalgamation into one single timeline.
 
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Eh?

The scan I showed you is pretty clear by showing the multiple timelines and their amalgamation into one single timeline.
yes but what is the evidence that godzilla did it?
Because i am pretty sure that he did do it but i want you to provide the necessary evidence and scans so people don't try and attack us over it.
 
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yes but what is the evidence that godzilla did it?
Because i am pretty sure that he did do it but i want you to provide the necessary evidence and scans so people don't try and attack us over it.
Unfortunately I can't provide more scans..... I'm using a really old PC and I can't take scans there. My original PC was damaged on a storm that almost destroyed my home weeks ago.

Soo basically I was very lucky to have made my blog months ago, also I have tried link streaming sites where you can watch the episodes but this forum doesn't allow me paste the link.
 

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Also I'm surprised Godzilla hasn't got resistance to fate manipulation due to him being a Singular Point i.e. paradoxal existence.
 
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Maybe he also has resistance to Law manipulation as explained here?

 
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yes but what is the evidence that godzilla did it?
Because i am pretty sure that he did do it but i want you to provide the necessary evidence and scans so people don't try and attack us over it.
Here Yun Arikawa says "The Catastrophe is starting"



And he is referring to the Red Dust/Archetype cloud produced by Godzilla. Which means this all started due to Godzilla..

Here it is stated Godzilla is the ONE who is gonna destroy the universe with the Catastrophe

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Maybe he also has resistance to Law manipulation as explained here?

Yes, he should have this.
 

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I'll search it later, but it is basically BB explaining the forms of the Archetype and saying that what we see is shadow of its true form.
 
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Also I'm surprised Godzilla hasn't got resistance to fate manipulation due to him being a Singular Point i.e. paradoxal existence.
This scan proves this point of yours?

I'll search it later, but it is basically BB explaining the forms of the Archetype and saying that what we see is shadow of its true form.
Ok thanks
 

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Transtemporal means it transcends time so probably? But there is also a scene where Mei and some others try to foresee every possible outcome for Godzilla Ultima's defeat, and all they see is Godzilla winning/continuing alive no matter how different their movement is. This, is due to his paradoxal existence, a ontological paradox proposes that certain events and objects are not created in time and space, but they are constant eternals.
 
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Transtemporal means it transcends time so probably? But there is also a scene where Mei and some others try to foresee every possible outcome for Godzilla Ultima's defeat, and all they see is Godzilla winning/continuing alive no matter how different their movement is. This, is due to his paradoxal existence, a ontological paradox proposes that certain events and objects are not created in time and space, but they are constant eternals.
I would really, really appreciate if you can also get scans for this.

Also the shadow thing you mentioned is in Episode 8
 
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Here Yun Arikawa says "The Catastrophe is starting"



And he is referring to the Red Dust/Archetype cloud produced by Godzilla. Which means this all started due to Godzilla..

Here it is stated Godzilla is the ONE who is gonna destroy the universe with the Catastrophe

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I already showed Arceux the scans he was asking for though

hmm, alright sure. seems fine (y)
 
I think the following warrantes Disease manipulation to Godzilla Ultima:

Archetype aka Red Dust is also stated and shown to be outright toxic to living beings of our dimension, causing breathing issues, and eventual death.

And the second upgrade is a BIG one to Universe level+

All duly supported in this blog of mine.

Before continue I should note that is absolutely necessary people here to read my blog. It explains at detail how Godzilla works as a singularity and what he can do with the Red Dust and the Archetype.

Take your time to read it before continue.

But in short the explanation is that:

Archetype​


No Caption Provided
Archetype is a molecule from a higher dimensional plane of existence. This allows time and space bending properties that flat out break laws of physics of our universe.

No Caption Provided No Caption Provided
Archetype is shown to trap light and energy in itself, all the wile increasing the energy trapped till exploding. This is stated done by pulling photons of the future into the present.
No Caption Provided
Archetype is stated able to bend time, space, and laws of physics.
No Caption Provided No Caption Provided
Archetype in large amounts make unidentifiable bio matter whose presence alone bend space, and alter bio organic matter in vicinity.
No Caption Provided
Godzilla is a singularity that can destroy the universe.
No Caption Provided
Archetype and Godzilla as a singularity shows the future and all possible futures lead to the end of the universe abruptly. Where the future ceases to exist.
No Caption Provided
Archetype pouring into our planet again stated would alter the earth in such a way to resemble hell, and then flat out deny existence to the universe.
No Caption Provided
The Archetype leading to the end of our universe is describe more due to time paradox were time is re written and everything after does not exist.


Thoughts?
I love it!
 
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There's no evidence that godzilla had a form beyond that though
You need to read my blog... seriously like you're definitely ignoring a lot of stuff and all that info is already on my blog.

Godzilla and all the kaiju in Singular Point come from a 4th Dimensional space. BB on episode 8 explained the users of the Archetype aka the monsters are merely a shadow of their true selves that reside on Higher-Dimensional space.
 
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Thanks for these scans, I'm gonna add them to the blog and give you the respective credit for them.

So this warrantes Resistance to Fate Manipulation, Large Size Type 8 and confirms again he has a "True Form" that scales to merging three billion universes/timelines..
 

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It would also get both Resistance to Time Manipulation (Described as an transtemporal phenomenon) and Time Manipulation (Would rewrite the history of the universe), both are in Apex's blogs.
 
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I clearly wrote Resistance to Fate Manipulation..

Certanly you need to be very careful when reading the stuff ZeedKZ and me posted here.
i don't care i am wondering where did any relation to fate come from? Fate is a more spiritual, non mathematical thing, Godzilla would simply resist clairvoyance. Maybe have some form of acausality.
 

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It is not clairvoyance since all of the outcomes were successfully viewed, however they cannot change the outcome, as I said before like, 3 times. The whole Godzilla's plot is being a ontological paradox which inherently gives him resistance to fate abilities just like Decade.
 

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There are multiple types of paradoxes, what belongs to Godzilla is linked to him being him, it doesn't stop them to see what is going to happen, his fate cannot be normally changed because he is always destinated to be that. He is like 6=9, his own existence twists fate and turns it into a sealed tape.
 

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I believe Acausality Type 4 for his true form, he is treated as an entity who is unbound by our very laws of the universe, when we speak about cause and effect, we speak about purity grades, only beings of the highest order (i.e. transcendent beings) exist outside it completely.
 
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In the page it says that Acausality Type 4 gives resistance to Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation and Precognition
 

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He does not resists precognition since the characters successfully view 3 billions of outcomes, however fate and causality manipulation is something that he resists.
 

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Godzilla's true form should also have a form of Abstract Existence, when they talk about mythical creatures, most of these creatures are hypothetical, abstract (Ashihara studied abstract algebra to understand the Singular Point), they live in people's imaginations, but hypothetically it means that they cannot be refuted by the falsifiability principle.

Let's take a example, we're discussing the creation of the universe. X says that the Big Bang created the universe, and Y says that it was God.

You cannot use science to refute God because science starts by the falsifiability principle and it cannot refute God while a metaphysical existence, can discuss the physical implications of God, but never God's metaphysics.
 
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Godzilla's true form should also have a form of Abstract Existence, when they talk about mythical creatures, most of these creatures are hypothetical, abstract (Ashihara studied abstract algebra to understand the Singular Point), they live in people's imaginations, but hypothetically it means that they cannot be refuted by the falsifiability principle.
Oof this Godzilla is really gonna end very broken 😀
 
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Godzilla's true form should also have a form of Abstract Existence, when they talk about mythical creatures, most of these creatures are hypothetical, abstract (Ashihara studied abstract algebra to understand the Singular Point), they live in people's imaginations, but hypothetically it means that they cannot be refuted by the falsifiability principle.
I've applied the changes but I think your english is way better than mine so maybe you wanna correct minor things?

 

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Keep in mind that immortality type 9 and resistance to fate applies to Godzilla's physical manifestation.
 

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HDE should also be removed from Godzilla Aquatilis-Ultima keys and be transfered to True Form key since he is the higher dimensional self of Godzilla.
 
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I've been thinking. Why is this called Godzilla Ultima? That is the name of his last form, it's like if we called Godzilla (Heisei) Burning Godzilla instead of the way it is.

The page should be renamed to Godzilla (Singular Point)
 
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I've been thinking. Why is this called Godzilla Ultima? That is the name of his last form, it's like if we called Godzilla (Heisei) Burning Godzilla instead of the way it is.

The page should be renamed to Godzilla (Singular Point)
When I made the profile I thought his name was Godzilla Ultima... like Shin Godzilla or Godzilla Earth. XD

But you can request this in the all purpose request thread.
 
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