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LuffyRuffy46307
If you have some time, could you look at this?

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Dimension Of Whirling Lights Remake

The dimension of strange swirling lights is a location that was accidentally accessed by Gogeta and Broly during their battle. The official Dragon Ball Super website showed us that this dimension consists of the following information https://dragonball.news/news/dbmfl28.html I want you to do...
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LuffyRuffy46307
Could you help me with this crt?
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Dimension Of Whirling Lights Remake

The dimension of strange swirling lights is a location that was accidentally accessed by Gogeta and Broly during their battle. The official Dragon Ball Super website showed us that this dimension consists of the following information https://dragonball.news/news/dbmfl28.html I want you to do...
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Phsccarvalho
Hello, when you have time, could you check this crt?
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Woody Woodpecker - Abilities that were left for later.

Hello Introduction This crt is a small continuation of this other crt. In short, two skills from that crt were controversial and had mixed votes, either disagreeing or saying that x skill would make more sense if it were y. So I'm creating this crt focusing on these two skills. In addition to...
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Phsccarvalho
Hello, when you can, could you check this crt?
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Woody Woodpecker - Abilities that were left for later.

Hello Introduction This crt is a small continuation of this other crt. In short, two skills from that crt were controversial and had mixed votes, either disagreeing or saying that x skill would make more sense if it were y. So I'm creating this crt focusing on these two skills. In addition to...
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Phsccarvalho
Hello planck, you participated in the 5D saiki downgrade crt.

So, you're having to use the crt again to put this back in. Since you participated in the relegation, can you participate in this one?

Take advantage and ping DT if you can, as he was the one who participated most in the downgrade crt.
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If you could give your opinion on this crt too, I would be grateful.
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Woody Woodpecker - Abilities that were left for later.

Hello Introduction This crt is a small continuation of this other crt. In short, two skills from that crt were controversial and had mixed votes, either disagreeing or saying that x skill would make more sense if it were y. So I'm creating this crt focusing on these two skills. In addition to...
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EldemadeDityjon
Can I get your input here. Not a big thread few abilities and profile replacement.
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Nanami, Hanami and Utahime Profile Update

Nanami , Hanami and Utahime Profiles are outdated in wiki so updating them with more explanation and references with scans. Current Nanami Profile in wiki Updated Sandbox for Nanami Profile Current Hanami Profile in wiki Updated Sandbox for Hanami Profile Current Utahime Profile in wiki...
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EldemadeDityjon
Can I get your input here. Appreciated 🙏
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Nanami, Hanami and Utahime Profile Update

Nanami , Hanami and Utahime Profiles are outdated in wiki so updating them with more explanation and references with scans. Current Nanami Profile in wiki Updated Sandbox for Nanami Profile Current Hanami Profile in wiki Updated Sandbox for Hanami Profile Current Utahime Profile in wiki...
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Robo432343
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Devil May Cry - About PoC

so as many of know, Peak of combat content was removed from DMC profiles a while ago due PoC 2.0 being announced. since then alot of developments happened and to wrap everything in a single thread would be very chaotic & bad considering the amount arguments & discussions it would bring. so i...
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Robo432343
Robo432343
do you think the content in poc can still be used in vs profiles?
there is some controversial non canon, canon stuff going on in that thread
thought you might be an expert regarding stuff like that
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
I wouldn't consider myself an expert on anything and I don't know what PoC is unless you mean People of Color.
Robo432343
Robo432343
no i mean peak of combat in devil may cry 😭
but you don't need to be knowledgeable on the verse to evaluate the thread
TiltedFN
Hello Planck, sorry to bother you, but I have a question, about time dimensions. So do overarching timelines or lesser time dimensions automatically grant low 1-C? Like if a dimensions isn't low 2-C but has its own time dimension, and there is another overarching timeline, would that be low 1-C?
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Planck69
Planck69
Nothing is granted automatically, it depends on context.
TiltedFN
TiltedFN
Well yeah, but I mean like if overarching timelines grant low 1-C if they overarch a lesser time dimension, does that lesser time dimension have to be low 2-C, or just have its own time dimension in general. Because it would be 4D, but just not significant to be tiered low 2-C, would that overarching timeline not have uncountably infinite snapshots resulting in low 1-C? Just kind of confused here.
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Devil May Cry - About PoC

so as many of know, Peak of combat content was removed from DMC profiles a while ago due PoC 2.0 being announced. since then alot of developments happened and to wrap everything in a single thread would be very chaotic & bad considering the amount arguments & discussions it would bring. so i...
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ProfectusInfinity
Quick question: can a CRT be accepted from 3 staff agrees, 1 neutral, and 1 disagree?
Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
If it comes to an impass it can. Though the three staff agreements probably should be reissued after whatever debate happened is finished.
Robo432343
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Arale vs Oryx

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arale_Norimaki_(Dr._Slump) vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Oryx,_the_Taken_King Both 2-C SBA Otherwise Speed =
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Phsccarvalho
You know those two controversial Woody abilities? I did the crt.

Could you call the staff members who voted for these two skills (and replacements) in the other crt to confirm their votes?

Also vote if you can, I would be grateful.
MeiouHades
Hi, could you glance at the following DBZ CRT briefly? The feats have all been accepted, we are just going over the scaling now and need moderator approval before applying anything:

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Huge DBZ Toei Upgrade Part 2 - The Meta, Shifted

As a follow up to this thread, which received unanimous agreement from staff and layman alike, I decided to revise the AP blog using many new statements and lines of scaling. The key changes are as follows: Saiyan and Namek Sagas get huge multiplier changes and backscaling due to several...
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MeiouHades
Hi, can you glance briefly at the following DBZ CRT? The feats have already been accepted, we are just going over the scaling now and need staff input before applying:

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Huge DBZ Toei Upgrade Part 2 - The Meta, Shifted

As a follow up to this thread, which received unanimous agreement from staff and layman alike, I decided to revise the AP blog using many new statements and lines of scaling. The key changes are as follows: Saiyan and Namek Sagas get huge multiplier changes and backscaling due to several...
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XxZetsuxX
Hi friend, I would like to invite you to this thread i made;

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Bungou Stray Dogs - Abilities, Fixing and Cosmology CRT

I would like to thank @RoggerReggor (For giving scans and also revising everything) and @Zefra3011 (For also helping with the revision) Osamu Dazai; Dazai key; 9-B, Far higher with Preparation, 2-A with "The book" Master Hand to Hand Combatent- (Did Spartan training alongside his...
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XxZetsuxX
Hi friend, I would like to invite you to this thread i made;

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Bungou Stray Dogs - Abilities, Fixing and Cosmology CRT

I would like to thank @RoggerReggor (For giving scans and also revising everything) and @Zefra3011 (For also helping with the revision) Osamu Dazai; Dazai key; 9-B, Far higher with Preparation, 2-A with "The book" Master Hand to Hand Combatent- (Did Spartan training alongside his...
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bump
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XxZetsuxX
I'm very sorry for troubling you but we need just 1 more vote :cry:
XxZetsuxX
Hi friend, I would like to invite you to this thread i made;

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Bungou Stray Dogs - Abilities, Fixing and Cosmology CRT

I would like to thank @RoggerReggor (For giving scans and also revising everything) and @Zefra3011 (For also helping with the revision) Osamu Dazai; Dazai key; 9-B, Far higher with Preparation, 2-A with "The book" Master Hand to Hand Combatent- (Did Spartan training alongside his...
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Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation

Also, we got stuff like Doctor Doom and Scarlet Witch resisting the mind hax of the Darkhold, which has Low 1-A potency due to its power "permeating in all realities", with each reality in Marvel being Low 1-A. Doom also resisted the madness hax of Chthon, who is High 1-A. we also have stuff...
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Figured you'd like to see this.
Dust_Collector
Dust_Collector
huh, surprised Odin wasn't brought up sooner for 3-C considering Mario and Spongebob are on there lol
First_Witch
Hey ho, I remember you having a interest in the fields of combat skill, you wrote a Blog about right? Well I also took a stab at it and wrote one and wanted to hear your opinion, if you have the time obviously. Its a rough draft and im not even sure if I will ever finish it, considering that i dont have the abilities necessary to write a proper information blog. But I also dont want it to rot in one of my many sandboxes.

See post below for link, forum bad
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EliminatorVenom
EliminatorVenom
Hey! Yes, I did write one a loooong time ago, and I'd love to check yours!

Gimme a second-
EliminatorVenom
EliminatorVenom
Sorry for the long time to answer.

An in-depth answer of mine and my thoughts on the analysis would take a very, very long time and an equally large answer, so I will try to be as succinct as possible.

On the topics and aspects of skill taken into account, I agree on the topics and on the sections it was analysed in, and therefore, on the applications skill could and does have in battle through the different powers that may be expressed therein. I particularly like the Senses part as that is the easiest example of superhuman skill being doable. Giving a very basic example, Tex Willer is a character that has very acute, if not outright superhuman vision and he can see precisely even people who are very far away, and using that, combined with his incredibly steady hand and sheer experience and subconscious calculations in the usage of a rifle, he managed to land a headshot with a rifle despite being at more than twice the rifle's maximum effective range, and rather quickly at that. I'd add intellect on that section, as sufficient intellect can translate into skill as well, either the actively thought about kind and the more instinctual one. Tex is an instinctual example, and giving an active intellectual kind being used as skill, consider the Vindicare Assassin from 40K. If I am not mistaken, there is one tale in the lore about a Vindicare tasked to eliminate a target on the moon of a planet he was on. His gun could reach said target, but even its super-advanced optics could not really find their target. However, the Vindicare had access of their exact coordinates on the moon, and using that info, and meticulously calculating all variables and possibilities, they made a shot that managed to hit and kill their target.

Now, onto the quantification of skill. Here, I am in slight disagreement with you. I do appreciate the quantification, and it isn't an entirely inapplicable concept, but it is something that needs to be done incredibly carefully. Skill is so very incredibly subjective in an infinitely fractal way that it really is impossible to quantify it aside from very general terms or when the difference is very blatant. Even something like Analytical Prediction can be very subjective. A real life, personal example of this is something I have noticed through my life practicing martial arts, and in my case, boxing. Even the less skill-oriented boxers I trained with could somewhat consistently predict punches as long as they were in a calm situation. However, the same was not true with kicks, pushes or even clinching - so there we have decently good Analytical Prediction, but mostly limited to punches, to the point that they could get the wrong tells from attempting to predict a kick at the times I saw myself and some colleagues friendly sparring with some Muay Thai practitioners. This is a very simple example, but I could go far, far beyond in complexity and in situations.

I also must point out a certain disagreement with the Limitations category. Skill is absolutely tied to powers as well, and the correct usage of powers and the appropriate reaction to them is fundamentally a part of skill, even if sometimes it is verse-specific, and commonly cross-related to other forms of skill. Avatar: the Last Airbender is a good example of simple, elemental powers being wielded skillfully, tied with skill in martial arts and acrobatics in a very explicit way. In fact, Superhuman Skill is a conceivable ability given inhuman levels of the same abilities described in your post, or with even minimal additions. One with Energy Manipulation, even if restricted to just manipulating how energy spreads from their own blows, can potentially grow into practically Durability Negation with sufficient precision if they concentrate all energy on the fractally small point of space at the tip of their blow, and even a Wall level strike that has all their energy concentrated on that infinitely small point can cleave through far greater levels of durability. Just to be clear, I am not saying that such cases are always due to sheer skill instead of some misinterpretation of the author - but even said feat, unless explicitly made easy by verse-specific mechanics, is a very remarkable level of skill in self-control, energy manipulation and, most importantly, precision.

Lastly, I really enjoyed the section about the false friends of skill and the way you tackled the issue. The rationale you expanded upon in that section is something I wish way more people read and thought about.
First_Witch
First_Witch
Heyo, thanks for your reply.

Intellect is basically on it the list under combat related Knowledge.

It is true that Quantification AND Qualification of Skill is a hard endeavor, but it is important to remember that we are talking about fictional skill here;

A real life, personal example of this is something I have noticed through my life practicing martial arts, and in my case, boxing. Even the less skill-oriented boxers I trained with could somewhat consistently predict punches as long as they were in a calm situation. However, the same was not true with kicks, pushes or even clinching - so there we have decently good Analytical Prediction, but mostly limited to punches, to the point that they could get the wrong tells from attempting to predict a kick at the times I saw myself and some colleagues friendly sparring with some Muay Thai practitioners. This is a very simple example, but I could go far, far beyond in complexity and in situations.
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While this is perfectly true, in fiction, you don't assume such a weakness for fictional characters until it was stated as such. The same way we dont take into account fire manipulators to randomly have days or situation in which they dont have access to their fire abilitites if such a weakness wasnt stated.

So if we take a boxing series for example, if the tells which they use to predict incoming attacks are generic, such as gaze, muscle movement and more, there would be no reason to assume their analytical prediction stops working just because kicks are involved. Obviously, if the series gives its Analytical Prediction such a weakness, it should be taken into account.

So I personally think that the basic assumption should be that skill ability A should work until reasons to believe that it wont are givin. Under such assumptions, quantifications become a bit easier. Determining exact quantities and qualities are obviously impossible. You are right in that skill can technically be broken down to infinite edges and corners. But I believe rough estimation are enough to fulfil the basic idea behind a Skill debate; Whose more skilled between character A and B. If you take the variable X and Y respectivly, standing for the skill level of 2 characters, it would suffice to find out which of the variables is bigger. Even if knowing the exact number would solve this debate instantly, that is thankfully not required. The biggest hurdle is obviously comparing the abilities, but thats what debating is for ultimately.

I also must point out a certain disagreement with the Limitations category. Skill is absolutely tied to powers as well, and the correct usage of powers and the appropriate reaction to them is fundamentally a part of skill, even if sometimes it is verse-specific, and commonly cross-related to other forms of skill. Avatar: the Last Airbender is a good example of simple, elemental powers being wielded skillfully, tied with skill in martial arts and acrobatics in a very explicit way. In fact, Superhuman Skill is a conceivable ability given inhuman levels of the same abilities described in your post, or with even minimal additions. One with Energy Manipulation, even if restricted to just manipulating how energy spreads from their own blows, can potentially grow into practically Durability Negation with sufficient precision if they concentrate all energy on the fractally small point of space at the tip of their blow, and even a Wall level strike that has all their energy concentrated on that infinitely small point can cleave through far greater levels of durability. Just to be clear, I am not saying that such cases are always due to sheer skill instead of some misinterpretation of the author - but even said feat, unless explicitly made easy by verse-specific mechanics, is a very remarkable level of skill in self-control, energy manipulation and, most importantly, precision.
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An excellent point, but I have to rebuke this one as well. The problem with not viewing skill feats under the stated limitations is the issue of unquantifiability; Taking Analytical Prediction as example again, the reason why I believe AnaPre is both quantifiable and qualitfiable is precisly because the ability finds its roots in real life. You can reduce the ability to its lowest possible showing and start stacking up quantities and qualities onto that so long a logical link exist;

So for example, we assume the lowest and most basic showcase of AnaPre is being able to predict a offensive move is incoming. Not wether or not its a punch, a kick or a aggresiv repositioning, just that the next move is offensive in nature. You can upscale the quantity of that by saying "The next level would be able to predict the next 2 moves". At a certain level, it is basically impossible to claim a higher quantity in real life, but not in fiction. And we know that this is a upscale in skill because we have the connection in reallife. Fiction can reach those levels because its logic doesnt correlate with that of reallife. The same goes for Quality.

So the reason i put such huge emphasize on the laws of physics and biomechanics is because it helps us ground a ability withhin the confines of skill. I dont necessarily believe that a feat that does not follow those laws are strictly nonskill, I just reject the notion that they are more impressive. Worse, I find them unquantifiable, because you dont know how much exact mastery over a given foundational aspect of skill it requires. How much blade mastery is required to cut space and time apart with skill? A ton? Not more than real material? None? Whereas the hard limit of existing material being cut apart, discounting pontential strength arguments, is known and logically scaleable.

The issue hereby dosnt lie in "Is this skill", but rather in "how much skill".
LuffyRuffy46307
Could you come in, we're discussing Chucky's new abilities?
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Child's Play/Chucky Discussion Thread (Potential Spoilers)

So, this discussion thread is about the franchise regarding a certain serial killer inside the body of a red-haired doll with quite a foul mouth. Considering that a television series has been around for few years now, I think it's a perfect time to gather people here to join the Cult of Chucky...
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Faa_Tzy
Hi byasura. Could you please give your opinion on this NNT thread? I think you are the only active staff with experience about NNT.
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Grimgor Ironhide

Grimgor Ironhide, renowned by his kind as the Green Slaughterer,[1] Gork’s Fist,[1] Da Alpha Orc,[1] the Once and Future Git[1] and the Boss of the East,[1] is considered by many to be one of the greatest Black Orc Warlords to have ever lived. This monstrous warrior has culled a great swath of...
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DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Unless it's like, Lord Kroak, most are actually

For Fantasy anyway.

Most profiles are missing an Age of Sigmar key, but overall for profiles like say Archaon or Thorgrim they're up to date.
Phoenks
Phoenks
What the ****?????? How? Who is READING all of that? It's not you, is it?

I was actually discussing RPGs with a friend the other day, and he brought up Warhammer being one of the longest, most elaborate verses ever.

I asked him if he thought our VSBW profiles were up to date on it and he was like "there's no way." And after seeing the list of novels, I couldn't believe that either.

Well, anyway...

Any other cool characters from Warhammer that you would debate for?
DaReaperMan
DaReaperMan
Not very much releases that has some named character or another in it, so it's actually pretty easy to keep up. And some things have been retconned so there's that
Characters I Can personally debate
Grimgor Ironhide
Thorgrim Grudgebearer
Ungrim Ironfist0
Chakax
Balkrag Grimgorson(no that name is not a joke I wish it was)
Settra the Imperishable, Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds
Nagash
Wulfrik the Wanderer
Count Mordrek the Damned
Morghur

Characters I Can generally debate on the basic level but will ask questions to people more knowledgeable
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Literally every other character.

Notable ones are Balthasar Gelt, Archaon, and Felix Jaeger
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