Eminiteable
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Smoker & Law both have more potent haki than this Sanji + in this key they are more skilled than Sanji due to the fact they can utilize koka. Vergo's buso is definitively above Smoker & Pre-690 Law's buso.
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Vice Admiral Vergo vs Demon of the Blue Sea Sanji
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2x, the one he took with Tekkai
You act like it's Kaidou and ******* Buggy
Sanji NEVER had the upper hand in their fight
Now you lying your ass off
SANJI SAID THAT IF HE KEPT GOING HE WOULD'VE LOST
Like why are you lying right now.
Oh okay, so you clearly are just ignorant on how the wiki you're arguing on does things
Like you're proudly ignorant and it's hilariously infuriating
Haki
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We accept that it's invisible
Then the later part
Like you're actually an idiot cause of that
Like you didn't have the braincells to read the ******* wiki page for Haki that we already accept invisible haki and you act like i'm pulling it out my ass. You're a goofball.
He blitzed the dude (Law) who kept up with the dude (Smoker) who kept up with him regularly.
Like please read the pages
He no sold his strongest kick that utilizes dura neg with minimal blood
Like grow the **** up.
Beating Sanji's ass with his bamboo haki stick until he dies
Who the **** said that Vergo's haki is better because he can do fullbody???
Vergo's haki is better because everyone on the ******* island hyped up his Haki, with the databook saying he has "super armament haki"
Like stfu and read the arguments and stop making up your own you buffoon
We have an entire CRT hyping up Vergo's haki
Like you just pissed me off with this bold stupidity you showcased
My vote is Vergo, that's final
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**** that 2x DJ bs gimme a second
Eminiteable
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I'll say this about the AP of diable Jambe: Smoker w/buso was able to deal relative damage to Vergo that the DJ strikes dealt without the durability negating properties of it, so overall I don't think the AP of D.J is that significant here.
DaMonkeMan
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" When the debate is lost, Slander becomes the tool of the loser. " - Socrates.2x, the one he took with Tekkai
You act like it's Kaidou and ******* Buggy
Sanji NEVER had the upper hand in their fight
Now you lying your ass off
SANJI SAID THAT IF HE KEPT GOING HE WOULD'VE LOST
Like why are you lying right now.
Oh okay, so you clearly are just ignorant on how the wiki you're arguing on does things
Like you're proudly ignorant and it's hilariously infuriating
Haki
We accept that it's invisible
Then the later part
Like you're actually an idiot cause of that
Like you didn't have the braincells to read the ******* wiki page for Haki that we already accept invisible haki and you act like i'm pulling it out my ass. You're a goofball.
He blitzed the dude (Law) who kept up with the dude (Smoker) who kept up with him regularly.
Like please read the pages
He no sold his strongest kick that utilizes dura neg with minimal blood
Like grow the **** up.
Beating Sanji's ass with his bamboo haki stick until he dies
Who the **** said that Vergo's haki is better because he can do fullbody???
Vergo's haki is better because everyone on the ******* island hyped up his Haki, with the databook saying he has "super armament haki"
Like stfu and read the arguments and stop making up your own you buffoon
We have an entire CRT hyping up Vergo's haki
Like you just pissed me off with this bold stupidity you showcased
My vote is Vergo, that's final
You're not providing points, you're just trying to take a verbal dump on me because I disagree with something that is admittedly nonsensical.
Acting like the Wiki's words are gospel written in golden ink, ever thought that you can be proven wrong on some things?
But never mind the attempted shit slinging contest, back to the topic at hand.
Sanj's leg was already hurt from Nami using his body. I've said that so many times before, but I guess it's going in one ear and straight out the other, like a ******* bullet.
Mind you, despite Sanji being slightly injured, he was still actively hurting Vergo and seemed to have gave him a headache because as I said before, he kicked his head and he started bleeding and held his head.
And even if Vergo has better Haki, Sanji will still hurt him. It's stupid to think that having slightly better Haki will make him some god who can instantly tank attacks that could injure him, because said attacks also didn't have Haki in them.
Tell me when you're done making the CRT that will ultimately not matter because DJ Sanji still hurt Vergo lol.
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We're on the ******* wiki arguing with the wiki's profiles and the wiki's logic
Please be quiet
He kicked him off guard with a dura negation burning attack
Prove his leg was hurt to the point where it had literally any effect on the fight that took place a very long ass period of time later
Vergo does not have slightly better haki. He has like 2 or 3 more layers above him.
"Still hurt Vergo" oh brother
You sanji mfs are insane
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@TheMonkeMan
King tempest didn't do any slander, so that insult by using an unnecessary quote was not called for.
Cool it.
King tempest didn't do any slander, so that insult by using an unnecessary quote was not called for.
Cool it.
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It wasn't an insult, it's literally what's happening. He openly said I didn't have braincells and called me an idiot because I tried to object something from the Wiki.
If I'm going to get insulted and clowned for questioning something then I'm just not gonna be in the argument. Y'all have been doing this to me constantly and it's really ******* immature, please just stop and try to ACTUALLY PROVIDE ARGUMENTS instead of repeating the same things and then flaming me for disagreeing.
I'm done with this thread, I know if I keep it up I'll get banned or somn.
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Nah I def slandered that man when I called em an idiot
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Off guard based on? Vergo was quite literally staring at Sanji before he kicked him.
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I missed that "idiot" part somehow, and that was definitely unneeded, King.
I've said way dumber scaling stuff than what Monke's said, there was no need for insults.
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You know you can be off guard while looking at something right?
Like... it happens all the time, with blitzes and just being dazed or not preparing
Eseseso if you're on the wiki and you say "the wiki can be wrong" as a counter to "follow the wiki's policies" imma call you an idiot with all due respect
DaMonkeMan
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One last thing, I'm not a Sanji fan. Kachon knows this very well, and I even said Sabo could beat Post Wano Sanji, which he no doubt found very stupid but I still believe it anyway.
But we can still agree that Sanji beats Vergo, I wouldn't slander Sanji that badly, the dude's still high YC2/bottom YC1 level.
Speaking of him, I apologize Kachon, but I'm just going to take my leave here. I'm sure you're capable of providing your own arguments from here on.
This got way too heated. You can keep my vote though.
But we can still agree that Sanji beats Vergo, I wouldn't slander Sanji that badly, the dude's still high YC2/bottom YC1 level.
Speaking of him, I apologize Kachon, but I'm just going to take my leave here. I'm sure you're capable of providing your own arguments from here on.
This got way too heated. You can keep my vote though.
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So whats your proof that Vergo was off guard? Or are you just going to claim something that would need substantial proof (which Vergo being off guard doesn't btw) to try to downplay Sanji?
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We can literally watch Vergo not even noticing that he was there and when he noticed Sanji was already dashing towards him with fire on his feet
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He was staring straight at him before Sanji was even in attack range, and according to your brainless CRT, Vergo isn't slower than Sanji, so there's no reason he should be off guard.
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When did relative speed mean that you're not off guard?
And aren't you the one screaming he used DJ? Which is faster than base? Which scales to Vergo?
DJ hit an offguard Vergo. Like what are you arguing.
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No?
You still have no proof that he was off guard what the hell are you talking about.
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Too bad, he was using Diable Jambe.
He flat out wasn't even prepared to fight him
He flew out of nowhere and kicked him in his face. All because you can see them doesn't mean you're on guard
You act like they were already in combat and he put up a guard or something. He was off guard.
DaMonkeMan
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Okay I gotta atleast address this.
Saying " Vergo was off guard " is really stupid, because Sanji even noted that he tried to use Tekkai, so he was definitely on guard, he just couldn't dodge in time.
Saying " Vergo was off guard " is really stupid, because Sanji even noted that he tried to use Tekkai, so he was definitely on guard, he just couldn't dodge in time.
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That was an entirely different kick
He kicked him off guard, then he kicked him again later and he used Tekkai then
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I don't see Diable Jambe in that scan.
DaMonkeMan
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Except Vergo literally had time to say " Who's this? " so he definitely knew it was coming.
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So not blocking = not being prepared to fight?
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Sorry pal, but even using the anime, he wasn't using Diable Jambe while Sky Walking
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Look at the literal next one right after
And when he got kicked he had exclamation marks noting that he was surprised that he just got kicked in the face after seeing a bunch of dust rise up
He said who's this after all the dust rose, not when he saw Sanji
Did I say that?
I just said he didn't put up a guard and they weren't in combat. Not that "by default, no guard = not prepared to fight". Stop derailing my argument
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LOOK AT THE FIRE IN THE PICTURE
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I don't see fire on his leg.
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Yeah, the scan after. Proof that he was using diable jambe while Sky Walking?
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What the **** does this even add on to the point
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The fact that Vergo wasn't off guard when Sanji kicked him?
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What does Dj being activated have anything to do with him being off guard?
DaMonkeMan
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This is called progression.
We have had 2 genders for quite a long time, and only recently have we had people discovering new ones and deeming themselves as different genders.
Just like that, the Wiki is not perfect, it's obviously gonna have mistakes and people who think they know it all. But sometimes things change. We can find new things.
I'm following the Wiki's policies, but that doesn't mean I can't at least question them.
We literally see him LOOKING AT SANJI. How is this even an argument?
It's clear Sanji wins, just stop lol. This thread is going in circles.
I could have and SHOULD have left this behind, but I'm not gonna leave Kachon with 3 ignorant people who just bandwagon and say "FRA" without actually thinking about the reasons.
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You didn't even question it, you bashed what I said specifically and when I told you to read the wii's points on it you said "so the wiki's words are gospel?"
Do I gotta say "you can be off guard and still look at the person" again?
"3 ignorant ppl" there's 2 votes, me and Eseseso, you just talking
Ok
You, me, and Monke all stfu
People will come in and choose which side they want to vote for
Cause I'm arguing with u 2 hopping off each others' arguments
DaMonkeMan
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I asked why it's even considered a thing because it's stupid. Nobody besides this Wiki even says the "Invisible Armament" thing, it's very likely headcanon.
BS. Vergo had ample time to react.
Eminiteable was here too.
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Vergo for reasons above
