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What is with all this massive Azathoth wank? Yes, he's incredibly strong, but is absolutely, totally dwarfed by The Writer, and so is everyone else here, since they're literally all just fiction. Even characters with "author authority" are nothing because The Writer is LITERALLY The Writer of the story. He would just rewrite the characters and make them not exist, because no matter how strong they are, to The Writer, they're just fiction, and always will be.
 
You guys are still talking about in universe powerscaling. Prove levels of 1-A without using in-universe powerscaling measurements like Taikyoku or specific cosmologies like Cthulhu Mythos / Umineko.
 
No one:

This entire thread:

"MY OUTERVERSAL DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!"


You guys do realise that spouting off vague and obviously lacking in knowledge statements makes you look like total pseudo-intellectuals.

Like, people out here saying X verse is bigger but having no knowledge on the verse they're talking about or not knowing the scaling that puts any of these verses so high, makes you look so dumb, and the leaps in logic people have to do to justify their character being stronger than others like "Azzy is kept asleep therefore TOAA solos all of them by feats" is such pseudo-intellectual nonsense I don't even know where to start besides dropping a fat nuke on this thread.

This is likely why these threads of closed, because it turns into the "My Outerversal dick is bigger."
 
@Udlmaster

Yes, exactly. Not to mention the in universe concepts that make certain characters stronger than others that wouldn't apply to another verse's 1-As.

Like, who's stronger? Al Azif or Marduk? Well information is primary in I/O, so information >>>>> everything else; by that logic Marduk would null everything Al Azif has. But... in Demonbane Chaos is absolute and is the source of everything including information. So in universe Al would null everything Marduk has.

Throw in Masadaverse and you'd have the same issue, just replace chaos or information with taiji and the same issues apply.

The only exceptions are Umineko and Cthulhu Mythos (and arguably TES) because they are more about their complex cosmologies than their absolute power sources. However, a different issue arises when comparing them.
 
Sera EX said:
EmperorRorepme said:
By that logic there are no levels to 1-A. That's debunked by the fact various fictions put levels to 1-A characters.
No they don't. In universe powerscaling does not validate the myth that is "levels of 1-A"
This. I completely agree with this.
 
@Udl I'm pretty sure these guys are joking. Otherwise you'd have to be extremely stupid to believe stuff like that.

@Sera If multiple fictions have levels to 1-A via their own system. They can be equalized to find out who has a higher transcendence. Higher infinities is a thing regardless of the cosmology and mythology of the verse. Like Cthlhu Mythos is undeniably superior to TES.
 
It requires "cosmology equalization", and that's just nasty...
 
I guess Akuto Sai wins then, everything is just a story to him no matter the transcendence this or that or layer this or that. OvO
 
thats a pretty fair point for Sera, however i agree with Emperor when he says that there is a difference as in example cthulhu mythos is superior to TES. however the cosmology equalization is pretty nasty to be fair.
 
Iirc, the difference between two gates in sequence in the CM is the difference between an 11-C and a baseline 1-A, which ultimately doesn't make sense. Once, you are 1-A, you are past caring about dimensions, numbers etc.
 
I wouldn't say it was decent when people are misinformed as hell.

By the way, where would Hajun stand now?
 
I agree a cosmology can be bigger than another but, for example, if a Hadou God was in Cthulhu or TES, they would be even stronger because of those bigger cosmologies. Hadou paints over everything no matter the size.

They are only limited by the amount of space that exists in their verse. They could easily be even higher if they had more space to paint with their laws.

That goes for any Hadou God regardless of their Taiji value, as Taikyoku Value is only an in universe power-scaling tool used to say "this god could beat this god in a fight" but it doesn't exactly mean they're "levels" above or below each other like in Umineko.
 
@Planck69 Extremely high into 1-A, but I don't care enough to really pinpoint "how high" he is.

I'll leave it to the nerds who love debating 1-A.
 
It's basically what makes these verses as high as they are is often down to a special hierarchy based upon a system or force that is above all others in their respective verse.

The problem is, is that these verses don't meld well at all, and even if they did it becomes the same old argument:

"My Outerversal dick is bigger than yours." But no reasons given because people don't actually know how powerful the verses they like are.

Its why even as a joke, these threads become cancerous quickly.

@Emperor Look above, you'll see people unironically talking about "how 1-A beings keep Azzy asleep, so TOAA stomps."
 
a quick question, for verses like masada and the such, in-universe scaling such as taikoyu is being used. however in cthulhu and uminkeo, they have the gates and layer system respectivly. do these previously mentioned systems "make more sense" for relative difference in might?
 
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