Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

[Setsuna_tenma]

The continuation of this previous thread here.

Rules

• Characters only qualify for a tier if they are physically in that tier themselves. Tiers through amps that increases both Attack Potency and Durability also works, and the same applies to tiers via technology.
• Prep Time is only allowed if the character gets its tier via that.
• Speed is equalized by default. Spots via speed unequal are valid, but without defeating someone at speed equal, both characters will share a spot.
• SBA is assumed
• Two characters from the same verse can't occupy different placements in the same tier (ex. two SCP characters can't occupy the first and second placements in Tier 1-A, they can only share the same placement in that tier)

Tier High 1-A:

Spoiler

1. Gu Chensha

2. The Leviathan (The Unwritten)

3. Characters from Marvel Comics

4. Characters from The Elder Scrolls

5. Characters from Cthulhu Mythos

6. God (Unsong)

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Tier 1-A

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1. Characters from Cthulhu Mythos (Hypnos and Yog-Sothoth)

2. Gao Chuan / Joshua van Radcliffe.

3. Characters from Honkai (Star Rail and Impact 3rd)

4. The Great Reason

5. Characters from Dragon Talisman

6. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

7. MSPA Reader

8. Characters from Ergenverse

9. Nyanlathotep


10. Lu Zhiyu (Low Dimensional Game)



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Tier Low 1-A:

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1. Characters from Twin Peaks

2. Gao Chuan

3. Fang Xiu

4.The Downstreamers


5. Characters from Homestuck (John Egbert and Lord English)


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Tier High 1-B:

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1. Characters from The Elder Scrolls

2. Characters from Marvel Comics

3. Wendy (Low Dimensional Games)

4. Alicia Y Armitage

5. The Doctor

6. The Cosmic Spirits

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Tier 1-B:

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1. Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared

2. Characters from Magi

3. Characters from Instant Death

4. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro ni (Featherine Aurora/Maria Ushiromiya/Beatrice)

5. Characters from Godzilla SP Novelization

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Tier High 1-C:

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1. Characters from Honkai Impact 3rd

2. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

3. Mother Eater / Characters from Doctor Who

4. Characters from DC

5. Characters from Gurren Lagann (Verse)

6.Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index


7. Sun Wukong (JTTW)

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Tier 1-C:

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1. Shallow Vernal

2. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

3. Characters from Digimon

4. Sun Wukong (JTTW)

5: Ji Ning

6. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

7.Characters from Nasuverse

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Tier Low 1-C:

Spoiler

1. Gao Chuan

2. Ren Amamiya

3. Shallow Vernal

4. Meng Hao

5. Characters from Magi

6. Arceus

7. Xue Ying

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Tier 2-A:

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1. Gao Chuan

2. Caliborn

3.Stikua

4. Characters from Sage Monarch

5. Gu Taxian

6. Characters From Puella Magi Verse

7. Characters from Final Fantasy

8. The Player (Wizard 101)

9. Characters from Saint Seiya (Specifically Chronos)

10.Characters from Pokémon

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Tier 2-B:

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1. Characters from Ergenverse

2. Stikua

3. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

4. Xue Ying

5. Sora (Kingdom Hearts)

6. Wei Huo

7. Characters from Pokémon

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Tier 2-C:

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1. Xuan Fang

2. Characters from Castlevania (Dracula and Soma Cruz)

3. Characters from Dr. Slump (Arale Norimaki and Gatchan)

4. Oryx, the Taken King and The Witness

5. Characters from Touhou / Characters from Anima

6 Kamen Rider Saber

7.Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

8. Neron / The Creator / Darkseid

9. Dark Surfer

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Tier Low 2-C:

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1. Characters from World of Darkness

2. Characters from Warhammer 40K

3. Characters from Ergenverse

4 . Ln'eta and Estir

5. The Player (Wizard 101)

6. Wendy (Low Dimensional Game)

7. Space Ishtar

8. Nier (Granblue Fantasy)

9. D (Vampire Hunter D)


10. Memeovore

11.Characters from Destiny

12. Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)

13. Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern)

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Tier High 3-A:

Spoiler

1. Joshua

2. Characters from Warhammer 40,000 (The Emperor and Horus)

3. Fang Xiu

4. Characters from Marvel Comics


5. D (Vampire Hunter D)


6. Dmitrii Blinov


7. The Old Man of Wandering Mountain


8. Characters from Magic: The Gathering (The Planeswalker and Kozilek) (Speed Equalized) / Meng Chuan (Speed Unequalized)


9. Hoopa (Speed Equalized) / Characters from W.I.T.C.H.

10.Characters from Looney Tunes

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Tier 3-A:

Spoiler

1. Joshua van Radcliffe.

2. Fang Xiu

3. Kingprotea

4.Ji Ning

5. D (Vampire Hunter D)

6. Gu Taxian

7. Satan (Bastard!!)

8. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (such as Rimuru Tempest)

9. Kang Han Soo

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Tier 3-B:

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1. Avenger (Space Ishtar)

2.Zhong Yue

3. Bai Xiaochun

4. Li Qiye

5. Sephiroth

6. Soul King

7. Characters from Supernatural

8. Bender

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Tier 3-C:

Spoiler

1. Characters from Honkai (Star Rail and Impact)

2. Chen Jin

3. Characters from Marvel Comics (Doctor Doom and Daimon )


4. Avenger (Space Ishtar)

5. Gatchan

6. Cui Heng

7. Dark Schneider

8. Yhwach

9.Characters from Spongebob Squarepants

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Tier 4-A:

Spoiler

1. The Weaver

2. Chen Jin

3. Characters from Granblue Fantasy (Captain and Bahamut) (Speed Equalized) / Sun Wukong (Speed Unequalized)

4. Characters from Desolate Era

5. Characters from Dr. Slump (Arale Norimaki and Gatchan)

6. Characters from God of War

7.Ace (Final Fantasy)

8. Li Qiye

9.Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

10. Wei Shi Lindon

11. Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan) (Speed Equalized) / Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

12. Mickey Mouse (Speed Equalized) / SpongeBob SquarePants (Speed Unequalized)

13. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

14.Yang Kai

15. Announcer

Tier 4-B:

Spoiler

1. Joshua van Radcliffe.

2. The Emperor of Mankind

3. Characters from Doctor Who

4. Characters from Desolate Era

5. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

6. Characters from Grandmist Duology (Linley Baruch and Orloff)

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Tier High 4-C:

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1. Joshua van Radcliffe.

2. Characters from Warhammer 40k ( Emps, Malcador, Magnus, and Ahriman )

3. Sun Wukong (JTTW)

4. Subhuti

5. Balancer

6. Characters from Ergenverse

7. Characters from Kamen Rider (Ichigo, Nigo, V3, Riderman, X, Amazon, Stronger, Skyrider, Super-1 & ZX)

8. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

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Tier 4-C:

Spoiler

1. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

2. Characters from Sage Monarch (Ghost Emperor Yama and Crown Prince)

3. Xu Jingming

4. Anos Voldigoad

5. Characters from Devil May Cry (Dante and Beastheads)

6. True Dark Genie

7.Li Qiye

8. Woody Woodpecker

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Tier Low 4-C:

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1.Characters from Enter the Gungeon

2. Yang Kai

3. Megaman

4. Characters from Kamen Rider

5. Characters from Godzilla

6. Characters from Dragon Ball

7. Characters from the MCU

8.Characters from Voltron

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Tier High 5-A:

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1. Xue Ying

2. Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves the World)

3. Anos Voldigoad

4. Du Tian

5. Kang Han Soo

6. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

7. Characters from Final Fantasy VI

8. Amon (StarCraft)

9. Wang Ling

10. Characters from Marvel Vs Capcom

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Tier 5-A:

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1. Nyarlathotep

2. Kelly (Low Dimensional Game)

3. Doctor Strange

4 .Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

5. Characters from BlazBlue (Yuki Termui/Hakumen/Hazama)

6. Xue Ying

7. Kang Han Soo

8. Characters from Ergenverse

9. Zeref

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Tier 5-B:

Spoiler

1.Joshua van Radcliffe

2. Lu Zhiyu

3. Characters from Marvel (Doctor Doom and Daimon )

4. Foreigner (MHXX)

5. Cui Heng

6. Ruphas Mafahl (Unequalized Speed) / Ace (Final Fantasy) (Equalized Speed)

7. Kang Han Soo

8.Skarbrand

9. Arthas Menethil

10. Kamen Rider Kuuga

11.The Batter

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Tier Low 5-B:

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1. Nessie

2. Adam

3. Ji Ning

4.Characters From A Wild Last Boss Appeared (Ruphas Mafahl/Taurus of the Bull)

5. Hajime Nagumo

6. Kusuo Saiki

7. Kamen Rider Kabuto

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Tier 5-C:

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1. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy (Archaon, Lord of Change and Be'lakor)

2. Characters from Isekai at Peace (Alice/Fate/Kuromueina)

3. Characters from Final Fantasy XIII

4. Anos Voligoad

5. Wei Huo

6. Characters from Ergenverse (Wang Lin/Meng Hao)

7. Wei Shi Lindon

8. Konron

9. Characters from Arifureta

10. Iihiko Shishime

11. Statella

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Tier High 6-A:

Spoiler

1. Characters from Twin Peaks (The Fireman, MIKE, BOB)

2. Joshua van Radcliffe.

3. Nanashi (Shin Megami Tensei)

4. Lu Zhiyu

5. Isis Remnant

6.Gu Taxian

7. Characters from Final Fantasy V

8. Gunvolt

9. Kang Han Soo

10. Kamen Rider Zero-One

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Tier 6-A:

Spoiler

1. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

2. D (Vampire Hunter D)

3. Characters from Destiny (Crota, Son of Oryx, Oryx, the Taken King and Savathûn, the Witch Queen)

4. Cui Heng

5. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken ( Dino (Light Novel), Diablo (Light Novel) and Ruminas Valentine (Light Novel).)

6. Characters from Ergenverse (Song Que/Bai Xiaochun/Wang Lin)

7. Kidou En

8. Kang Han Soo

9. Naraku

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Tier High 6-B:

Spoiler

1. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy (Archaon, Be'lakor and Lord of Change)

2. Stikua

3. D (Vampire Hunter D)

4. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

5. Characters from Destiny

6. Kouki Amanogawa

7. Cthulhu

8. Characters from MCU (Thanos and Doctor Strange Supreme)

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Tier 6-B:

Spoiler

1. Kang Han Soo

2. Hoopa

3. Kars (JORGE JOESTAR)

4. Yomoji Shinsei

5. Characters from Arifureta

6. Spawn

7. Caren Hortensia

8. Po (Paws of Destiny)

9. Nessie

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Tier Low 6-B:

Spoiler

1. Rick (Instant Death)

2. Characters from BlazBlue (Ragna The Bloodedge/Hazama/Noel Vermillion)

3. Characters from Nasuverse

4. Linley Baruch

5. Characters from Final Fantasy IV (Cecil Harvey and Kain Highwind)

6. Characters from Arifureta


7. Characters from Super Smash Bros.

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Tier High 6-C:

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1. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy (Lords of Change and Be'lakor)

2. Characters from Nasuverse

3. D (Vampire Hunter D)

4. Neriscyrlas

5. Kamen Rider Ark-Zero

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Tier 6-C:

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1. Characters from Digimon (Eaters/MetalPhantomon)

2. Eanru

3. Anos Voldigoad

4. Kang Han Soo

5. Zero

6. Li Qiye

7. Noah

8. Characters from Super Mario Bros

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Tier High 7-A:

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1. Joshua van Radcliffe.

2. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! (Yakagi Suimei/Shane Reiji/Hydemary Alzbayne)

3. Avatar of Calamity

4. Noah (Owari no Chronicle)

5. Linley Baruch

6.Han Jee-Han

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Tier 7-A:

Spoiler

1. Gao Chuan / Joshua van Radcliffe.

2. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! (Clarissa Liger/Felmenia Stingray)

3. Vandalieu

4. Han Jee-Han

5. Characters from MCU (Doctor Strange Supreme and Scarlet Witch)

6. Characters from Ergenverse

7. Johnny Test

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Tier 7-B:

Spoiler

1. Es

2. Dante (Devil May Cry)

3. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Homura Akemi and Avatar of Calamity)

4. Characters from Under Night In Birth

5. Toujou Karuna

6. Hel

7. SCP-001

8. Badd Virtus

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Tier Low 7-B:

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1. Lu Zhiyu

2. Es

3. Kang Han Soo

4. Theodore Miller

5. Wei Huo

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Tier High 7-C:

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1. Ragna the Bloodedge

2. Rikuo Nura

3. True Dark Genie

4. Han Jee-Han

5. Femto (Speed Equal) / Fugil Arcadia (Speed Unequal)

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Tier 7-C:

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1. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru!

2. Chrysalis (Eternity Girl)

3. Klein Moretti

4. Altair (Re:Creators) / Taurox

5. Beiloune

6. Oersted

7. Lee Geon

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Tier Low 7-C:

Spoiler

1. Kelly

2. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru!

3. Meng Chuan

4. Characters from Destiny

5. Sacred Eclipse / Cat Boy

6. Henry Stickmin

7.Akuto Sai

8. Satoru Gojo

9. Invader Zim

10.Froggy 2

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Tier 8-A:

Spoiler

1. Gotrek Gurnisson / Settra

2. Caliborn

3. Fang Xiu

4. Lyliana Zandyke

5. Oracle

6. Danny Phantom

7. Frisk

8. Alex Mercer

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Tier 8-B:

Spoiler

1. Caliborn / The Emperor of Mankind

2. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

3. Characters from Destiny

4. Characters from Lobotomy Corporation

5. Iihiko Shishime

6. Kousuke Endou

7. Shigara Masami

8. Spawn

9. Will Vandom

10.Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)

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Tier High 8-C:

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1. Arkhan the Black

2. The Dunwich Horror

3. Characters from Digimon (Grimmon and GranDracmon)

4. Heaven Ascension DIO

5. Garland

6. Koriel Number 12

7. Toujou Karuna

8. Fil Necati

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Tier 8-C:

Spoiler

1. Culexus Assassins

2. Storm

3. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

4. Rick

5. D (Vampire Hunter D)

6. Xavier

7. Characters from Shadow Fight

8. Wei Huo

9. Blitz (Devil May Cry)

10. Koriel Number 12

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Tier 9-A:

Spoiler

1.Mage (Marauder)

2. Es

3. Characters from Destiny

4. Obsidian

5. Spawn

6. Spades Slick

7. Maxwell

8. Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)

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Tier 9-B:

Spoiler

1.Gilgamesh (The Unwritten)

2. Jill Presto

3. Miyama Kaito

4. MSPA Reader

5. Kinzo Ushiromiya

6. Morghur

7. John Taylor

8. Klein Moretti

9. Hatou Manabu

10. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

11. Khatep

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Tier 9-C:

Spoiler

1.Miyama Kaito

2. Little Treasure

3. Lucetta Quetzl / Mimi (World of Horror)

4. Cradle Robber

5. Danny Phantom

6. Scarlet Witch

7. Flumpty Bumpty

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Tier 10-A:

Spoiler

1. Mage (Marauder)

2. Gao Chuan

3. Pullman

4. Miyama Kaito

5. Yogiri Takatou

6. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

7. Characters from Marvel Comics (Charles Xavier and Invisible Woman)

8. Shinpei Ajiro

9. Tooru

10. Beta Suiter (TimeShift)

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Tier 10-B:

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1. Madame Rausch

2. Miyama Kaito

3. Beatrice

4. Molecule Man

5. Characters from Doki Doki Literature Club! (Monika and Sayori) / Lily

6. Griffin

7. Dementia

8. Rinka Shishimai

9. Shinpei Ajiro

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Tier 10-C:

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1. Lord Kroak

2. Doom of Malan'tai

3. Maria Ushiromiya

4. Culaina (Speed Equalized) / Chess Pieces (Speed Unequalized)

5. Ramiris (Light Novel)

6. Sōya Azashiro

7. Floating Eye

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Tier 11-A:

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1. Gomez (Fez)

2. The Boneless (Doctor Who)

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Tier 11-B:

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1. Disembodied Thought

2. D-1

3. Queens of Lineland

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Tier 11-C:

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1. Irotsuki


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Tier Unknown:

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1. Kriemhild Gretchen

2. Jessica Sorrow

3. Mimr

4. Lumina

5. Ghost Writer

6. Yue

7.Phantaminum

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Tier Varies:

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1. Characters from Soul of Searing Steel

2. Nyarlathotep

3. Characters from Twin Peaks (The Fireman/BOB/The Woodsmen)

4. Oblivion

5. Morghur

6.Characters from W.I.T.C.H. (The Guardians (W.I.T.C.H.))

7. Feedback

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[Rakih_Elyan]

Goku for tier 0.

 

[Livinmeme]

Second dood

 

[Livinmeme]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giant_Corpora_of_Knowledge for fist place in 1-B...Uh...They have tier 0 hax...But does it even count? They are closer to a civilization

 

[Brogeefrong]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Archie_Pre-Genesis_Wave)?so=search for 11th in low 2-c
And
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Modern) as Super Sonic for 12th

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Here's a list of changes that were proposed in the last thread

1. Sonic characters need to be removed from 2-A since they're now Low 1-C
2. Void Entity needs to be removed from 7-B since he's now 8-A. Characters from Under Night In Birth take the number 4 spot as his replacement thanks to Void characters like Merkava
3. Epic Battle Fantasy moves up to the #5 spot, with everyone else moving down one spot
4. For 5-C it was proposed Reinhard and Statella be added back to the list, and to help fill out 5-C even more since it's a barren wasteland of a tier we can just borrow from the Non-Smurf List with Arifureta and Konron.
5. For 5-B Bastard Characters go behind Skarbrand, and characters from Metroid can go behind Arthas (Though I might do a match between them), and since Batter is pretty much a placeholder we can have Knives Millions take his spot. Edit: Also forgot Ergenverse characters (Mostly Gongsun Waner) should be added too.
6. For the Unknown Tier Mimr goes to #3 for his standard equipment, Lumina goes behind him at #4 and Ghost Writer from Danny Phantom gets added.
7. Characters from Final Fantasy share the 5th place 2-A spot with Puella Magi Verse

Probably missed some stuff, but I'm sure people will say it in the the thread.

 

[DaReaperMan]

4. For 5-C it was proposed Reinhard and Statella be added back to the list, and to help fill out 5-C even more since it's a barren wasteland of a tier we can just borrow from the Non-Smurf List with Arifureta and Konron.

Reinhard is High 6-A physically. Only Statella.

5. For 5-B Bastard Characters go behind Skarbrand, and characters from Metroid can go behind Arthas (Though I might do a match between them), and since Batter is pretty much a placeholder we can have Knives Millions take his spot

I'm fairly sure Arthas resists all the best hax from Metroid and a slugfest is where he shines sooooo

6. For the Unknown Tier Mimr goes to #3 for his standard equipment, Lumina goes behind him at #4 and Ghost Writer from Danny Phantom gets added.

Yep

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Reinhard is High 6-A physically. Only Statella.

Ah yeah I missed that, sorry

 

[Psychomaster35]

Neat. Anywho, my proposed changes.

For 9-B:

• Add Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy for a spot there (Mainly Matt, Natalie, Lance, and NoLegs). Basically, all 4 of them have passive 5-D Plot/Fate Manipulation as well as passive Law/Probability Manipulation. And if they ever die, the Player that canonically trolls them (Who is 5-D) will redo the battle and try again until they get a scenario where they win.

For High 5-A:

• Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy should be placed above the Final Fantasy 6 characters. As someone who has played FFVI years ago, I don’t ever recall any of them having passives. Combined with the fact that all of their magic is 4-D at best (And the fact that they are thousands of times slower), they easily get screwed against Matt and Natalie who have passive 5-D Plot/Fate hax.

For 4-A:

• Xavier shouldn't be here. As per this CRT, he was supposed to be solidly upgraded to Low 2-C. So, he should be removed.
• Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy should be placed above Ace, honestly. Like I said earlier, hax in Final Fantasy is 4-D at best, which means he will be trumped by the party's passive 5-D Plot/Fate hax.

For 3-B:

• Xavier shouldn't be here. As per this CRT, he was supposed to be solidly upgraded to Low 2-C. So, he should be removed.

For 2-C:

• Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy for the 6th spot in 2-C. Not only do the playable characters have passive Law and Probability Manipulation as well as 5-D Plot and Fate Manipulation, but the Devourer also has passive Fate Manipulation to ensure that it will always be there to reset the world, as well as the fact that it can become 5-D itself.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Also, in High 1-C, the 6th spot and below are actually 1-B, so they need to be moved there.

And if there's anything to go by in order to fill in the empty spaces, we can always just copy+paste the top spots from the Non-Smurf list to fill in those spaces.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Gahard for 7-A, Alvaheit for 6-C

 

[DaReaperMan]

Neat. Anywho, my proposed changes.

For 9-B:

• Add Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy for a spot there (Mainly Matt, Natalie, Lance, and NoLegs). Basically, all 4 of them have passive 5-D Plot/Fate Manipulation as well as passive Law/Probability Manipulation. And if they ever die, the Player that canonically trolls them (Who is 5-D) will redo the battle and try again until they get a scenario where they win.

Well they're definitely below Morghur lol

 

[Naito-desu]

Lords of Change should be removed from High 6-B, because Greater Daemons lost their High 6-B key

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Since I don't think it was ever added in the last thread:

• Characters from Warhammer 40,000 (The Emperor and Horus) for 1st in 4-B and High 3-A
• The Emperor should share a spot with Caliborn in 8-B due to inconing him
• Kairos' spot in 8-B should be changed to Characters from Warhammer 40,000 (Ahriman, Magnus, Malcador, Kairos, etc) since they can't incon Caliborn like Emps can

 

[Livinmeme]

5-C only has 10 spots, also characters from clorox to fill space (I think Kubo self insert 1, and 2 can beat medaka box characters, but that is left for my lackeys the supporters to decide)

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Also where's the non smurf thread?

 

[Livinmeme]

Spoiler

Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken. For tier minus infinity

Uh...Naruto characters for an empty space in 5-C (mostly this guy)

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

just woke up and finally make the changes

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Archie_Pre-Genesis_Wave)?so=search for 11th in low 2-c
And
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Modern) as Super Sonic for 12th

why. What do they have.

Here's a list of changes that were proposed in the last thread


4. For 5-C it was proposed Reinhard and Statella be added back to the list, and to help fill out 5-C even more since it's a barren wasteland of a tier we can just borrow from the Non-Smurf List with Arifureta and Konron.

have to check matches to place the other 5C from the non smurf thread to there

5. For 5-B Bastard Characters go behind Skarbrand, and characters from Metroid can go behind Arthas (Though I might do a match between them), and since Batter is pretty much a placeholder we can have Knives Millions take his spot. Edit: Also forgot Ergenverse characters (Mostly Gongsun Waner) should be added too.

do not know about the others. Have the to matched to figure their places

7. Characters from Final Fantasy share the 5th place 2-A spot with Puella Magi Verse

did they incon in past match ups

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Weren't Touhou characters tied with Oryx in the last thread or am I tweaking? They should be above KR Saber in 2-C, as discussed here.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Ben Tennyson should be removed from 6-C, since he is 5-C now

 

[Brogeefrong]

just woke up and finally make the changes

why. What do they have.

Archie Sonic has 7D Powernull, CM Type 1, and Passive Fate hax that works by rewriting the Plot, that also works on Type 4 Acausal's
Game Super Forms have Passive 5D Information, CM Type 1, Causality, and Law Hax

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

this is the smurf list not non smurf list

Ah, well, that's not changing the fact that Touhou characters should be in the 2-C list.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Who's the strongest Pokemon 2-A?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Who's the strongest Pokemon 2-A?

Giratina

Giratina is a Ghost/Dragon-type and a member of Sinnoh's Creation Trio. The embodiment of antimatter, it was banished to the Distortion World for its rash violence against its brethren. Even now it is said to look upon the old world from every mirror. Tier: 2-B, likely 2-A, higher in Origin Form...

vsbattles.fandom.com

I think

 

[Mr. Bambu]

all you people disgust me and I hope for ruin upon your noble houses

 

[DaReaperMan]

all you people disgust me and I hope for ruin upon your noble houses

What disgusts you more

Bleach(the anime) or this thread

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

all you people disgust me and I hope for ruin upon your noble houses

I am a commoner sir.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I am a commoner sir.

Same

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I am a commoner sir.

your huts, hovels, and shacks, then.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Shinpei is no longer 10-A. He's 9-C now, could heget a spot in 9-C?

 

[Bastos]

Giorno not even mentioned yet ís crazy.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Giorno not even mentioned yet ís crazy.

Foddiorno? Who's that?

 

[Bastos]

Foddiorno? Who's that?

Stomps on your fav ngl.

 

[Tempestdragon6]

Giratina

Giratina is a Ghost/Dragon-type and a member of Sinnoh's Creation Trio. The embodiment of antimatter, it was banished to the Distortion World for its rash violence against its brethren. Even now it is said to look upon the old world from every mirror. Tier: 2-B, likely 2-A, higher in Origin Form...

vsbattles.fandom.com

I think

and veldanava beat the shit out of him

 

[Tempestdragon6]

rimuru for 2c or any slime characters in high 6a

 

[DaReaperMan]

and veldanava beat the shit out of him

I have 10-Cs that solo the entirety of slimeverse no-diff. That's nothing.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Shinpei is no longer 10-A. He's 9-C now, could heget a spot in 9-C?

I think he should take #1 on 9-C because of his 2-A ability. If his opponents doesnt exist in infinite amount of timelines, the moment he dies, it's gg's for them. He'll resurrect right after aswell.

 

[CanineAnnoyer]

Chara (Undertale) for 2-B

 

[Eseseso]

Low 1-C: Makina should be tied with Arceus. Darkseid should get the #11 spot, with Nyanlathotep at #12 (she can't affect Darkseid's AE1). Loki is the weakest 6D on this site so he gets #13, while Characters from BlazBlue should get #14 (Infinite Layers of hax go brr) and Kratos gets #15 since PoH goes brr.

 

[Livinmeme]

Foddiorno? Who's that?

The archinemesis of LANCEhammer 40k