Thor, Thanos, and more should be Low 6-B

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So it is only Large island now? Then I agree with downgrading Thanos

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. The new calculation needs to be properly accepted first though.

 

[Dino_W]

Would Captain Marvel still be Low 6-B for tanking Kree ballistic missles? There were some doubts as to whether the missles she tanked were the same as the ones which caused explosions visible from space.

 

[Antvasima]

The new calculation has been accepted.

 

[Dino_W]

Cool.

So I guess the new tiers would look something like this:

Thor: High 6-C, far higher with Stormbreaker | High 6-C, higher with Stormbreaker and Mjolnir

Thanos: At least High 6-C, likely higher. Higher with the Double-Bladed Helicopter Sword

Hulk: High 6-C | High 6-C

Iron Man: High 6-C | High 6-C

Hela: At least High 6-C. Higher with weaponary

Surtur: At least High 6-C, likely higher

Captain America: At least High 6-C, higher with shield and hammer (Side note: Why does Cap have an "at least rating"? Awakened Thor doesn't.

Captain Marvel: At least High 6-C, likely higher. Higher with Energy Absorption

Scarlet Witch: At least 9-B physically. At least High 6-C, likely far higher with Psionics

Doctor Strange: 9-B physically, High 6-C with Magic

Ebony Maw: 9-B physically. High 6-C with Telekinesis, possibly higher

Rescue: Possibly High 6-C

Final question: Does Captain Marvel scale to Kree Ballistic Missiles, and if so, who scales to her?

 

[Hellbeast1]

I don't see any reason she wouldn't honestly.

You could argue Thanos scaling to her but unsure

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Wait what? I have several questions.

1. Why does Captain America, Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch all scale above Thor?

2. Who tf is Rescue?

 

[Js250476]

Shouldn't you be adding a + to those High 6-C ratings.

 

[Dino_W]

I have no idea why Captain America scales above Thor, but Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch were able to overpower Thanos, while Thor was not. Rescue=Pepper Potts

Do tier listings have +s in them, wouldn't that be in the AP section? I've only seen one profile with a + sign next to a tier and in the AP section.

If Thanos scales to KBM Captain Marvel, then Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, Stormbreaker Thor, and Ebony Maw also scale.

 

[Hellbeast1]

@Crimson Rescue is Pepper Potts while using her Iron Man Suit

I'd also predict Marvel and Scarlet Witch are higher then Thor because they actually nearly killed him (Cap threw down as well)

 

[Js250476]

I mean Thanos stomped Awakening Thor at the start of Infinity War where's Wanda and Carol Could actually over power him.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch overpowered Thanos when Fat Thor couldn't. Literally the final scene of Infinity War and the first scene of Endgame have Thor fatally wound Thanos. Twice!

And ohhhhh. That thing's called Rescue?

 

[Js250476]

With Stormbreaker which is a big difference.

 

[Dino_W]

Thor killed Thanos with Stormbreaker, so he is listed as "far higher" with Stormbreaker.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Ah, yeah, gotcha. Sweet, then I'm all good with all of this

 

[Dino_W]

Low 6-B Captain Marvel (scaling to Kree Missles) or High 6-C?

 

[Hellbeast1]

@Crimson Awakened Thor got the drop on Thanos just after he was injured by channeling the Gauntlet..

 

[Hellbeast1]

Also I'm down fro Low 6-B

 

[Dino_W]

I agree with Low 6-B as well. The neutron star calc puts Thor very close to Low 6-B, and Captain Marvel is quite a bit stronger than base awakened Thor.

 

[Revan_Laha]

Hela is considerably stronger than base awakened Thor too

 

[Dino_W]

Yeah, the AP gap required to breach Low 6-B is only 1.17x.

 

[Antvasima]

I would appreciate input from more staff members here.

 

[Dino_W]

I'll ask around again.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

This still looks fine btw

was working on something, apologies

 

[Dino_W]

No apology needed!

Low 6-B or High 6-C CM?

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody ask for input from a few administrators, just to make certain?

 

[Dino_W]

Sure.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I tend to agree with Low 6-B more since the line is blurred pretty heavily here considering how high into High 6-C they are and there is a Low 6-B feat from another character.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This seems fine to me.

 

[Dino_W]

Alright so

Likely Low 6-Bs

Captain Marvel (Tanked KBMs)

Thanos (Far superior to Thor, but inferior to CM)

Hela (Far superior to Thor)

Surtur (Far superior to Hela)

Scarlet Witch (Superior to Thanos)

Doctor Strange (Scales to Thanos)

Ebony Maw (Scales to Doctor Strange)

Stormbreaker Thor (Killed Thanos)

Mjolnir Cap (Fought with a blood lusted Thanos)

Bro Thor (Wields Stormbreaker)

Unlikely Low 6-Bs

Iron Man (Made Thanos bleed, but was significantly inferior to him)

Rescue (Scales to Iron Man)

High 6-Cs

Awakened Thor (Tanked a neutron star)

Hulk (Inferior to Thor)

 

[M3X_2.0]

Iron Man scale to Low 6-B

 

[M3X_2.0]

And if Bro-Thor scale to Low-6-B then Awakened Thor should scale too

 

[Dino_W]

Well I meant Bro-Thor with Stormbreaker, Bro-Thor base would just be High 6-C. I think Iron Man should be High 6-C because he got knocked out by Bro Thor, and Thanos was able to casually rip off his helmet.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Whatever is the consensus here about the scaling, I think Awakened Thor and Iron-Man should scale to Low 6-B. I don't even know why we should change the scaling, just change the ratings

 

[Dino_W]

Awakened Thor was nearly killed by High 6-C energy (855 gigatons). But because that is extremely close to baseline Low 6-B, Thanos, who is far superior to Thor, is likely Low 6-B. Captain Marvel Tanked Low 6-B Kree missles (2.7 teratons), and is superior to Thanos.

 

[M3X_2.0]

So Bro-Thor could fight a bloodlusted Thanos, but Awakened Thor, who is stronger than Bro-Thor scale to high 6-C? The "he was with Stormbreaker" argument means nothing, he needed physical strength to do this. The difference between Thor's feat and baseline Low 6-B is so irrelevant that it would make no difference about the scaling at all

 

[Mr. Bambu]

For the record I agree with M3X.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

M3X has a point. Also, Awakened almost died to 2 mins of continuous High 6-C attacks so him and Hulk should scale to the Low 6-B.

 

[Dino_W]

Yeah, the margin of error on that calc is probably wide enough that the 1.17x gap doesn't matter. Low 6-B everyone then I guess.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah I'm against High 6-C Thor. Either everyone is Low 6-B or everyone is High 6-C. It wouldn't make sense to scale Fat Thor and Mark 50 Iron Man above IW Thor.

Also for CM the Low 6-B thing would be for durability only. Not AP.