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Mcu high tiers star lvl revision
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Captain Marvel+Gladiator=MCU Captain Marvel?
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According to visual effects supervisor Christopher Townsend:
“Trying to find the aesthetic for her superpowers was incredibly difficult. We had lots of discussions about how, when she’s gone full binary, which is when she’s fully powered as it were, it should look. The visual challenge was to try and figure out how to create something that doesn’t look just like fire and doesn’t look just like electricity…that also had a familiarity so that from an audience point of view, you can accept it and not question it, but at the same time is spectacular and amazing.
According to visual effects supervisor Craig Hammack:
"I think my favorite shot has to be the first full binary shot we finaled. We see Captain Marvel stream by in the previous shot as an incredible glow and then she turns around and the glow recedes and she powers down."
According to the official Endgame script (page 131):
CAROL GLOWS BRIGHTER AS SHE GOES BINARY, ROCKETING AGAIN THROUGH THE HULL. BOOM! THE SHIP LISTS, ENGINES EXPLODING. CAROL EYES THE BATTLEFIELD, EXHAUSTED, LIGHT FADING.
“Trying to find the aesthetic for her superpowers was incredibly difficult. We had lots of discussions about how, when she’s gone full binary, which is when she’s fully powered as it were, it should look. The visual challenge was to try and figure out how to create something that doesn’t look just like fire and doesn’t look just like electricity…that also had a familiarity so that from an audience point of view, you can accept it and not question it, but at the same time is spectacular and amazing.
According to visual effects supervisor Craig Hammack:
"I think my favorite shot has to be the first full binary shot we finaled. We see Captain Marvel stream by in the previous shot as an incredible glow and then she turns around and the glow recedes and she powers down."
According to the official Endgame script (page 131):
CAROL GLOWS BRIGHTER AS SHE GOES BINARY, ROCKETING AGAIN THROUGH THE HULL. BOOM! THE SHIP LISTS, ENGINES EXPLODING. CAROL EYES THE BATTLEFIELD, EXHAUSTED, LIGHT FADING.
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What’s that men
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“Can increase her power by going binary, glowing brighter with the more power she exerts”?
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What level was she in endgame 5?
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She had the full body shimmering effect without glowing eyes/hair when she fought Thanos, so yes, that does seem to indicate she was at level 5 on that scale.
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Interesting so if level 6 is star level what would 5 be
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Wouldn't the space stone scale?
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Her sun reigniting feat involved an aura far larger than any previous one she created before, so I guess Low 4-C would probably be treated as something above the original six level scale.
It is the source of Carol's powers, though Ronan also seemed to consider Carol to be a more impressive weapon than the Tesseract.
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I've unlocked the following:
Thor (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Thor Odinson is the God of Thunder, prince of Asgard and a former member of the Avengers. When his irresponsible behavior threatened his homeland, he was stripped of his power and banished by his father Odin to Earth. While exiled on Earth, Thor learned humility, found love in Jane Foster, and...
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Iron Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Anthony Edward "Tony" Stark is an eccentric self-described genius, billionaire, playboy and philanthropist, and the former head of Stark Industries. Using his own great wealth and exceptional technical knowledge, Stark enjoyed the playboy lifestyle for many years until he was kidnapped by the...
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While it's true that she got powers because of tesseract, it was never her power source.
The space stone does not limit Carol as much as Carol does not limit the stone.
As far as we know captain marvel got powers from a fraction of the space stone power not the full thing and we don't have a reason to assume her powers are linear to the space stone.
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Alright, nice, thank you. I’ve updated the sandbox to include that, and if nobody has any issues with it, I’ll apply this to her page.
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it looks good
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Ant-Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Scott Edward Harris Lang is a former professional criminal who was convinced by Hank Pym to take on the mantle of Ant-Man. He fought against Pym's former protégé Darren Cross, who had gone insane while trying to recreate the Pym Particles, leading to Lang defending his friends, family and the...
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I’m confused how anyone is getting star level results for restarting a star that’s so small. Carol is visible in the energy stream she creates as she’s about to hit the star. It’s 6 meters or so. It’s comparable in length to the star’s diameter. The diameter can’t be anymore than 100 meters. Also, what is the reasoning for using our sun’s data to calc this?
The star is smaller than the one in Infinity War, which was already pretty small.
Also, the Russos said that an explosion any bigger than the one we saw in Endgame would kill everyone. The most important person that’s used for scaling there is Thor. They’re essentially saying he can’t survive large nukes
The star is smaller than the one in Infinity War, which was already pretty small.
Also, the Russos said that an explosion any bigger than the one we saw in Endgame would kill everyone. The most important person that’s used for scaling there is Thor. They’re essentially saying he can’t survive large nukes
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Literally have the video of the last part. And it’s blatantly obvious that star is tinyYou like have 0 clue what you're talm about huh
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Firstly, even if you were right, they give us an example of the stream's luminosity making it appear far more massive right before she travels to Hala's sun.
Secondly, it was half-formed, and proceeded to considerably brighten and occlude her entirely. We don't even get an idea of the full size because there's a change in perspective and a big jump cut while it's still brightening.
Plus, part of the whole plot was that Dar-Benn planned to waste the Earth's sun to reignite Hala's. She took a solar filament in the first ten seconds, continued until the sun massively decreased in luminosity, and then left the process going for a lot longer. Yet, that didn't even come close to reigniting Hala's sun.
It's clearly not some ******* mosquito sun that a large nuke could reignite.
I get the feeling you're trying to invalidate Thor's feat as well. In which case, it was a neutron star and designed to be miles wide.
- THOR: You'll know when we're there. Nidavellir's forge harnesses the power of a blazing neutron star. It's the birth place of my hammer. It's truly awesome.
Citation?
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So looking at the profiles, no one scales to Carol?
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Nope
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No… the perspectives you show make it look extremely close. It wouldn’t need to be very big to give off brightness at that level.
Her head is still visible. Getting brighter ≠ getting any larger, it’s clearly not.
Less impressive feat on the same small star… yay?
You guys are calculating based on visuals. But no visual indicates that Hala’s sun is anywhere near the size of ours. And her plan doesn’t mean she’s capable of doing it. It’s just talking
The perspectives you’ve shown say otherwise.
I’m not. He did do the feat. But the star is observably small. Every perspective shows this. I don’t even think the size changes the feat regardless.
I’ll get it. I need to find the video again.
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VFX Supervisor - Matt Aiken Discusses Creating the Crater
2:10-2:30. The Russos are the ones who said they can’t survive a much bigger explosion. I can’t remember what level the one in the movie is, but it’s in the kilotons, I think. Something in the megatons seems to be too powerful.
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Captain Marvel Power Level - Question 15
I forgot I had a screenshot from this article yearsss ago that discussed captain marvel.The explosions we see are from her destroying the inter workings of the ship, like engines. The only thing we can attribute to her is flying through the ships. It seems to imply she couldn’t destroy the ships without those explosions.
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Feats in the actual material would prioritized over director statements; going by how physics works, Thor’s Durability must be comparable to his Striking Strength in order for him to withstand his own attacks, so we know he can survive kiloton/megaton explosions.
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Firstly, why do you think I gave two images, one from space and one from the near (relatively speaking) the ground? It was specifically to account for the perspective of the first image.
Honestly, I don't think you know anything about perspective at all. We can see Hala's Sun in high detail here (with sunspots and such being directly visible). If it was less than a few miles across, do you realise how close it'd have to be to Hala (an Earth-like, self gravitating planet) for a shot like that to be possible, let alone for orbital mechanics like this to work?
For reference, these are Deimos and Phobos from Mars' surface. These moons are both over a dozen kilometres across and thousands of kilometres from Mars' surface. By your own logic, you'd be able to see Hala in basically any of the shots opposite to CM's perspective as she's flying to the sun, but you can't.
Secondly, you can see entire cities and the curvature of Hala. Even if she's half-way across that altitude in either image, 'close' is many, many kilometres.
Lastly, I'm not discussing size, or the size threshold needed to give off light, I'm discussing apparent size. This is a bus from the Empire State building observatory. You can see why I'm saying Carol is so bright that she appears to be considerably more than 6 metres wide, right?
In the first 3 panels, yes. That's why I gave more than 3 panels.
You ******* see it get larger and brighter. I don't know how you can just look at visual evidence and deny it.
He's including people like Rocket Racoon, Star Lord, Spider-Man and Cap in the first statement. Thor has survived worse, and certainly done worse, than what we see in this video.
Other than that, we don't know what the 'much bigger' nuke that would've killed them all entails because nobody on the actual MCU team (just the Corridor Crew editors) gave an example in the video. For all we know, he could be referring to something like this.
This is just unimaginable cap. If the movie is telling us to believe something, I'm going to believe it well before I believe whatever goonery you're spouting.And her plan doesn’t mean she’s capable of doing it. It’s just talking
Firstly, those are Kree spaceships. IIRC, we don't even know how durable they are when they're fully operational/shielded in a combat situation.
Secondly, the fact that CM destroyed them by causing internal mechanisms to explode isn't even an anti-feat. The same supervisor also states that she went through the ships 'like a hot knife through butter', so the damage she caused doesn't represent some kind of limit for her.
Third, she massacred the Sanctuary II like it was nothing at a lesser power level, and flew through Kree missiles that are explicitly (and demonstrably) planet sterilizers. Who the hell cares that CM didn't pop a few Kree ships?
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If something this imply that she could have destroyed the entire ship and the VFX team decided that was too "boring" to look at so they went with another option.
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No way this guy us still yapping... he's gonna keep derailing with very senseless arguments, let's just keep things on track and finish this up
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Which pages havent be changed yet?
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Note that I removed Carol's outdated matches.
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I'm not seeing any that are still 4-C so I think we're good
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But should make sure the high 6-A are changed too.
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Carol still needs to be changed to a Varies tier, I was hoping to get more input on my draft of that before I applied it to her page.
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I think it looks good.
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Carol’s range should be upgraded too, no?
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