The End All Be All of Fire Force Revision Threads!

[Arnoldstone18]

Yeah

 

[KLOL506]

As it says right here in the Discussion Rules:

• For all content revision suggestions, a grace period of 48 hours should be allowed for the reviewing staff members to evaluate and approve them. This grace period applies to both minor and self-evident revisions, as well as larger revisions that may require more input from other staff members. This is to ensure that all staff members have the opportunity to review the suggested revisions and provide their input, even if the initial explanation post in a content revision thread is quite large and complicated. Until this grace period has elapsed since the time of the thread's creation, the revision should not be applied to the profiles."

Apologies for the skill issue to everyone on this thread.

 

[KLOL506]

Ok wait….does that mean the changes can be applied as we have 4 official staff votes agreeing with scaling to AP?

Aye. Grace period is over and a sufficient number of staff members have responded and accepted the proposals.

 

[PowerToScale]

Ok wait….does that mean the changes can be applied as we have 4 official staff votes agreeing with scaling to AP?

BTW do you know how this will affect soul eater scaling or will that be a separate thread

 

[KLOL506]

BTW do you know how till will affect soul eater scaling or will that be a separate thread

Best to just leave it for another day.

 

[Maitreya12]

Aye. Grace period is over and a sufficient number of staff members have responded and accepted the proposals.

Anyways since the majority of staff who have commented and agreed said that the rating for the feat should be a solid 2-C rating that is the rating I will apply if that’s good with everyone?

 

[Antvasima]

Shouldn't @Everything12's concerns here be alleviated first?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Changes can finally be applied then it seems

 

[Maitreya12]

Shouldn't @Everything12's concerns here be alleviated first?

I don’t mind waiting for his comments on the matter before applying the revisions if that’s more acceptable.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Shouldn't @Everything12's concerns here be alleviated first?

Maitreya made a response addressing his comments here:

Adolla itself is embodying and carrying the history of humanity and its despair along with all the other concepts it embodies as it’s just perception in general. In fact the only way Shinra was able to witness the past before the cataclysm, was by going in Adolla. Even though mere moments passed for him while he was in the Adolla world, 3 months had passed in the real world and his doppelgänger from Adolla had taken over his body in the real world. (A doppelgänger is the perception other people have over a person that manifests into an actual personality within Adolla as that is the world and manifestation of all perception in general.)

Adolla itself is space-time and carries history in of itself within it including its other concepts and ideas such as the “world.”. It’s a place that simultaneously exists and doesn’t exist as it’s simply the image of despair humanity has come up with throughout the ages. And this image of the past of the history of humanities despair merges with the very present world. The concepts from the people of the past mixes with the concepts of the people of the present.

So the reason Adolla merging with the real world is because it’s a spatially separated world with its own different time flow that carries with it the very history of humanity’s despair. That past history and image of despair merges with the present by tearing space between them and connecting the two worlds together.

 

[Maitreya12]

Multiple others have also pointed out how the world of Adolla is a separate world entirely disconnected from the real world as a higher plane here:

Question: Would this support the idea of 2-C.

Adolla itself is regarded as higher Plane of existence (an alternative translations was dimension), with it encompassing the concepts of higher planes and mathematics. It is also referred to the transcendental world ("transcendence of the otherworld") with it also having being stated to command all things. When it comes to Shinrabanshoman, it is said that he wields the power of all of creation, with it also being stated that using imagination and the power of god he formed all of creation (referring to him recreating the earth, sun and universal concepts like death). It is also stated that imagination can create and erase all possibilities.

Plank mention this probably being enough for separation.

Adolla itself is regarded as higher Plane of existence (an alternative translations was dimension), with it encompassing the concepts of higher planes and mathematics. It is also referred to the transcendental world ("transcendence of the otherworld") with it also having being stated to command all things.

Additionally which I forgort to add earlier, The evangelist is stated to be a extradimensional being, which is Science fiction jargon it means
1: Originating outside the known physical reality of the universe.
2: Coming from a dimension outside Einsteinian space-time.

While from a physics standpoint means:
1: Proposed additional space or time dimensions beyond the (3 + 1) typical of observed spacetime

Either way, it refers to a being or place beyond or outside the universes spacetime.

 

[Halkum145]

2C FİRE FORCE LEETSS FUCKİNG GET İTT

 

[ObberGobb]

@Maitreya Are you going to make a Soul Eater CRT at some point to discuss scaling to FF? If so, could you send it to me whenever its created?

 

[Maitreya12]

@Maitreya Are you going to make a Soul Eater CRT at some point to discuss scaling to FF? If so, could you send it to me whenever its created?

Yeah I gotchu.

For now I’m gonna take a little break on Fire Force CRT’s because I have other series that needs to be downgraded/upgraded too (like god of highschool) and they’re gonna each need threads in their own right.

But this…this is a BIG Fire Force W.

Finally we’re out of that 5-B Hell!

 

[ObberGobb]

Yeah, no rush at all. Just whenever the day comes I want to help out. I've worked a bit on improving some of the profiles by adding scans, citations, abilties and scaling them to 2-C. I've done the most with Maka.

 

[Excellence616]

Yeah I gotchu.

For now I’m gonna take a little break on Fire Force CRT’s because I have other series that needs to be downgraded/upgraded too (like god of highschool) and they’re gonna each need threads in their own right.

But this…this is a BIG Fire Force W.

Finally we’re out of that 5-B Hell!

Who are the God tiers of FF?

 

[Maitreya12]

Who are the God tiers of FF?

Shinra and Haumea (Evangelist fusion)

And we currently accept Death as on par with Shinra but I’m gonna be totally honest…I disagree with that scaling but that’s gonna need to be addressed in a separate thread down the road.

 

[Excellence616]

Shinra and Haumea (Evangelist fusion)

And we currently accept Death as on par with Shinra but I’m gonna be totally honest…I disagree with that scaling but that’s gonna need to be addressed in a separate thread down the road.

I really thought Sho, and Arthur will be God tiers

 

[Alexander]

Shinra and Haumea (Evangelist fusion)

And we currently accept Death as on par with Shinra but I’m gonna be totally honest…I disagree with that scaling but that’s gonna need to be addressed in a separate thread down the road.

I always wondered why we didn't accept the fact that in fire force the laws of physics are used where if something goes at the speed of light the mass it will have and energy would be infinite.
that will get them to universal high without problem(and considering sho resisting the heat of the universe feat,it does not that much of inconsistency)

 

[Maitreya12]

I really thought Sho, and Arthur will be God tiers

Sho is technically part of Shinrabanshoman since he fused with them but his regular self I don’t think would scale since he didn’t really do anything to Haumea even before she was fused with the Evangelist

But idk why Arthur would scale either too. He didn’t really do anything to the God tiers. He only fought Dragon.

 

[Alexander]

Sho is technically part of Shinrabanshoman since he fused with them but his regular self I don’t think would scale since he didn’t really do anything to Haumea even before she was fused with the Evangelist

But idk why Arthur would scale either too. He didn’t really do anything to the God tiers. He only fought Dragon.

actually, i think arthur technically should scale, due to the fact that dragon's despair was superior to all mankind's hope, and arthur's hope is comparable to dragon's despair.
and the hope of humanity can stop the cataclysm,but do to dragon despair,the cataclysm was able to continue(although it would continue even without dragon)

 

[Everything12]

Put me down for neutral. I don't fully agree to the logic in place but I understand where it's cowing from, and if others agree to it then I don’t have issues enough to say their mistaken.

 

[Halkum145]

actually, i think arthur technically should scale, due to the fact that dragon's despair was superior to all mankind's hope, and arthur's hope is comparable to dragon's despair.
and the hope of humanity can stop the cataclysm,but do to dragon despair,the cataclysm was able to continue(although it would continue even without dragon)

agreed

 

[Deceived3596]

I'm giving this one to two months flat before it gets the Bleach treatment, maybe even less ngl.

Enjoy your spoils of war for now Fire Force goons, as you'll be called upon again in the near future to defend your precious rating.

 

[Maitreya12]

Ok the final tally on the matter:

Agree: @Maitreya @Arnoldstone18 @CloverDragon03 (agrees with universal range + AP as well) @Deceived3596 (agrees with universal range) @Alexander @InfiniteDay @PowerToScale (agrees with universal range) @narutosage15 @CurrySenpai @Dalesean027 (agrees with universal range + AP as well) @Shmooply @Halkum145 @chosen @SupremeGilgamesh @Shey (agrees with universal range) @Greatsage13th @Zoldyck59 @AKUTO123 @Helestias @Therefir (agrees with universal range) @eliaspower1234 @Damage3245 (agrees with universal range) @ObberGobb @Jasonsith (agrees with universal range) @RoyGundam (agrees with universal range) @Excel616 @TauanVictor (agree with universal range) @DarkDragonMedeus (agreed with universal range + scaling to physical stats as well.) @DemonGodMitchAubin (agrees with everything.) @Maverick_Zero_X (agrees with everything) @Planck69 (agreed with everything) @RandomGuy2345

Neutral: @CloverDragon03 (neutral, leaning towards agree for physical stats) @Deceived3596 (neutral/leaning towards agree on physical stats) @Dalesean027 (neutral, leaning towards agree on physical stats) @RandomGuy2345 @Shey (neutral on physical stats) @PowerToScale (neutral on physical stats) @TauanVictor (neutral on physical stats) @DarkDragonMedeus (neutral, leaning towards agree on scaling to physical stats) @Damage3245 (neutral on physical stats) @Everything12 (neutral on the scaling)

Disagree: @Arc7Kuroi @Pain_to12 @ImmortalDread

Finally Tally:

4 staff agree
2 staff neutral
0 staff disagree

This CRT is officially….OVER!!​

We did it folks

 

[Halkum145]

Now we need to turn this off and join hands for profiles...
We really went through a lot of stress supporting maitreya on this road but we finally won.

 

[Maitreya12]

I'm giving this one to two months flat before it gets the Bleach treatment, maybe even less ngl.

Enjoy your spoils of war for now Fire Force goons, as you'll be called upon again in the near future.

I knew what I was signing up for the minute I decided to open my mouth about upgrading Fire Force on vs battle wiki

 

[Halkum145]

Now that it's over we can start working on 2c mori I guess lol we still won't let you relax @Maitreya

 

[azontr]

Now that it's over we can start working on 2c mori I guess lol we still won't let you relax @Maitreya

2-C Mori is a fever dream, lad.

 

[Maitreya12]

Yeah that was literally what I was gonna do right after this thread. I need to to a new addition thread for Mori’s new forms since the profile’s outdated.

Gimme a couple days for that one.

 

[azontr]

Doing God's work.

 

[Halkum145]

2-C Mori is a fever dream, lad.

I fully believe in Mori getting a 2c scale but I'll discuss this when crt opens

 

[Iiliminal]

2-C fire force isn’t real it can’t hurt you

2-C fire force:

 

[Maitreya12]

I've applied the changes to both Shinra's and Haumea's profiles respectively:

Shinra Kusakabe

Shinra Kusakabe is a Second Class Fire Soldier of the Third Generation. After the death of his mother, and presumably his younger brother, Shinra entered the 8th Special Fire Brigade to achieve his goal of becoming a hero, saving people from the phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion, and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Haumea

Haumea is a Third Generation pyrokinetic who possesses the Adolla Burst and is known as the Second Pillar. She is respectfully referred to as the voice of the Evangelist and is the defacto leader of the White Clad. Having endured the dark, despairing thoughts of mankind throughout her childhood...

vsbattles.fandom.com

@Antvasima you may close this thread now. Thank you all very much for your time and work, it was incredibly appreciated!

 

[Alexander]

I've applied the changes to both Shinra's and Haumea's profiles respectively:

Shinra Kusakabe

Shinra Kusakabe is a Second Class Fire Soldier of the Third Generation. After the death of his mother, and presumably his younger brother, Shinra entered the 8th Special Fire Brigade to achieve his goal of becoming a hero, saving people from the phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion, and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Haumea

Haumea is a Third Generation pyrokinetic who possesses the Adolla Burst and is known as the Second Pillar. She is respectfully referred to as the voice of the Evangelist and is the defacto leader of the White Clad. Having endured the dark, despairing thoughts of mankind throughout her childhood...

vsbattles.fandom.com

@Antvasima you may close this thread now. Thank you all very much for your time and work, it was incredibly appreciated!

woooooooooooooo

 

[Iiliminal]

Shinra > DBS

 

[Deceived3596]

I've applied the changes to both Shinra's and Haumea's profiles respectively:

Shinra Kusakabe

Shinra Kusakabe is a Second Class Fire Soldier of the Third Generation. After the death of his mother, and presumably his younger brother, Shinra entered the 8th Special Fire Brigade to achieve his goal of becoming a hero, saving people from the phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion, and...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Haumea

Haumea is a Third Generation pyrokinetic who possesses the Adolla Burst and is known as the Second Pillar. She is respectfully referred to as the voice of the Evangelist and is the defacto leader of the White Clad. Having endured the dark, despairing thoughts of mankind throughout her childhood...

vsbattles.fandom.com

@Antvasima you may close this thread now. Thank you all very much for your time and work, it was incredibly appreciated!

Fixed some formatting mistakes such as changing "Low Multversal+"" in Shinra's AP, Striking Strength and Durability to "Low Multiverse level", doing the same with Hamuea. I've also added the correct formatting for the new 2-C tiers as well.

 

[Cyberblader90]

the explanations should explain why its 2-c on their pages

 

[Dalesean027]

The profiles desperately need throughly written out justifications and preferably any scaling chains and comsology stuff should be blogged

 

[Maitreya12]

Fixed some formatting mistakes such as changing "Low Multversal+"" in Shinra's AP, Striking Strength and Durability to "Low Multiverse level", doing the same with Hamuea. I've also added the correct formatting for the new 2-C tiers as well.

Thank you God.