Exactly.
Yes. Fan-Translations are trash.
This isn't the first time you're being vocal about your disapproval of our "credibility", and an overall nuisance.
Yes. Imprisoned, likely restrained Queen.
You not reading or something?
So you act like a moron the moment someone criticizes you? Can't accept criticism I see and acts like a bully.
Wow so Admirals grew sooo much stronger in two years time, when they were already Admirals two years ago? What have they been doing for the past few decades ? They aren't newbies like the Strawhats anymore btw, so the same growth rate do not apply to them.
Wow WTF.
The Beast PIrates already lost their captain and suffered a complete defeat in the war, they have already lost fight.
I know, but it still doesn't sit right with me. Marines have been running post-War cleanup in every Arc up to now. However, that would have been impossible in Wano because of the fact that Wano is inaccessible to the outside, so Udon Prison being used as something like a local Impel Down is a sensible extrapolation really
There is actually lots of contradictory evidence that Queen and King were restrained and imprisoned. Here this is one of them I found on WG forums that actually made lots of sense.
You certainly make a great case for Oda prioritizing hype over plot consistencyThere is actually lots of contradictory evidence that Queen and King were restrained and imprisoned. Here this is one of them I found on WG forums that actually made lots of sense.
-Both being Ancient Zoans boasting high durability and recovery. On top of that, Queen has metallic cyborg parts that make his body sturdier, and King has his Lunarian genes that make him more durable. If Jack (who's weaker) can get up within minutes after getting downed in Onigashima, then so can they.
-Following the previous point, 7 days have already passed, making it even more likely they would get up. I'd argue Zoro received more damage from the Hakai in the roof top than whatever damage King and Queen received, and yet, here he is after a week, awake and energetic.
This is a man without a Zoan's durability and recovery speeds:
-There's beer on the outside, implying they were drinking. Also, it doesn't make sense for Green Bull to throw that remark at them to age the booze if they weren't drinking it themselves...
-King and Queen were the ONLY Beast Pirates members to be thrown OUT of Onigashima. With Queen being the ruler of Udon prison, who has been numerously wondering what happened to his turf with Babanuki acting suspicious, it can be easily assumed that they went back there to check up on him AND recover while at it.
-They are NOT inside prison cells. Oda made it clear with the background drawing of the recent chapter that they're inside Udon BUT outside the cells itself.
You can clearly see the sky above:
THIS is what INSIDE of a cell looks like:
THIS is what OUTSIDE of a cell looks like:
-You can see one of the watch towers in the area that were destroyed by Big Mom's O-Lin rampage long ago, further emphasizing this is happening outside cells.
And while we're still looking at this same panel, notice how the cuffs on Luffy's hands are positioned? they're restraining his arm movements by keeping both hands close to each other.
But with King and Queen, their arm positions imply their hands are free and without cuffs...
-Therefore, as everyone else already mentioned, there are NO Seastone cuffs or any sort shackles shown in the scene.
Final Point (nail in the coffin, if you will):
-In every single introduction of Admirals we got, Oda always made sure to showcase their powers and establish them as threats. Whether it's Aokiji dispatching the Monster Trio without sweat, or Kizaru whooping the floor with half the Supernovas in Sabaody, they're always portrayed as intimidating opponents that make quick work of anyone they encounter. It's a no-brainer he would do the same with Ryokugyu too.
So why would he have the victims in this case be weakened? that defeats the whole point of the introduction: to generate hype.
If they were really nerfed, the average reader would say "meh he just finished them off cuz they were weaker anyway".
That's not what Oda wants his readers to think. In fact, Green Bull coming to Wano in the first place wouldn't have been a big deal if he's just picking on weak people like this.
Just look at this dialogue speech bubble and tell me honestly what its saying:
"give it a rest"
give what a rest?
"at my rank, I'd lose face if I let a few commanders like you get the best of me"
get the best of you? so they were TRYING to BEST YOU...?
Tl;dr: Oda wouldn't introduce a new Admiral just to have him shamelessly take out weak opponents. This won't establish his threat and power.
Hype is what drives the series anyways.
A person who is always serious about everything makes me want to cry, lmao
Hahahahaha let's try to be aggressive first when the other person brings out valid arguments and criticism, but when the other person calls us out for it, we say "Don't be so serious!".
Respond normally, if your opinion and evidence are valid they will be ashamed and silent by themselves, without having to be like them and make you no different with them.
How is Char acting like a man-child
. Ratings change all the time. And it's expected from a series that's been going on for so long. Admirals were stated to become stronger, so it makes sense that they did. Marco = Pre ts Admirals, but that does not apply to the current ones, as shown.Yes. They did grow that much stronger. They were literally stated to have grown far more powerful.
No it wasn't. It clearly means they fought back. Why would the Beast Pirates just start attacking Greenbull? He's the one that seems to want to capture them, so if anything, he would be the one to strike first.
It is heavily implied here that the Beast Pirates attacked GB first and GB retaliated. How do you even attack GB if you are all prisoners wtf. And it is basically hard confirmed by his statement here that Admiral postion > Commanders/Officers.
Char was in no way being a bully, or being passive aggressive. He just told you that you can leave, as you seemed to be very upset and seemed to be genuinely worried about our credibility. Instead of attempting to change things, you were just complaining, so clearly you had no intent on doing so. The best thing to do would be to leave.
This is when I thought being a Monkey was better than human
Humans.
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How is Char acting like a man-child
Yes. They did grow that much stronger. They were literally stated to have grown far more powerful.
It's headcanon to say that due to them not being rookies, growth does not apply to them. Have you heard of Haki bloom?
Sengoku was a laid back leader, and at the time, there was no need for admirals to be as strong as they are now, so Sengoku obviously was not as strict. Now that Sakazuki is the Fleet Admiral, and the world is not a much crazier and different place than before, he clearly had no other choice but to grow the Navy's might.
No it wasn't. It clearly means they fought back. Why would the Beast Pirates just start attacking Greenbull? He's the one that seems to want to capture them, so if anything, he would be the one to strike first.
No one is denying that Admirals > Commanders. Literally all Char said was that Queen was likely restrained. Stop malding.
Char was in no way being a bully, or being passive aggressive. He just told you that you can leave, as you seemed to be very upset and seemed to be genuinely worried about our credibility. Instead of attempting to change things, you were just complaining, so clearly you had no intent on doing so. The best thing to do would be to leave.
You don't have to leave. This place is open to discussions and opinions.
You're literally Twitter, blowing things out of proportion.
Oh yeah, I'm the man-child alright.
This was clear as day. Just pointed out how it makes no narrative sense to have a lot of the beast pirates in Wano not doing anything about anything if they're not imprisoned in some way.
Also, dude walked out on a debate with Kachon when he showed them a singular scan proving his point. Bonkers how they think they can "clown on me" on One Piece knowledge when OP communities think WCI Katakuri can beat King and Queen.
This undoes so many wrinkles in my brain
Oh my gosh thats atrocious.
Never make another one piece top 20 list again in your damn life
Jesus that’s gross… Did you not read One Piece?
Cause your list is terrible
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