Full Power Luffy vs Primebeard (8-7-1)

[MonkeyOfLife]

Unless you wanna say Primebeard<Roger or something along those lines good luck arguing this

Well 1. I literally can 2. Has nothing to do with the thread and 3. Still doesn't prove him being above roger

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yee

So Xebec is above Primebeard and Garp.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

So Xebec is above Primebeard and Garp.

Yee

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yee

Thus he's above Roger because Primebeard and Garp are equal to Roger.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Thus he's above Roger because Primebeard and Garp are equal to Roger.

Uhh no... Doesn't work like that at all

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Uhh no... Doesn't work like that at all

HOWW

 

[Darkvie123]

HOWW

Bro remibded me the meme with patrick

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

HOWW

Bro.. Do I really need to explain that?

If for example I have been fighting someone who's relative to me... Then fights someone stronger, does that guy who's stronger than the other guy automatically put him above me? No... Doesn't work like that... As there's no proof of that

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Bro remibded me the meme with patrick

That's exactly what I thought about too

 

[Darkvie123]

Bro.. Do I really need to explain that?

If for example I have been fighting someone who's relative to me... Then fights someone stronger, does that guy who's stronger than the other guy automatically put him above me? No... Doesn't work like that... As there's no proof of that

Rocks is just that guy

 

[Hellscream]

Xebec is never stated to be stronger than roger, you guys are pulling shit out of thin air

 

[DaReaperMan]

Xebec is never stated to be stronger than roger, you guys are pulling shit out of thin air

Are you suggesting Primebeard<Roger?

Your own ****** scan

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Are you suggesting Primebeard<Roger?

Again doesn't work like that


But yes there's also proof of that

 

[DaReaperMan]

Again doesn't work like that


But yes there's also proof of that

If Primebeard fought with Roger for 3 days straight and barely took any damage and vice versa, you'd say that there's any chance Roger is stronger then Primebeard?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If Primebeard fought with Roger for 3 days straight and barely took any damage and vice versa, you'd say that there's any chance Roger is stronger then Primebeard?

Primebeard did take damage, roger didn't

← 白ひげの体に残る傷は、ロジャーとの激戦の証であり、忘れ得ぬ思い出･･･。
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← The scars on Whitebeard's body are proof of the fierce battle with Roger, a memory he will never forget....

 

[Darkvie123]

Xebec is never stated to be stronger than roger, you guys are pulling shit out of thin air

Roger is equal to Prime Garp and Primebeard. Rocks was Roger's greatest foe that he ever faced. Rocks >~ Roger ~ Primebeard ~ Prime Garp

Its also stated in Road To Laughtale that Rocks is The strongest foe Roger ever faced

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Rocks >~ Roger ~ Primebeard ~ Prime Garp

No... It's still xebec ~ roger ~ primebeard ~ garp

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Primebeard did take damage, roger didn't

We don't know which battle this was from.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

We don't know which battle this was from.

Wouldn't matter.

Roger no scar, whitebeard has

 

[Hellscream]

Roger is equal to Prime Garp and Primebeard. Rocks was Roger's greatest foe that he ever faced. Rocks >~ Roger ~ Primebeard ~ Prime Garp

for the 10th time since when does greatest adversary = being stronger?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

They are trying to do some wierd dumb bs argument in trying to say since hes stronger than the other people roger is relative to then that must mean he's also stronger the roger

 

[DaReaperMan]

Primebeard did take damage, roger didn't

Wouldn't matter.

Roger no scar, whitebeard has

How do you know Roger didn't get any scars?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

How do you know Roger didn't get any scars?

Because there's no statements or showings of that.

Prove that he has scars from whitebeard then if you believe that

 

[Darkvie123]

for the 10th time since when does greatest adversary = being stronger?

Road To Laughtale literally says Strongest Adversary

Anyways lets discuss this in the One Piece General Discussion and not here since its a Luffy vs WB and doesnt have anything to do with what we are discussing rn

 

[DaMonkeMan]

for the 10th time since when does greatest adversary = being stronger?

Open it in a new tab and zoom in if you need..

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yee nah not dealing with these humans who are consistently wrong nearly everytime I see them

 

[Hellscream]

And how does that translate in xebec being stronger than roger exactly?

 

[Darkvie123]

Open it in a new tab and zoom in if you need..

Also this

 

[Hellscream]

Yeah his strongest opponent so far, how does that translate in him being stronger than rogers???

You know xebec was defeated right?

 

[Hellscream]

"and perhaps his greatest

"Perhaps"

you forgot that part as well

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Can you gave the win conditions of both ?

And stop arguing about xebec being superior to Roger, even if is truth, the difference is ******* minuscule, they are even, they are rivals is like Goku vs Vegeta, there is a difference? Yes, but that is not enought to say Xebec wins 100% of the time and argue about Xebec---> Roger

 

[Darkvie123]

"and perhaps his greatest

"Perhaps"

you forgot that part as well

Sengoku says perhaps. After that Road To Laughtale confirms it

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Can you gave the win conditions of both ?

And stop arguing about xebec being superior to Roger, even if is truth, the difference is ******* minuscule, they are even, they are rivals is like Goku vs Vegeta, there is a difference? Yes, but that is not enought to say Xebec wins 100% of the time and argue about Xebec---> Roger

Primebeard has shockwaves that may clap Luffy a little if he hits him while using superior Haki.
Primebeard has pretty great endurance and stamina.
Skilled with his naginata.
Etc.
Luffy has Empowerment to close any potential AP gaps, can close the Haki gap in minutes, has Toon Force and Transmutation, etc.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Can you gave the win conditions of both ?

And stop arguing about xebec being superior to Roger, even if is truth, the difference is ******* minuscule, they are even, they are rivals is like Goku vs Vegeta, there is a difference? Yes, but that is not enought to say Xebec wins 100% of the time and argue about Xebec---> Roger

Primebeard stronger arm haki and conquerors haki I think, stronger ap, better endurance, More experience, spam quakes

Luffy observation haki, more versatile, maybe more stamina (not in gear 5 tho) and a chance of his haki becoming similar to whitebeard

 

[Darkvie123]

Can you gave the win conditions of both ?

And stop arguing about xebec being superior to Roger, even if is truth, the difference is ******* minuscule, they are even, they are rivals is like Goku vs Vegeta, there is a difference? Yes, but that is not enought to say Xebec wins 100% of the time and argue about Xebec---> Roger

Anyways you're right Hellscream we can discuss about Rocks and Roger in the discussion thread if u want i dont eant to derail the thread here anymore


Luffys wincons:
Hax
Stat Amps
Haki advantage
Dura Neg
Empowerement
Revive
Adaptive
Flight

WB Wincons:
Dura Neg with Shockwaves
Possibly Endurance
Andd i dont rly remember what wincons WB had here. I voted for Luffy based of Kings Reasons

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yee... Don't listen to dark

 

[Darkvie123]

Yee... Don't listen to dark

Darkness might suck you up Monkey

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Darkness might suck you up Monkey

Life.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Darkness might suck you up Monkey

PAUSE

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I can see why Luffy wins, his development in combat could close any gap he has with Whitebeard, who right now is victim of "flashback only so 0 information of how I can adapt to fights or how good are my 3 hakis"

I see it as inconclusive with a slight Luffy edge