Kizaru was literally trying/being serious and screaming... Got cut and said how how troublesome Rayleigh is.
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Rayleigh is holding kizaru back as a distraction to let the strawhat escape while doing that not paying any attention to kizaru...
TBF, WB's crew warned him about bot removing the medical treatment just before marineford & WB being much older there while Crocus said Roger was still in perfect shape when fighting Shiki in episode 0. Either Roger was in good shape too when he fought WB(likey as WB commented on him looking pretty good) or anytime his sickness would cause him trouble, they would call off the fighting for a break.
Yeah, you're right. Also if Old Rayleigh<Kizaru or Old Rayleigh=Kizaru(+better stamania), then how the heck did Kizaru fail to arrest him?Rayleigh is holding kizaru back as a distraction to let the strawhat escape while doing that not paying any attention to kizaru...
Not once was kizaru able to do a thing to rayleigh, unless you count stamina
Now bye... You literally can't bring up any argument so don't even try because I won't respond to bs or your bs on what I say is bs
He is crazy
What?
Nah man you're reaching. You're acting like rayleigh parrying him a few times means he's stronger.Kizaru was literally trying/being serious and screaming... Got cut and said how how troublesome Rayleigh is.
Gets stopped
Gets stopped again
Rayleigh is holding kizaru back as a distraction to let the strawhat escape while doing that not paying any attention to kizaru...
Not once was kizaru able to do a thing to rayleigh, unless you count stamina
Now bye... You literally can't bring up any argument so don't even try because I won't respond to bs or your bs on what I say is bs
Because their fight was brief while they can actually fight for a longer time before ever losing.
That is the only placement I have contention with. If marco has weaker armament haki than whitebeard then I'll gladly put him lower.
No yamato is just that strong, she was the only one other than luffy who can actually 1v1 kaido while he's fighting seriously.
Elaborate? If you're talking about dudes who can fight kaido then this doesn't contradict it as many of those in that list can harm kaido easily.
Man just stay silent.
Well... That was a lie...
More support of
No? My question is well elaborated.
Sure, bye
Nah man there is a difference between fodder marines stabbing through whitebeard with swords and oden cutting kaido and scarring him for life mentally and physically. You have to realize that kinemon and four others despite being able to pierce kaido are still not able to actually wound him even when four of them together and they still can't match oden's 1 attack.
WB’s Buso > Akainu’s Buso > Marco’s Buso
A rusty old shit stamina Rayleigh cut Kizaru’s face and matched him, and said he could’ve done more in his prime.
You put King over Akainu and Ace.
And was noticeably superior.
Marco flat out didn’t even fight since the payback war, and that’s when BB beat him.
Harming Kaido easily doesn’t mean you can fight him.
This is not true, prime oden surpasses whitebeard because of his statement that no one can beat kaido except him and kaido got even stronger, and that's what marco scales to, this scaling chain looks like this.
This is some basic headass crack scaling.
Hell no
How in the hell does Marco scale to Dragon Kaido.
Says who?
Says who?
“Better hax” lasers and a light form?
This is crack.
While tired and holding up an island.
“Got clapped silly” you definitely don’t read one piece.
Rocks is stated to be Roger’s strongest foe.
You do know Kaidou is at the ends of his stamina?
I’m praying you’re not saying Marco is blatantly stronger than Blackbeard.
Fodder marines harmed WhiteBeard after he was dying. WB just a few years before was a tank.
Oda supervised it, the author used his notes for it, officially published by Shueisha, etc.
He literally did not say that. He stated verbatim "If I don't manage to knock down kaido, no one of our time will succeed". That clearly in ludes whitebeard.This is some basic headass crack scaling.
Oden did not say “nobody can beat him but me”. He said “If I can’t beat him, nobody here can”.
Kaido isn’t strong because of his AP only, he’s strong because of his stamina.
Everyone is acting like Luffy and Kaidou are Zeus and Chronos when Kaido is known to be a stamina tank, not an AP god
Hell no
How in the hell does Marco scale to Dragon Kaido.
How in the hell is young dragon Kaido superior to current base Kaido.
Base Kaidou has nothing that puts him above WhiteBeard with his DF.
Marco couldn’t put down Akainu with help. WhiteBeard 2 shot him.
Haki being a factor isn’t even realistic. “Stronger Haki puts him higher on the ladder” you know how Haki works?
WB without Haki has better feats than Marco with Haki.
Marco is not on that level.
Says who?
Says who?
“Better hax” lasers and a light form?
Law has the best hax in the verse and he’s not even top 5 on your list.
This is crack.
King scales to Zoro? Yes. Does King scale to Zoro with ridiculous Enma usage? Hell no.
Zoro and King have no scaling at all to Law and Kid. Kid 1v1’d big mom. Putting those guys there is hilarious.
Killer is comparable to Zoro and they both cut base Kaido alongside each other.
While tired and holding up an island.
This is like comparing G2nd Luffy to Doflamingo while Doffy was holding up the birdcage and fighting Law at the same time after several fatal injuries
“Got clapped silly” you definitely don’t read one piece.
Shiki fought them so well to the point where even the narrator said Marineford was destroyed before they could put him down.
Rocks is stated to be Roger’s strongest foe.
That means he’s above Shiki, WhiteBeard, Chinjao, and many more.
WhiteBeard in his sick self is capable of fighting Kaidou. Those guys in their primes can fight Rocks.
You do know Kaidou is at the ends of his stamina?
Kaidou is weaker than he was beginning of the raid.
Luffy’s only having above an average chance right now cause Kaidou is at the ends of his stamina.
I’m praying you’re not saying Marco is blatantly stronger than Blackbeard.
Fodder marines harmed WhiteBeard after he was dying. WB just a few years before was a tank.
Oda supervised it, the author used his notes for it, officially published by Shueisha, etc.
Someone would disagree with this statement. Someone like say, Rayleigh
He says he could do more if it weren't for hus age, I interpret that as him saying he can last longer fighting and it's consistent with the statements of him being as strong as he was in his prime.
That's the same thing
I quote the vivre cards
This is why he's called the strongest creature.
Marco stopped Kaido's boro breath with a technique that is meant for high dura.
This is not true at all. Haoshoku has different levels, which is why base Luffy would get murdered by Hybrid Kaidou but Hao Luffy can match Hao Kaido.
Marco.
Whitebeard is superior to him in every category other than durability.
Prime Rayleigh physically being the same as a rusty Rayleigh is a crazy statement.
Dura neg feats are dogshit. It's dura neg for a reason.
You didn't read Wano.
He 1v1'd her with 3 homies for several chapters
This is not normally. Idk who is feeding you this information but it's very wrong.
Prior to hit dura neg, he cut base Kaidou alongside Zoro, which Kaidou applauded him for.
Yamato blatantly said Kaidou is weakening.
You can fight people without hurting them. Marco vs Big Mom. Oden vs Whitebeard.
I'd take a statement of "Roger's greatest foe".
The dude was already losing his grip to Luffy before he even pulled out gears in 1027.
Payback War Teach absolutely washed Marco, and that same Teach thinks of Kaidou as a dreaded monster.
Nah. He's just trying to apply his Dragon Ball logic to One Piece, and is failing hard in doing so.
Ace novel
It's literally not. He's specifying their era, and emphasizing later that the pirates who will appear 20 years later are the ones who will beat kaido.
... Huh?
Yeah her promethius and zues are stronger than her base form punches.
Shiki above Luffy makes me wanna hurl
Its Prime Shiki who was stated Equal to Roger
Forgot about him..... shiii i would put him below Mihawk or in the same place as Mihawk even tho i consider Mihawk > Shanks
I mean we lack so many feats of Prime Rayleigh... for nowThink he meant prime but still
also the Rayleigh downplay…
Under Kizaru…
Interchangable actually i coukd put him above Kizaru with no problem but its hars to make a Top 30 List personally... since OP depends more on matchups and etc
Good job
