Really an one off thing. I think Monster Point should be in the "top" of the previous tier, because he wouldn't be able to fight or harm in any significant way both Queen or Sanji, thus, not being in the same ballpark
"my attacks aren't working on him" is not a stamina issue. Zoro made Kaido bleed, doesn't mean he is in the same ballpark.
DJ Sanji made Queen cough up blood and Queen said "we didn't even feel that".
Wow look! Denjiro drew blood from Kaido! He should scale fully to Kaido despite obvious statements and showings in the manga!
Ryuou dura negWow look! Denjiro drew blood from Kaido! He should scale fully to Kaido despite obvious statements and showings in the manga!
Well I think the difference between Sanji and Chopper's situation is that Queen wasn't actually trying against Chopper and was playing along. In no way does Chopper actually scale to Queen imo.
who tf said he should scale fullyWow look! Denjiro drew blood from Kaido! He should scale fully to Kaido despite obvious statements and showings in the manga!
Playing along by letting Chopper draw blood, though? Queen had no way of knowing that with the first slap regardless, so there's no reason he'd be already lowering himself to Chopper's level just to get damaged
Wait why?
Taking a single pill does not take long lol, and neither does his transformation? You're acting as if Chopper went and turned super saiyan 3, and Queen should've seen that coming. Chopper's transformations aren't necessarily long. In the manga it's never showcased to be a slow transformation either
Queen attacking -> Marco grabbing -> Queen babying -> Marco talking -> Chopper responding -> Chopper eating -> Chopper transforming -> Chopper attacks
Marco grabs Queen -> Queen Caught off guard -> Marco says "Pop Him" -> Chopper says "Thanks" and then transforms and goes straight into a punch.
You forgot King.
My bad one moment.
That was true at one point in time so that analogy doesn't even work. This is post time skip marco. he has feats such as matching big mom with promethius and stopping an attack from dragon kaido, this is their scaling. Whitebeard << conquerors whitebeard < CoC + gura Whitebeard < Prime Conqueror Oden. This means Whitebeard < Whitebeard + Gura < Oden = Kaido < Dragon Kaido < Prime conqueror oden. Current dragon kaido > Dragon kaido that fought oden and Big mom with homies should be ~ dragon kaido. This means marco should be around the same level as conqueror oden who is above whitebeard at his best. Marco also has regeneration but I could honestly see a fight go either way, but as I am writing this, whitebeard likely has the stronger armament which negates marco's regen so if that is true then marco should be lower.
This list is very bad.
Maybe they thought that because Kizaru didn't wanna deal with Benn idk
So... What show did you read or watch? Ain't no way it was one piece
The analogy only acknowledges prime, Fluffy.
FLUFFY, YOU ARE UNINTELLIGENT, AND IGNORANT WHEN IT COMES TO ONE PIECE POWERSCALING.
It is not and I will defend it right here right now.
This is also another valid reason.
What is that supposed to prove? He matched borsalino but was getting tired while in his prime he wouldn't get tired. I just see no reason to put him above borsalino when all he has in his prime is more stamina, but borsalino has better hax.So... What show did you read or watch? Ain't no way it was one piece
Don't even try debating this... Also when you even said..
I will ignore the first paragraph because I acknowledge us as friends.
That's wholesome
Yes, it's because we're friends that I know you're duuuubm af
In any significant way, sure. But it does affect one's overall abilities, as shown with Marineford WB.
Armament Infused.
2, the third was a party.
The Oden that cut Kaido wasn't at his prime, he has spent 5 years dancing, and doing nothing.
No wholesomeness, Fluffy Person is my greatest enemy.
I may be unable to read, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong pokemon man.Yes, it's because we're friends that I know you're duuuubm af
In any significant way, sure. But it does affect one's overall abilities, as shown with Marineford WB.
Armament Infused.
2, the third was a party.
Roger still no sold Oden casually, then proceeded to actually try against Whitebeard. Which made Oden, again, wet his pants.
Roger ~ Whitebeard > Casual Roger => Near-Prime Oden.
The Oden that cut Kaido wasn't at his prime, he has spent 5 years dancing, and doing nothing.
The context of the statement didn't include Roger and WB at all, it was about the Wano Samurai
What's a paper weight?
He matched big mom with her promethius and completely stopped a bro breath that hurts gear 4 luffy, e even no sold king and queen. this is not an outlier for him.
Is that what a paper weight is- okay I'm sorry.
I gave you a reason why I think so, he didn't use conquerors but he did use armament in which case he wouldn't need to use it if he couldn't sufficiently harm him physically. It's actually you who gotta prove tbat he was holding back.
Very convincing counter argument. I thought you were better than this..... Ok nah, actually trolling
You want me to describe what happened when it's right in front of you, read and look at the scans. Old rayleigh is shown much more to be able to beat kizaru
He was matching him but was getting tired while borsalino was fine. Are you trying to say old rayleigh is above kizaru?You want me to describe what happened when it's right in front of you, read and look at the scans. Old rayleigh is shown much more to be able to beat kizaru
I thought you were better than this... You clearly know you are wrong and just want to create arguments and drama... Hell nah will I waste time with that
Yes.
That's the only thing you were paying attention to? Pay attention to everything but that
There's nothing that indicates that man, they were matching each other and no one had an advantage over the other. Only rayleigh was getting tired because of old age.
just leave the thread if you find it annoying... It's that easy 
