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No I do but I don't feel like yelling through a keyboardI'm surprised you have nth to say about Shiki being that low
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No I do but I don't feel like yelling through a keyboardI'm surprised you have nth to say about Shiki being that low
Maybe the Marco part, but I feel like Sanji and Zoro are pretty clear of Yamato.Unlikely
Lemme know when they can get up fine after enduring a lot of blows from and matching blows with Kaido.Maybe the Marco part, but I feel like Sanji and Zoro are pretty clear of Yamato.
She's got endurance, but so do Zoro and Sanji
She outranges Sanji.She's got ice hax, but Sanji has heat and Zoro has the AP to bypass it like Kaido did with Thunder Bagua
She literally dislocated Hybrid Kaido's jaw with one blow that didn't even have Hao.She's got AP, but Zoro has better AP and Sanji has regen
Her toughness in Hybrid let her eat 5 Hao Infused attacks from a pissed Hybrid Kaido.She's got Zoan toughness, but Zoro has Zoro toughness and Sanji has heat vastly beyond her heat resistance
Thunder BaguaShe's got speed, but both Zoro and Sanji are much faster than her
DamnZoro has Zoro toughness
Sounds like the next match-up you should do is a Yamato vs. Zoro rematch. I doubt I'll be convinced to vote differently than I did last time, but just a suggestion.Lemme know when they can get up fine after enduring a lot of blows from and matching blows with Kaido.
Zoro needed Asura (albeit he was badly wounded from Hakai) just to match Hybrid Kaido's non-Hao blows.
She outranges Sanji.
She literally dislocated Hybrid Kaido's jaw with one blow that didn't even have Hao.
And her BASE Hao matched Hybrid Kaido's Hao.
Her toughness in Hybrid let her eat 5 Hao Infused attacks from a pissed Hybrid Kaido.
Thunder Bagua
No I do but I don't feel like yelling through a keyboard
Endurance ≠ Strength of the attacks you can take, but the level of damage you take. Moot point.Lemme know when they can get up fine after enduring a lot of blows from and matching blows with Kaido.
Zoro with 20-30 broken bones needed Asura to overpower Kaido's non-hao blows.Zoro needed Asura (albeit he was badly wounded from Hakai) just to match Hybrid Kaido's non-Hao blows.
How? Poele A Frire Spectre exists. Also, why would that matter?She outranges Sanji.
Never happened.She literally dislocated Hybrid Kaido's jaw with one blow
Scan?And her BASE Hao matched Hybrid Kaido's Hao.
Hits from blunt force ≠ Hits from swords.Her toughness in Hybrid let her eat 5 Hao Infused attacks from a pissed Hybrid Kaido.
What about it?Thunder Bagua
True, but she still went 1v1 vs a Kaido who was not holding back at all and wasn't even that exhausted.Endurance ≠ Strength of the attacks you can take, but the level of damage you take. Moot point.
I admitted that he was badly injured.Zoro with 20-30 broken bones needed Asura to overpower Kaido's non-hao blows.
1. KoH is Hao Coating, just wanted to note that.What's to say that Yamato can survive Hao Coating King of Hell Style Shisi Sonson, let alone Soaring Jigoku or Asura?
She has more ranged attacks, and better ones.How? Poele A Frire Spectre exists. Also, why would that matter?
Yes it did, and the anime confirmed it.Never happened.
It's literally their first clash at the start of their fight.Scan?
But it's an indicator that she can take a lot of hits from people >= Post Mink Zoro's best abilities and keep on swingingHits from blunt force ≠ Hits from swords.
OP characters can survive massive slashes like that frequently, and her ice can block his swords.Kaido's hits may have been stronger, but Zoro's attacks would deal more damage and are much, much more lethal. If Yamato gets hit with any good attack from Zoro, Yamato is at huge risk of bleeding out from a huge gash in her torso.
Thunder Bagua is faster than Sanji.What about it?
Besides one outlier feat compared to the rest of her showings (similar to that base Luffy matching Hybrid Lucci feat you tried using a while back) she never matched his physical blows.matching blows with Kaido.
Neither of these happened.She literally dislocated Hybrid Kaido's jaw with one blow that didn't even have Hao.
And her BASE Hao matched Hybrid Kaido's Hao.
Katakuri is much faster than Akainu who treated Marco and Vista like dirts though. So Katakuri at best is stronger than marco and equal to King or edge him out.Look, I get it. You like Katakuri. But that doesn't change the fact that there is no relevant scaling to put him anywhere near King. At best, you could say that he is stronger than Perospero, who had to be beaten by Sulong Neko - A character that scales higher than Jack - which would put Katakuri somewhere around Queen
This is still debatable. The evidence for Marco scaling to pre TS Admirals is the fact that he did injure Aokiji. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he was absolutely equal to them
So Akainu got powercrept hard. HmmKatakuri got power crept so bad
Apoo had to use his strongest attack to KO Luffy.Luffy and Katakuri
Luffy and everybody in the Beast Pirates or in Wano but King
1. No Shuron HakkeKaido who was not holding back at all
Why would he not be able to?2. He hasn't been shown yet to stack it with Goken or Asura.
For example?She has more ranged attacks, and better ones.
Proof?Thunder Bagua is faster than Sanji.
You mean G4 Luffy?Besides one outlier feat compared to the rest of her showings (similar to that base Luffy matching Hybrid Lucci feat you tried using a while back)
Her first clash with him was literally both of them.Neither of these happened.
Can you either make your images smaller or put them into links? It's blowing up the thread and it's annoying scrolling through.snip
Nope. it will make you see easier how much slower Akainu treating Marco and Vista like dirts showing Marco is low diff material for Katakuri.Can you either make your images smaller or put them into links? It's blowing up the thread and it's annoying scrolling through.
Also stop sending the same images over and over again.
scan?She literally dislocated Hybrid Kaido's jaw with one blow that didn't even have Hao.
This is true, but there is a difference. At no point during the fight was Kaido actually trying to kill herHer toughness in Hybrid let her eat 5 Hao Infused attacks from a pissed Hybrid Kaido.
You mean G4 Luffy?
And yes, he was superior, but she still blocked his attacks, and knocked him down once.
Her first clash with him was literally both of them.
And she did dislocate his jaw:
I'll just RVR you bro. It's really damn annoying.Nope. it will make you see easier how much slower Akainu treating Marco and Vista like dirts showing Marco is low diff material for Katakuri.
I'll just RVR you bro. It's really damn annoying.
Much better.Happy?
I think Zoro actually got significantly stronger during the fight with King. Like, Yamato is probably superior to rooftop Zoro, but post King Zoro might be stronger than herZoro needed Asura (albeit he was badly wounded from Hakai) just to match Hybrid Kaido's non-Hao blows.
I'm talking about Yamato, she never matched his physical blows.You mean G4 Luffy?
And yes, he was superior, but she still blocked his attacks, and knocked him down once.
Where did they clash, show the scan.Her first clash with him was literally both of them.
And she did dislocate his jaw:
That is a huge reachAnd she did dislocate his jaw:
Where did they clash, show the scan.
The anime supports it, there's literally a crick sound as he relocates his jaw.Not sure about that, I'll get back to you on it.
Can you show it? Normally when anime characters dislocate their jaw, they are shown to put it back in place by handThe anime supports it, there's literally a crick sound as he relocates his jaw.
Clear outlier.End of chapter 1016, they both use Hao.
It literally scales to a higher speed value.I'm still confused on how Yamato's Thunder Bagua is faster than Zoro and Sanji.
Her normal attacks Hybrid downscale from Hybrid Kaido. The same Hybrid Kaido that Asura Zoro could clash with, and from what we know Asura doesn't give a speed boost.
This already puts a heavily injured Rooftop Zoro at comparable speeds to Hybrid Yamato without Thunder Bagua.
Zoro likely got overall faster after he took the Mink Drug, so he should be at least as fast as he was when he was injured, but then he has attacks like Shishi Sonson which put him over Yamato's Thunder Bagua.
Hybrid Yamato ~< Hybrid Kaido ~ Injured Rooftop Zoro < Rooftop Zoro ~< Mink Drug Zoro (blitz)< Shishi Sonson
Hybrid Yamato (blitz)< Thunder Bagua.
As for Sanji, his is even crazier.
IJ > DJ + Superspeed >(blitz stack on blitz) DJ >(blitz Queen) Superspeed Sanji >(blitz) Base Sanji >~ Queen~< Marco ~ Flame on King ~ Mink Drug Zoro
Like this shouldn't even be a competition in speed.
Not really sure what you mean, considering that her base Hao also made Base Kaido bleed with Snakeman Luffy's help.Clear outlier.
Look at 2nd and 3rd panel here:Can you show it? Normally when anime characters dislocate their jaw, they are shown to put it back in place by hand
My man Yamato >>>>>>>Maybe the Marco part, but I feel like Sanji and Zoro are pretty clear of Yamato.
She's got endurance, but so do Zoro and Sanji
She's got ice hax, but Sanji has heat and Zoro has the AP to bypass it like Kaido did with Thunder Bagua
She's got AP, but Zoro has better AP and Sanji has regen
She's got durability, but Zoro has dura neg with Goken and Sanji has dura neg with DJ and IJ
She's got Zoan toughness, but Zoro has Zoro toughness and Sanji has heat vastly beyond her heat resistance
She's got speed, but both Zoro and Sanji are much faster than her
I don't really see how she can win against either of them.
Proof that it wasn't just Snakeman Luffy?Not really sure what you mean, considering that her base Hao also made Base Kaido bleed with Snakeman Luffy's help.
It literally scales to a higher speed value.
Not really sure what you mean, considering that her base Hao also made Base Kaido bleed with Snakeman Luffy's help.
Look at 2nd and 3rd panel here:
I don't see them both using Hao in that scan, sorry.End of chapter 1016, they both use Hao.
Wasn't my point and tbh I don't really care if the anime supports something. I was referring to that actual SFX and after looking into it that is a valid SFX for bones potentially breaking, although not sure how impressive that feat is considering Pre-Udon Gear 3rd Luffy did the same as Kachon mentioned & even Queen was able to do the same and more to Big Mom.The anime supports it, there's literally a crick sound as he relocates his jaw.
The lightning?I don't see them both using Hao in that scan, sorry.
Neither Pre-Udon Luffy or Queen broke or dislocated their bones.Wasn't my point and tbh I don't really care if the anime supports something. I was referring to that actual SFX and after looking into it that is a valid SFX for bones potentially breaking, although not sure how impressive that feat is considering Pre-Udon Gear 3rd Luffy did the same as Kachon mentioned & even Queen was able to do the same and more to Big Mom.
And Yamato did to Kaido?Neither Pre-Udon Luffy or Queen broke or dislocated their bones.
What about it? I see Kaidou preparing a Hao attack and clearly landing it but there's nothing in that scan for Yamato.The lightning?
The exact same evidence you're using to suggest Yamato did that happens with both Gear 3rd & Queen here:Neither Pre-Udon Luffy or Queen broke or dislocated their bones.
Anime supports Yamato having lightning on her kanabo.What about it? I see Kaidou preparing a Hao attack and clearly landing it but there's nothing in that scan for Yamato.
The difference is that there's no visual evidence in those 2 scans above of anything happening to their bones.The exact same evidence you're using to suggest Yamato did that happens with both Gear 3rd & Queen here:
When??we openly see him having to relocate it.
When he moves his jaw back and we hear the crick sound.When??
Same way that people can crack their knuckles or neck?When he moves his jaw back and we hear the crick sound.