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Strongest One Piece characters RANKED (Manga spoilers)
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Maybe the Marco part, but I feel like Sanji and Zoro are pretty clear of Yamato.
She's got endurance, but so do Zoro and Sanji
She's got ice hax, but Sanji has heat and Zoro has the AP to bypass it like Kaido did with Thunder Bagua
She's got AP, but Zoro has better AP and Sanji has regen
She's got durability, but Zoro has dura neg with Goken and Sanji has dura neg with DJ and IJ
She's got Zoan toughness, but Zoro has Zoro toughness and Sanji has heat vastly beyond her heat resistance
She's got speed, but both Zoro and Sanji are much faster than her
I don't really see how she can win against either of them.
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Lemme know when they can get up fine after enduring a lot of blows from and matching blows with Kaido.
Zoro needed Asura (albeit he was badly wounded from Hakai) just to match Hybrid Kaido's non-Hao blows.
She outranges Sanji.
She literally dislocated Hybrid Kaido's jaw with one blow that didn't even have Hao.
And her BASE Hao matched Hybrid Kaido's Hao.
Her toughness in Hybrid let her eat 5 Hao Infused attacks from a pissed Hybrid Kaido.
Thunder Bagua
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Sounds like the next match-up you should do is a Yamato vs. Zoro rematch. I doubt I'll be convinced to vote differently than I did last time, but just a suggestion.
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Endurance ≠ Strength of the attacks you can take, but the level of damage you take. Moot point.
Zoro with 20-30 broken bones needed Asura to overpower Kaido's non-hao blows.
What's to say that Yamato can survive Hao Coating King of Hell Style Shisi Sonson, let alone Soaring Jigoku or Asura?
How? Poele A Frire Spectre exists. Also, why would that matter?
Never happened.
Scan?
Hits from blunt force ≠ Hits from swords.
Kaido's hits may have been stronger, but Zoro's attacks would deal more damage and are much, much more lethal. If Yamato gets hit with any good attack from Zoro, Yamato is at huge risk of bleeding out from a huge gash in her torso.
What about it?
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True, but she still went 1v1 vs a Kaido who was not holding back at all and wasn't even that exhausted.
I admitted that he was badly injured.
1. KoH is Hao Coating, just wanted to note that.
2. He hasn't been shown yet to stack it with Goken or Asura.
She has more ranged attacks, and better ones.
It would give her control over the battlefield.
Yes it did, and the anime confirmed it.
It's literally their first clash at the start of their fight.
But it's an indicator that she can take a lot of hits from people >= Post Mink Zoro's best abilities and keep on swinging
OP characters can survive massive slashes like that frequently, and her ice can block his swords.
Thunder Bagua is faster than Sanji.
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Besides one outlier feat compared to the rest of her showings (similar to that base Luffy matching Hybrid Lucci feat you tried using a while back) she never matched his physical blows.
Neither of these happened.
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Katakuri is much faster than Akainu who treated Marco and Vista like dirts though. So Katakuri at best is stronger than marco and equal to King or edge him out.
So Akainu got powercrept hard. Hmm
Apoo had to use his strongest attack to KO Luffy.Luffy and Katakuri
Luffy and everybody in the Beast Pirates or in Wano but King
Katakuri troll move was enough to KO Luffy.
Look at Luffy lying helpless on the ground without moving here.
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1. No Shuron Hakke
2. No Future Sight
3. No Bagua Variations other than Thunder Bagua
"not holding back at all"
Why would he not be able to?
For example?
Proof?
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You mean G4 Luffy?
And yes, he was superior, but she still blocked his attacks, and knocked him down once.
Her first clash with him was literally both of them.
And she did dislocate his jaw:
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Can you either make your images smaller or put them into links? It's blowing up the thread and it's annoying scrolling through.
Also stop sending the same images over and over again.
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Nope. it will make you see easier how much slower Akainu treating Marco and Vista like dirts showing Marco is low diff material for Katakuri.
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scan?
This is true, but there is a difference. At no point during the fight was Kaido actually trying to kill her
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I'll just RVR you bro. It's really damn annoying.
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Much better.
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I think Zoro actually got significantly stronger during the fight with King. Like, Yamato is probably superior to rooftop Zoro, but post King Zoro might be stronger than her
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I'm talking about Yamato, she never matched his physical blows.
Where did they clash, show the scan.
Not sure about that, I'll get back to you on it.
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Even comparing raw damage, Rooftop Zoro with Tatsumaki could give Dragon Kaido a giant gash, but Yamato, when given a direct hit couldn't deal damage above what Sulong Inuarashi could do.
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That is a huge reach
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End of chapter 1016, they both use Hao.
The anime supports it, there's literally a crick sound as he relocates his jaw.
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Can you show it? Normally when anime characters dislocate their jaw, they are shown to put it back in place by hand
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I'm still confused on how Yamato's Thunder Bagua is faster than Zoro and Sanji.
Her normal attacks Hybrid downscale from Hybrid Kaido. The same Hybrid Kaido that Asura Zoro could clash with, and from what we know Asura doesn't give a speed boost.
This already puts a heavily injured Rooftop Zoro at comparable speeds to Hybrid Yamato without Thunder Bagua.
Zoro likely got overall stronger after he took the Mink Drug, so he should be at least as fast as he was when he was injured, but then he has attacks like Shishi Sonson which put him over Yamato's Thunder Bagua.
Hybrid Yamato ~< Hybrid Kaido ~ Injured Rooftop Zoro < Rooftop Zoro ~< Mink Drug Zoro (blitz)< Shishi Sonson
Hybrid Yamato (blitz)< Thunder Bagua.
As for Sanji, his is even crazier.
IJ > DJ + Superspeed >(blitz stack on blitz) DJ >(blitz Queen) Superspeed Sanji >(blitz) Base Sanji >~ Queen~< Marco ~ Flame on King ~ Mink Drug Zoro
Like this shouldn't even be a competition in speed.
Her normal attacks Hybrid downscale from Hybrid Kaido. The same Hybrid Kaido that Asura Zoro could clash with, and from what we know Asura doesn't give a speed boost.
This already puts a heavily injured Rooftop Zoro at comparable speeds to Hybrid Yamato without Thunder Bagua.
Zoro likely got overall stronger after he took the Mink Drug, so he should be at least as fast as he was when he was injured, but then he has attacks like Shishi Sonson which put him over Yamato's Thunder Bagua.
Hybrid Yamato ~< Hybrid Kaido ~ Injured Rooftop Zoro < Rooftop Zoro ~< Mink Drug Zoro (blitz)< Shishi Sonson
Hybrid Yamato (blitz)< Thunder Bagua.
As for Sanji, his is even crazier.
IJ > DJ + Superspeed >(blitz stack on blitz) DJ >(blitz Queen) Superspeed Sanji >(blitz) Base Sanji >~ Queen~< Marco ~ Flame on King ~ Mink Drug Zoro
Like this shouldn't even be a competition in speed.
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Clear outlier.
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It literally scales to a higher speed value.
Not really sure what you mean, considering that her base Hao also made Base Kaido bleed with Snakeman Luffy's help.
Look at 2nd and 3rd panel here:
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My man Yamato >>>>>>>
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Proof that it wasn't just Snakeman Luffy?
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I don't see anything to conclude she dislocated his jaw
If anything, the fact that he is independently able to move his jaw after the blow proves that it wasn't fully dislocated. Perhaps shifted out of the joint on one side at best. This is still impressive though but I don't know how it compares against Zoro
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I don't see them both using Hao in that scan, sorry.
Wasn't my point and tbh I don't really care if the anime supports something. I was referring to that actual SFX and after looking into it that is a valid SFX for bones potentially breaking, although not sure how impressive that feat is considering Pre-Udon Gear 3rd Luffy did the same as Kachon mentioned & even Queen was able to do the same and more to Big Mom.
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The lightning?
Neither Pre-Udon Luffy or Queen broke or dislocated their bones.
If Law/Kidd breaking a Yonko's bones is impressive, so is Yamato breaking/dislocating Kaido's jaw.
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And Yamato did to Kaido?
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What about it? I see Kaidou preparing a Hao attack and clearly landing it but there's nothing in that scan for Yamato.
The exact same evidence you're using to suggest Yamato did that happens with both Gear 3rd & Queen here:
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Anime supports Yamato having lightning on her kanabo.
And otherwise, that'd mean that Yamato can at least clash with Hybrid Hao Kaido in base, which greatly supports her High 6-A Base.
The difference is that there's no visual evidence in those 2 scans above of anything happening to their bones.The exact same evidence you're using to suggest Yamato did that happens with both Gear 3rd & Queen here:
With Kaido's jaw, we openly see him having to relocate it.
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When??
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When he moves his jaw back and we hear the crick sound.
It's much clearer in the anime, as shown in the reddit thing I linked to.
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Same way that people can crack their knuckles or neck?
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