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Well iirc people here don't differentiate between different AP from the same character right? I remember bringing up last time that not all of Big Mom's attacks were 6-B, and got shut down for it.
They did. That's why Luffy and Sanji sharing a value in deflecting Big Mom's attack at Reiju was denied. (I was the one who brought that point up and it got agreed on >> miraculous)
The same went for guard point Chopper tanking starving Linlin's palm smack when she attacked the Sunny. Usually the context of a far stronger character aiming for a far weaker character changes the upscaling.
 
They did. That's why Luffy and Sanji sharing a value in deflecting Big Mom's attack at Reiju was denied. (I was the one who brought that point up and it got agreed on >> miraculous)
The same went for guard point Chopper tanking starving Linlin's palm smack when she attacked the Sunny. Usually the context of a far stronger character aiming for a far weaker character changes the upscaling.
But apparently when Kid stopped an attack aimed at Tama, oh dear, oh boy, then she must have used all her strength!...
Honestly Pre-Awakening Kid shouldn't even be 6-A, t rash.
 
But apparently when Kid stopped an attack aimed at Tama, oh dear, oh boy, then she must have used all her strength!...
She's had it with that child obviously

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At least try to be honest.

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And I never said he tanked it, he literally blocked Akainu's supposedly 6-A AP.

6-A Jinbe when? Hmm?
Ok jackass
Jinbe does not scale to anyone here.

But he matched Ace​

Like I stated above, this was an Ace who wasn't trained by Whitebeard. This was Ace before he met Whitebeard.
Same reason why when Yamato (Wano) gets a profile, she wouldn't scale to Ace.

But he blocked Akainu​

And he got impaled by him too. Plus this would bring huge issues in the scaling, like how Gear Second Luffy could match and wound Jinbe. This isn't good.
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They did. That's why Luffy and Sanji sharing a value in deflecting Big Mom's attack at Reiju was denied. (I was the one who brought that point up and it got agreed on >> miraculous)
Because this scaling would make people like G4th Luffy relative to the Yonko when he got one shot like fodder by Big Mom's equal. That would've made Luffy 3/4ths the yield of Big Mom, when he's clearly not that strong
The same went for guard point Chopper tanking starving Linlin's palm smack when she attacked the Sunny. Usually the context of a far stronger character aiming for a far weaker character changes the upscaling.
No. This was because Big Mom originally scaled at that point in time with her weapons, not with her regular palm strikes
Big Mom currently scales via using her sword/homies.

Big Mom's bare palm shouldn't scale to her full power.

Until we find a new rating for Linlin's AP using her bare palm, Chopper's "likely Country level" end should be removed.
 
Because this scaling would make people like G4th Luffy relative to the Yonko when he got one shot like fodder by Big Mom's equal. That would've made Luffy 3/4ths the yield of Big Mom, when he's clearly not that strong
Imagine the mess if that got accepted.
No. This was because Big Mom originally scaled at that point in time with her weapons, not with her regular palm strikes
Fair. She was starving and weakened by then so it's hard to gauge anyway, especially without her homies involved
 
But apparently when Kid stopped an attack aimed at Tama, oh dear, oh boy, then she must have used all her strength!...
Yeah kinda noticing a double standard on that from the wiki myself.
Honestly Pre-Awakening Kid shouldn't even be 6-A, t rash.
Well I mean, he should be comparable pre-Awakening to Killer, at the very least.

Not to mention IIRC he helped fight BM offscreen.
 
Why would I want to leave when you are so adorable and entertaining?

Look at how feisty you are, reminds me of my cat when I forgot to feed it breakfast.

Creating a CRT is wasted energy on the demographic here who are mostly as intelligent as you are like I said, I am fine with raising your blood pressure every now and then.
Is this Discord kitten shit? How the **** else do you reach a point in debate where you call the opposing side "feisty" lmao
 
We literally have takes here saying Flying Six > Katakuri in stats.
Look, I get it. You like Katakuri. But that doesn't change the fact that there is no relevant scaling to put him anywhere near King. At best, you could say that he is stronger than Perospero, who had to be beaten by Sulong Neko - A character that scales higher than Jack - which would put Katakuri somewhere around Queen
And then we have people saying Marco = pre TS Admirals, which is even funnier.
This is still debatable. The evidence for Marco scaling to pre TS Admirals is the fact that he did injure Aokiji. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he was absolutely equal to them
 
@Ebitan34 please be more respectful to the community. You are allowed to disagree with our statistics and attempting rebuttals if you wish, or even criticize points, but do not do so in an overly abrasive manner. And also listen when Discussion Mods give you warnings, thank you.
 
@Ebitan34 please be more respectful to the community. You are allowed to disagree with our statistics and attempting rebuttals if you wish, or even criticize points, but do not do so in an overly abrasive manner. And also listen when Discussion Mods give you warnings, thank you.
Noted, though I gotta say that one hand cannot clap.

I am actually pretty respectful in most other discussions on this site not related to this particular community.
 
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Look, I get it. You like Katakuri. But that doesn't change the fact that there is no relevant scaling to put him anywhere near King. At best, you could say that he is stronger than Perospero, who had to be beaten by Sulong Neko - A character that scales higher than Jack - which would put Katakuri somewhere around Queen

This is still debatable. The evidence for Marco scaling to pre TS Admirals is the fact that he did injure Aokiji. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he was absolutely equal to them
I think this is the second time I've seen someone say Marco injured Aokiji, but in what way did he injure him? Because he looks fine in the next chapter.
 
My low effort ranking of these 35:

  1. Roger
  2. Whitebeard(I assume you meant Prime)
  3. Garp(Prime?)
  4. Sengoku(Also prime?)
  5. Kaido
  6. Shanks
  7. Mihawk
  8. Big Mom
  9. Shiki
  10. Monkey D. Luffy
  11. Law
  12. Kidd
  13. Yamato
  14. Oden
  15. Akainu
  16. Zoro
  17. Rayleigh
  18. Ben Beckman(He could also be way higher, idk)
  19. Revenge War Teach
  20. Marco
  21. Sanji
  22. Aokiji
  23. Kizaru
  24. Killer
  25. Ace
  26. Queen
  27. Vista
  28. Jozu
  29. Kinemon
  30. Inuarashi
  31. Nekomamushi
  32. Kawamatsu
  33. Denjiro
  34. Ashura
  35. Jack
 
1) Rocks. D Xebec
2) Prime Roger = Prime Whitebeard
4) Monkey D. Luffy
5) Kaidou
6) Shanks = Mihawk
8) Big Mom
9) Akainu
10) Prime Sengoku
11) Prime Oden
12) Prime Rayleigh
13) Kizaru
14) Aokiji
15) Fujitora = GreenBull
17) Law
18) Kidd
19) Yamato
20) Zoro
21) Marco
22) Sanji
23) Katakuri
24) King
25) Queen / Smoothie
26) Denjiro
27) Sulong Inu / Neko
28) Jack / Cracker
29) Doflamingo

Joyboy, Benbeckman (and most of RH pirates), Imu, Blackbeard and Dragon are exempted because they are too vague to scale especially right now.
Did you put King below Katakuri, Marco, and Sanji?

Massive L
 
  1. oger
  2. Whitebeard(I assume you meant Prime)
  3. Garp(Prime?)
  4. Sengoku(Also prime?)
  5. Kaido
  6. Shanks
  7. Mihawk
  8. Big Mom
  9. Shiki
  10. Monkey D. Luffy
  11. Law
  12. Kidd
  13. Yamato
  14. Oden
  15. Akainu
  16. Zoro
  17. Rayleigh
  18. Ben Beckman(He could also be way higher, idk)
  19. Revenge War Teach
  20. Marco
  21. Sanji
  22. Aokiji
  23. Kizaru
  24. Killer
  25. Ace
  26. Queen
  27. Vista
  28. Jozu
  29. Kinemon
  30. Inuarashi
  31. Nekomamushi
  32. Kawamatsu
  33. Denjiro
  34. Ashura
  35. Jack

Jack over the Scabbards
Queen over Ace and Killer
Kizaru and Aokiji over Law
Oden too high
Sanji over Marco
Zoro and Sanji and possibly Marco over Yamato

Everything else looks great though.
 
My low effort ranking of these 35:

  1. Roger
  2. Whitebeard(I assume you meant Prime)
  3. Garp(Prime?)
  4. Sengoku(Also prime?)
  5. Kaido
  6. Shanks
  7. Mihawk
  8. Big Mom
  9. Shiki
  10. Monkey D. Luffy
  11. Law
  12. Kidd
  13. Yamato
  14. Oden
  15. Akainu
  16. Zoro
  17. Rayleigh
  18. Ben Beckman(He could also be way higher, idk)
  19. Revenge War Teach
  20. Marco
  21. Sanji
  22. Aokiji
  23. Kizaru
  24. Killer
  25. Ace
  26. Queen
  27. Vista
  28. Jozu
  29. Kinemon
  30. Inuarashi
  31. Nekomamushi
  32. Kawamatsu
  33. Denjiro
  34. Ashura
  35. Jack
King is missing
 
Jack over the Scabbards
Most of them, yes.
Queen over Ace and Killer
Possible
Kizaru and Aokiji over Law
Possible
Oden too high
Possible
Sanji over Marco
Maybe
Zoro and Sanji and possibly Marco over Yamato
Unlikely
Everything else looks great though.
Based
 
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