Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki

[Greenshifter]

They have NEP type 2 and infinite layers on their hax, iirc they were only infinite on their profiles

But they can’t hit DBH characters with any of them.

 

[Greenshifter]

uh blazblue has infinite speed, not immeasurable

Even worse lol

 

[Brogeefrong]

Should also list that btw

 

[Greenshifter]

the list will become extremely complicated

My second name

 

[Georredannea15]

Expect Kratos to have TD type 2 but why is he still in 5th place???

 

[Tanin_iver]

if i include this list with speed being unequal then the list will become extremely complicated

U can add two rankings based on speed equalized and unequalized

 

[Tanin_iver]

bro trust me i tried doing that and it looks very fked up

Give us a sample.
Also DBH above VHD? Did any matchup happen?

 

[Georredannea15]

everytime i make a kratos vs vhd match, people always tell me vhd guys stomp and close the thread
also vhd is getting massive upgrades

Can I see the threads?

 

[Brogeefrong]

for example spawn bro
that guy has immeasurable speed so im just going to put him at number 1 for blitzing bb characters? he cant interact with characters that have NEP and would get stomped by the lower people on the list even if speed is unequal

I think he meant by how it would look

 

[Tanin_iver]

that guy has immeasurable speed so im just going to put him at number 1 for blitzing bb characters? he cant interact with characters that have NEP and would get stomped by the lower people on the list even if speed is unequal

That isn't how it would rank tho. I mean wouldn't he get annihilated by passives from the lower characters? Bcos Immeasurable speed won't necessarily allow u to get past passives afaik

 

[Tanin_iver]

last time i checked immeasurable is faster than passives unless the person with passives also has immeasurable speed

This is curious. Any reference on where it was discussed that this is how it works? Also is it only for Immeasurable and/or Infinite too? Or even other speed tiers?

 

[Georredannea15]

D vs Dante vs Kratos

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/D_(Vampire_Hunter_D) vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dante_(Devil_May_Cry) vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kratos SBA Speed =

vsbattles.com

Kratos vs D

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kratos vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/D_(Vampire_Hunter_D) SBA Speed =

vsbattles.com

Damn. If Plot hax was removed, how can D really hurt Kratos? How can he even touch him, let alone hurt him?

 

[Robo432343]

This is curious. Any reference on where it was discussed that this is how it works? Also is it only for Immeasurable and/or Infinite too? Or even other speed tiers?

No.

can you make a question and answers thread for it?

 

[Georredannea15]

D isn't even the strongest in the verse
strongest guy in the verse is sacred ancestor
he has NEP type 2 + everyone's powers

So? I mean how are they really going to hurt Kratos, I was big worried because they had plot hax but now they don't have that damn hax, I guess it's going to be an incon because this damn NEP2

 

[Tanin_iver]

can you make a question and answers thread for it?

Passive Haxes and Speed

How do characters with speeds (say they are infinite/immeasurable or more) greater than opponents(who have say finite speed) with passive haxes interact? Do they get haxed or they bypass or somehow dodge it with sheer speed? Just want to know the general relationship between passive haxes and speed.

vsbattles.com

Here

 

[Georredannea15]

because he can outlast kratos and send him to a 0D space
SA's info analysis would let him know everything about kratos

0-D space? How exactly does it work? A typical BFR? Or does it work differently?

 

[Greenshifter]

"You can start to explain as for why DBH blizt those without NEP 2, like how they’re gonna bypass HGR of multiple types, with layers of resistance to HGR negs and the verse even has a higher scaling chain for HGR negs, and how to bypass the resistance to PI of those who can increase its potency just by focusing on one being etc, plus The Embyro and the likes of Es or Nobody can already passively influence everything across time so going through time via immeasurable speed won’t help anyways."

Being promoted to messenger boi Robo? Tell them to come here themselves.

 

[Tanin_iver]

because he can outlast kratos and send him to a 0D space
SA's info analysis would let him know everything about kratos

Don't forget that Kratos will just get Rizzed

His aura can even induce Paralysis, or be used to calm people's emotions. Further more his looks are capable of attracting men and women alike, making others hallucinate they are being drawing into his eyes, his aura should also be able to affect the Fountain of Life, just like the other Nobility. Furthermore, D can also increase his aura several times stronger.

 

[Greenshifter]

for example spawn bro
that guy has immeasurable speed so im just going to put him at number 1 for blitzing bb characters? he cant interact with characters that have NEP and would get stomped by the lower people on the list even if speed is unequal

Take the most amount of wins for the top X amount of characters/verses?

 

[Greenshifter]

Bcos Immeasurable speed won't necessarily allow u to get past passives afaik

It does

 

[Greenshifter]

the thing i sent u was all the way back in page 6 or something

Oh fine, they just blitz and dodge everything via immeasurable(^2) speed. Incon unless time travel killing does something.

 

[Robo432343]

0-D space? How exactly does it work? A typical BFR? Or does it work differently?

bro SA will just AOE BFR kratos when he realizes there is not much he can do

 

[Ikelaggan]

Don't forget that Kratos will just get Rizzed

Death by

 

[Georredannea15]

bro SA will just AOE BFR kratos when he realizes there is not much he can do

So, it's a BFR battle.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Give us a sample.
Also DBH above VHD? Did any matchup happen?

Do you really think Robo knows what he's doing?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Damn. If Plot hax was removed, how can D really hurt Kratos? How can he even touch him, let alone hurt him?

D still has Plot hax.

Causality Manipulation and Plot Manipulation (Users can rewrite events without creating any paradox, such as D when he rewrote their entire journey so that Sue and Matthew worked with Braujou and Miranda to slay Valcua and live a happy life as per their mother's wishes, without knowing who D is, or getting affected by Valcua.)

 

[Phsccarvalho]

that was downgraded but someone forgor to remove it

I talked to supporters talking about this. And they said they managed to keep the plot hax.

If you want to open a crt or Q&A, go ahead.

 

[DivineAura44]

Do you really think Robo knows what he's doing?

"You see me persona-"

 

[Phsccarvalho]

thas weird coz one of the supporters have no problems with plot hax being removed
when did you talk to them abt this?

I think a month or two ago. But not long ago.

 

[Ss3micah]

I talked to supporters talking about this. And they said they managed to keep the plot hax.

If you want to open a crt or Q&A, go ahead.

I have no idea where this came from
Considering that I was the one who made the CTR
I personally requested for someone to have the changes applied time and time again

But no one would do it and eventually it was just forgotten about

If there was some argument to keep plot Hax as a power
Then it was not made on that thread nor any subsequent thread I’ve seen

The main supporter even came to thread and gave the green light to it being removed.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I have no idea where this came from
Considering that I was the one who made the CTR
I personally requested for someone to have the changes applied time and time again

But no one would do it and eventually it was just forgotten about

If there was some argument to keep plot Hax as a power
Then it was not made on that thread nor any subsequent thread I’ve seen

The main supporter even came to thread and gave the green light to it being removed.

So I think you should ask to open the profile to apply the crt. Because it's still there.

 

[Ss3micah]

So I think you should ask to open the profile to apply the crt. Because it's still there.

I think the profile is still open
But if it isn’t then I’m not gonna bother
I asked too many times already and clearly no one paid an interest in having the changes done nor do I know how to edit pages myself

Plus I’m currently working and scheming a few plans of my own so that’s not my main priority anymore

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I think the profile is still open
But if it isn’t then I’m not gonna bother
I asked too many times already and clearly no one paid an interest in having the changes done nor do I know how to edit pages myself

Plus I’m currently working and scheming a few plans of my own so that’s not my main priority anymore

The profile is locked.

Just go to the requests thread and ask someone to apply the CRT. Or at least open the profile so you can apply.

Wasn't crt simply supposed to remove this ability? Just remove.

Until this is applied, it is still in the profile to be used.

 

[Ss3micah]

In short summary

1. Remove plot Hax
2. Remove Immeasurable speed from AR
3. Apply Limited NEP 2 and 3; All aspects to D
4. Adjust D’s other resistances a bit
5. Adjust the AR abilities a bit

In any case
Let it be used if people wanna use it
I currently have interest in my own plans as of now and can’t be bothered to follow this up again

 

[Phsccarvalho]

In short summary

1. Remove plot Hax
2. Remove Immeasurable speed from AR
3. Apply Limited NEP 2 and 3; All aspects to D
4. Adjust D’s other resistances a bit
5. Adjust the AR abilities a bit

In any case
Let it be used if people wanna use it

So go to this thread.

Link the crt.

And tell us what needs to be changed if you don't know how to edit.

I currently have interest in my own plans as of now and can’t be bothered to follow this up again

The crt is yours, so whether you want to go through with it or not is up to you.

But these skills will still be used because they are in the profile.

 

[Ss3micah]

rm said only plot hax is getting removed

bruh lets just wait for the vhd upgrades thats coming out before christmas

Meh whatevs I suppose

 

[Brogeefrong]

So Blazeblue dosent have NEP for Concept, so they can be interacted that way

 

[Vietthai96]

They still NEP2 lol, Concept is just Aspect, Aspect isn't matter if you can't interact with Nature to begin with

 

[Brogeefrong]

They still NEP2 lol, Concept is just Aspect, Aspect isn't matter if you can't interact with Nature to begin with

Their Concept would still be in existence tho

 

[Vietthai96]

Their Concept would still be in existence tho

their concept would also in a state similar to their nature, so...............it isn't really matter, anyway you need to touch the nature first before anything else