STRONGEST ON FCOC! — Ranking of the Most Powerful Characters by Tier

[VeneficaAuthor]

Imo to me Rancour takes but it really depends on how the Walls and Dominion interact

Bruh

I don't wanna have this debate forever my mind clearly won't be changed

 

[GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains]

Bruh

I don't wanna have this debate forever my mind clearly won't be changed

I know but I'm personally of the opinion they share no.1

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I know but I'm personally of the opinion they share no.1

I wasn't sure that would be allowed, but if phoenks says sure then why not

 

[Phoenks]

If 2 characters tie they just share the spot.

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

Emben for number one in 10-C and 9-A.

10-C: He has 9-A magic and durability, all of his magic has at least 7 layers because D&D scaling is ridiculous, he has dura neg (also with 7 layers), plus a durability amp and healing to make it even harder to kill him

9-A: Everything from the first key but better, and he now has Low 7-B magic and dura, his magic has at least 21 layers because D&D scaling is ridiculous, he has such high precision it's basically impossible for him to to miss an attack, and he has probability manip on top of that so he pretty much can't miss, and finally he can spam magic missile (which is guaranteed damage with 21 layers) if someone does resist anything he does

 

[deonment]

That number of layers is just wrong, D&D layer scaling is based on taking 10, you could in no universe get anywhere near 7 layers at level 1 or 21 at level 10 unless your name is Pun-Pun
Also +1 weapons aren't probability manipulation, and magic missile is an auto hit only due to being homing

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

That number of layers is just wrong, D&D layer scaling is based on taking 10, you could in no universe get anywhere near 7 layers at level 1 or 21 at level 10 unless your name is Pun-Pun

This is a really dumb mistake on my part, I was looking at Spell Attack Bonus like an idiot. From what I understand it should actually be 3 layers at first key (Spell Save DC 14) and 7 layers in second (Spell Save DC 18)
Also, not that it really matters in this case, but him being Level 1 is a mistake on the page that I just noticed; the campaign started at level 3

Also +1 weapons aren't probability manipulation

The probability manip comes from the sword letting him reroll attacks and saves, both for himself and anyone around him
On a side note, would his robe giving him a +1 to saves also not be probability manip?

and magic missile is an auto hit only due to being homing

Really? It ignores AC, even if that AC comes from wearing really heavy armor or whatever instead of a high dex

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Might as well try to fill the lists up a bit…

I’m gonna submit Queen Vacteria for 2nd place 6-C. She resists the heat aura Cinner has via resisting her own electric blasts (naturally this extends to the heat of them), which is 50,000 degrees, and she is a very skilled fighter in her own right too. She can contend with Ako’s transformation Comet, which combines him with a master martial artist in Hotaru, greatly enhancing his skills (Ako also previously had defeated Cinner in a thread prior to SDS revisions). She can also summon tens of thousands of minions via her ability to control her colony and she has superior senses to Swarm, who can detect attacks without knowledge of their being an enemy nearby. She can also predict where opponents will go before they do and has many attacks to exploit that. He also doesn’t seem to resist queen bee supreme buzz so I’m pretty confident she’d win in a thread

 

[deonment]

This is a really dumb mistake on my part, I was looking at Spell Attack Bonus like an idiot. From what I understand it should actually be 3 layers at first key (Spell Save DC 14) and 7 layers in second (Spell Save DC 18)

Aight, honest mistake tbh

The probability manip comes from the sword letting him reroll attacks and saves, both for himself and anyone around him
On a side note, would his robe giving him a +1 to saves also not be probability manip?

Ah, aight
Nope

Really? It ignores AC, even if that AC comes from wearing really heavy armor or whatever instead of a high dex

Save or die spells also ignore AC even if logically they should be impacted by the target wearing armor or spell attack spells which should bypass armor getting affected by it. So like, no, not really

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

Save or die spells also ignore AC even if logically they should be impacted by the target wearing armor or spell attack spells which should bypass armor getting affected by it. So like, no, not really

Aight, what should it be corrected to? Just homing attack, or is there a power/ability that goes with Force damage?

 

[deonment]

Aight, what should it be corrected to? Just homing attack, or is there a power/ability that goes with Force damage?

Its Energy Projection + Homing Attack

 

[DMUA]

I don't remember if I've stated it on this thread, but Elena was a placeholder for the 7-B slot.

The Chronologist is what she was holding the place for.

She has not only Blur's ability, but the ability of every single Homewrecker save The Angel and The Grand, and while she can only access two at a time by default, this is more than enough to have the arsenal of many different people already up on the list, including the friggin' Lizard Wizard. Though it truly gets obscene with her Gradation Layer, which also allows her to form a clone of anyone who's powers she's copied, many of which have very potent hax even if they don't really compare to her in overt power.

I think she should also take The Lizard Wizard's spot in 6-B for similar reasons, since her burst includes his and every other possible one