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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

What does his plot manipulation do? Is it onatant win?
Onatant yes of course

Passively it makes it so he is a main character, so anything cliche and plot armour related happens. He also has stated he wrote the entirety of his novel and can create new chapters with a thought, so he can use it offensively to control the narrative if he wishes to and its debatably also a passive.
 
Unless Wang resists Telepathy layers, Saiki reads his mind. Even though Wang has an unclear future Kusuo can just look through the manga and see the future if needed (it is not needed but I wanted to make this argument because its funny)
The soul/mind is inside his sea of consciousness, so like WW will immediately sense it.
  • Thought based Telekinesis, instant crush (Stellar LS)
Fair point, though he'd have to instantly start with it, and even then, he cannot kill WW, only yeet him or smth.
  • Thought based BFR (Wang lacks range)
Same as above with yeeting.
  • Reality and Law Based Mind Manipulation (Wang lacks needed Resistance)
Fair.
  • Thought based Perception Manipulation (It is packed with Madness attributes)
Fair, though madness stuff is covered with his mind manip resistance, and idk how to feel it being called hypnosis but I digress, it doesn't matter.
  • Passive Aura that can nullify other Auras (Main wincon gone??)
Unless said aura nullifies like, 20+ layers, then he won't. Also, it ain't the only wincon, since WW just needs a thought as well to insta-win (Can crush mind and soul, and cause powernull via a thought).
  • Passive Plot Manipulation ( 😭 🙏 )
This is really the main problem, though looking at the protagonist page as well as Saiki's page, the passive portion seems really eh, as it's mostly stuff like saying something and that stuff happens, or entering in a dramatic fashion.

All that said, WW's aura can stop minds and souls, and powernull via his true will. I'll wait to see what exactly is the plot manip capable of, but if all the stuff listed above is something that Saiki instantly starts with, then I can see an incon at best for WW. Though if he can do all of that, I would think he'd be higher on the list.
 
The soul/mind is inside his sea of consciousness, so like WW will immediately sense it.
Okay? How does thay help though
Fair point, though he'd have to instantly start with it, and even then, he cannot kill WW, only yeet him or smth.
Why not? I didnt see a good regenaration on WW
Unless said aura nullifies like, 20+ layers, then he won't.
Hell nah
This is really the main problem, though looking at the protagonist page as well as Saiki's page, the passive portion seems really eh, as it's mostly stuff like saying something and that stuff happens, or entering in a dramatic fashion.
Yeah Passive parts are kinda ass.
All that said, WW's aura can stop minds and souls, and powernull via his true will. I'll wait to see what exactly is the plot manip capable of, but if all the stuff listed above is something that Saiki instantly starts with, then I can see an incon at best for WW. Though if he can do all of that, I would think he'd be higher on the list.
He is climbing, he arguably beats Meng rn. Will likely take that place

Btw I wanna say Saiki also has an undefined faster brain process speed so if this is a thought vs thought Saiki will always think first (in speed equal)
 
Okay? How does thay help though

Why not? I didnt see a good regenaration on WW
He has Fate manipulation from the first key, where it cannot allow him to die unless he goes through his Nexus Fate, which is an event that cannot be stopped no matter what.
He is climbing, he arguably beats Meng rn. Will likely take that place

Btw I wanna say Saiki also has an undefined faster brain process speed so if this is a thought vs thought Saiki will always think first (in speed equal)
I don't see that anywhere on his speed section, so this point doesn't point. Though I'm fine if you want to include it, but we'll have to include WW's thought speed as well (Which I forgot to add in the profile, though there are early mentions of it in his first key). It is faster by an undefined amount as well, if we were to both accept it, and later on, his thought speed is like 3.3 million times his normal speed (Not this key though). Also, he has huge amount of luck (Even the worst cultivators have a luck of like, 1 in a 100 million or billion), let alone WW which is unfathomably above that. Then there's Destiny's Son, which'll make the son of the world, but he'll have to activate it with a thought as well, so eh.

Regardless, Saiki has to start with something that'll instantly incap WW, otherwise a single glance from WW or his aura alone (which he releases it passively the moment he wants to fight) can pretty much end the fight.

I'm fine with it being an incon, though I'd appreciate it if you could have Saiki fight Meng, since I think WW has a chance against him as well.
 
He has Fate manipulation from the first key, where it cannot allow him to die unless he goes through his Nexus Fate, which is an event that cannot be stopped no matter what.
How would this stop le crush? Pretty sure these kind of stuff just allow the characters to EVENTUALLY continue on.

Doomguy and Archie sonic are examples, I think you still can like “die” for some time. I dont know though, I’ll accept this reasoning
I don't see that anywhere on his speed section, so this point doesn't point.
No idea why he lacks that, he basically used RW to make EVERY HUMAN have enhanced thinking speed. You can see it on another profile for the same verse
It is faster by an undefined amount as well
Scan?
which'll make the son of the world
Tf is this goofy ahh character 💀🙏, fatherless bro got adopted by earth 🌍 🗣🔥
I'm fine with it being an incon, though I'd appreciate it if you could have Saiki fight Meng, since I think WW has a chance against him as well.
Yeah, btw I think your guy just kinda slams Meng too
 
No idea why he lacks that, he basically used RW to make EVERY HUMAN have enhanced thinking speed. You can see it on another profile for the same verse

Scan?
Mb, turns out he didn't.

Instead it was a straight up 100x mind speed (Ch. 172) 😭
Been ages since I passed this feat, and I didn't know at the time thought speed stuff get indexed.
Tf is this goofy ahh character 💀🙏, fatherless bro got adopted by earth 🌍 🗣🔥
What is this ancient eldritch language.
 
I'm fine with Incon.

As for Meng Chuan, @Zaratthustra made that profile, and read WW's story, so I'll wait to see what he has to say.

As for 4-C, I'll wait for supporters to see what Sujin can do, and what's her answer to WW's shenanigans.
 
He can Pnull other cultivators, which would include those who use Divine Runes (Info type 2), so I don't see what stops him from Pnulling them (Not to mention this is a verse where anything can become a cultivator, including dreams, rivers, memories, and there are even beings who are pure Divine Runes iirc). Even then, if people strictly want NPI on the profile and whatnot, from what I'm seeing on the profile, it seems only his duplicates are AE1, whereas the main body is not. Need people to confirm if that is true, but if it is, then just WW's aura should be enough to paralyze him, or just use his Powernull, fear manip, charisma to influence him to stop fighting, etc...
 
Just to start things, WW isn't beating World of darkness for Low 2-C. Almost all of them have 1-A+ hax and like every ability on the wiki (yes, they are that cracked)
 
Just to start things, WW isn't beating World of darkness for Low 2-C. Almost all of them have 1-A+ hax and like every ability on the wiki (yes, they are that cracked)
Also aren't beating Warhammer Low 2-C reps, there's passive 1-A hax 4 layers into the tier there.
 
Y'all good? This is Non-smurf list, so WW ain't even bothering with those peeps. If he got Smurf stuff, WoD he ain't ever gonna tackle since those guys are nuts, but in the future, he might go against Warhammer if 1-A - H1A stuff gets accepted (Unlikely, but eh).
 
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