Passive Haxes and Speed

[Tanin_iver]

How do characters with speeds (say they are infinite/immeasurable or more) greater than opponents(who have say finite speed) with passive haxes interact? Do they get haxed or they bypass or somehow dodge it with sheer speed? Just want to know the general relationship between passive haxes and speed.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Think of it like this, passive hax are like laser detectors. The moment something enters the range of the passive hax, the detector is tripped and the hax is activated.

However, having infinite speed means you are moving in zero time or moving infinitely in finite time. Either way, with infinite speed you are moving so fast that the detector doesn't even get to be tripped, as nothing can happen in zero time.

 

[SYPHe5D]

Think of it like this, passive hax are like laser detectors. The moment something enters the range of the passive hax, the detector is tripped and the hax is activated.

However, having infinite speed means you are moving in zero time or moving infinitely in finite time. Either way, with infinite speed you are moving so fast that the detector doesn't even get to be tripped, as nothing can happen in zero time.

Does this apply to hax that are cognition based?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Does this apply to hax that are cognition based?

Yes.

 

[Andika_CL_atmadja]

however it should be noted that infinite speed able to bypass certain hax if those hax also does not have infinite speed properties/attributes in it. Some passive hax definitely able to affect infinite speed char.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

How do characters with speeds (say they are infinite/immeasurable or more) greater than opponents(who have say finite speed) with passive haxes interact? Do they get haxed or they bypass or somehow dodge it with sheer speed? Just want to know the general relationship between passive haxes and speed.

For immeasurable speed, the passive hax must demonstrate that it affects characters with that speed. These characters can ignore passive hax at this speed.

For infinite speed I don't know.

 

[Theglassman12]

If the passives are normal in range where you just have to be close to the person for it to work then they can dodge it easily due to them moving faster than the passive’s own range. If the passive abilities can extend across entire tier 2 structures and above and the immeasurable/infinite speed character can’t escape beyond the range of the passive abilities then they cannot outrun it since they’re always in the range of the abilities in the first place.

 

[Tanin_iver]

If the passives are normal in range where you just have to be close to the person for it to work then they can dodge it easily due to them moving faster than the passive’s own range. If the passive abilities can extend across entire tier 2 structures and above and the immeasurable/infinite speed character can’t escape beyond the range of the passive abilities then they cannot outrun it since they’re always in the range of the abilities in the first place.

I see, but what about in cases where the range is finite for the passive hax of a character A, say an aura that extends upto kilometres, which is greater than the range(who has standard melee range) of the character B who has infinite/immeasurable speed, so will the character be considered to get haxxed in this case, if he were to actually fight character A or get close to finsh him off, in which case a matchup might become incon?

 

[Theglassman12]

For finite range passives the immeasurable and infinite speed characters can likely escape from the ability, however that’s also assuming that they’re fully aware of the passive abilities to begin with and have the foresight to just run away to get out of the range before it hits.

 

[Tanin_iver]

For finite range passives the immeasurable and infinite speed characters can likely escape from the ability, however that’s also assuming that they’re fully aware of the passive abilities to begin with and have the foresight to just run away to get out of the range before it hits.

So as long as they are within range of the passives they should get affected. Speed isn't going to just help them escaping AoE effect I presume then? Ofc if they escapee the range that would indeed be a different matter.

 

[Theglassman12]

Speed would only help them escape if they’re fully aware of the situation to begin with, cause again arguing someone can just run away from the passives when they don’t know the foe has passives to begin with is a massive assumption to make, and would need to be proven that they can be aware of incoming danger and avoid it.