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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode V Attack of the Fanons
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You mean the Luke equal to Vader one? Yes.
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If it doesn't contradict why can't it be used though?
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Wasn't there some sort of book that pits the Disney Canon version of Characters against each other that had ESB Vader beating RotS Yoda? I remember someone bringing that up to me before.
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Because it's non-canon.
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But it doesn't contradict. Son of Dathomir is both legends and canon.
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Son of Dathmonir is part of the Clone Wars. This book is straight up old canon.
"But it doesn't contradict" is not an argument. The fact is, Disney removed it from their canon years ago.
"But it doesn't contradict" is not an argument. The fact is, Disney removed it from their canon years ago.
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That's because they often follow the rock-paper-scissors rule.
A>B, B>C, C>A
This is basically what sums up ROTS Anakin, Dooku, Kenobi. Antoine Bandele and Jensaarai1 did a great analyses of that scaling.
Son of Dathomir is exclusive to the new Canon. All comics & books released May 2014 onward are exclusive to new Canon.
One could argue it falls under Legends as well since it is based on unfinished Clone Wars scripts. But those scripts never made it past concept stage; ditto for Dark Disciple. It's not like the crystal crisis on Utapau footage.
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If we're going by Legends then Obi-Wan beat an Anakin that wasn't even at his best and still damn near Stalemated him until Anakin got Cocky. In fact, Obi-Wan said that Anakin's strikes were going to break his wrist if he hot any harder.
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Yeah. Obi-Wan was always strong, but Anakin slightly more so. Going by Legends, we also know that Anakin is faster thanks to that one statement by Durge (he says Anakin is the fastest Jedi he's ever fought despite having fought Kenobi thrice before).
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That's true, but it's worth noting that Legends Obi-Wan wasn't giving it his all, either, and that Anakin was amped (this same quote strongly implies Sith Anakin > Jedi Anakin). He eventually decided to give his all near the end of the fight, and they were about equal.
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I know he was Amped, but he still wasn't at his best since he was Conflicted for a noticeable portion of the fight and he hadn't Slept or Ate for like 3 days at this point so he wasn't exactly in Peak Form.
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Also, no one replied to this.
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the book exists
It also puts early TFA Kylo as being superior to ESB Luke.
It also puts early TFA Kylo as being superior to ESB Luke.
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but the Vader vs Yoda thing is Legends though as it was included in Head to Head in 2010.
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I didn't say he was at his best, just more powerful than his Jedi self.
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The Bad Batch premiers today.
This is the closest we'll get to a Republic Commando show. Hell, other Clone Commandos could indeed appear.
I can't wait.
I have an exam next month to study for. But this takes priority
This is the closest we'll get to a Republic Commando show. Hell, other Clone Commandos could indeed appear.
I can't wait.
I have an exam next month to study for. But this takes priority
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Happy may the 4th everyone
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To you as well, Shadow senpai.
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Does anyone find it interesting how Taco day comes immediately after Star Wars day? We need some Mexican Jedi around here.
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Mexican Revan is what I want to see just for the ***** & giggles
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Im busy with a Sequel Trilogy CRT and I just realized how barebones some of our canon ability profiles are.
Outside of like Darth Vader lol
Outside of like Darth Vader lol
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That premier episode was great. 1 down and 15 to go. I'm glad the next one is on Friday, but bummed we'll have to wait a week from then on for a new episode.
And, good lord, Omega is adorable. She's already among my favourite clones now.
And, good lord, Omega is adorable. She's already among my favourite clones now.
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as someone who thought the bad batch back in Clone Wars were shallow carcitures, this episode was great.
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Considering Revenge of the 5th this is a really hilarious thought to me lolMexican Revan is what I want to see just for the ***** & giggles
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though I hate how the episode retcons the Kanan Jarrus comic.
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I knew when we first saw them that they would be fleshed out i future material. I expected it to be in books & comics, not their own damn TV show - and it turns out to be darn good.
Diego Luna could have played Mexican Revan, if he wasn't already playing another prominent character with his own TV show.
TCW Season 7 had some of the same issues. It retconned Ahsoka's fixed up lightsabers, when Rex removed his inhibitor chip, where Order 66 was executed against Ahsoka, where Rex's fake grave is, and who the fake grave belongs to.
My biggest issue thus far is that Kanan's moment of personal conflict with Commander Grey & Captain Styles was taken away. That was such a great scene in the comics and would have been great to put in this show. Now they're just nameless and faceless CTs with no personality. The armour colour retcon I can live with.
Other minor issues I have are Depa Billaba's lightsaber and kid Kanan having his adult voice. The latter was just weird. Don't get me wrong. I love Freddie Prince Jr. But that was just weird.
My biggest issue thus far is that Kanan's moment of personal conflict with Commander Grey & Captain Styles was taken away. That was such a great scene in the comics and would have been great to put in this show. Now they're just nameless and faceless CTs with no personality. The armour colour retcon I can live with.
Other minor issues I have are Depa Billaba's lightsaber and kid Kanan having his adult voice. The latter was just weird. Don't get me wrong. I love Freddie Prince Jr. But that was just weird.
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When the Order 66 music kicked in on Kaller, I felt that. I really felt that.
Man, I miss Kanan.
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Im more forgiving about the Ahsoka thing because, at the time, it looked like TCW was never going to return.
on the other hand, this is Filoni and Co actively taking and knowing about a story and changing it for their show, I know People treat Dave as the second coming of Jesus but he has an annoying habit of wanting to reference things from other star wars stuff without actually representing them accurately, this was fine back in the day because there was an Established Canon Hierarchy, but now we get told everything is meant to be canon and Cohesive and we still get annoying retcons like this. Generally, im not a prude when it comes to minor stuff like this, I care about the emotional storytelling far more than what is or isn't canon, It just bugs me on principle because they making promises they clearly can't keep.
on the other hand, this is Filoni and Co actively taking and knowing about a story and changing it for their show, I know People treat Dave as the second coming of Jesus but he has an annoying habit of wanting to reference things from other star wars stuff without actually representing them accurately, this was fine back in the day because there was an Established Canon Hierarchy, but now we get told everything is meant to be canon and Cohesive and we still get annoying retcons like this. Generally, im not a prude when it comes to minor stuff like this, I care about the emotional storytelling far more than what is or isn't canon, It just bugs me on principle because they making promises they clearly can't keep.
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Not that big a deal for those who haven't read the Kanan comic, though I can see where certain complaints are coming from. My guess is that, while all things are considered canon, they're still taking a similar approach to what was taken pre-Disney: anything in the movies or TV series takes precedent over other materials.
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Has anyone watched this?
It's actually really well thought out and really well written.
It's actually really well thought out and really well written.
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A reminder that some of the Lego Star Wars characters will be getting Acausality lol
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What? Explain.
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Characters were able to fight and kill different versions of themselves from different points in time in the Holiday Special without affecting the future timeline. As far as Im aware this is resistance to the Time Paradox stuff.
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