Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Dereck03]

@DarkDragonMedeus The report unfolds around you so i hope you could clarify which is the correct instance here before this goes overboard.

I will just point out that currently not including the staff vote even though the staff has made their position clear is vote manipulation and currently there have been warnings given to users for doing the same. I will not accuse any side of anything, I am just saying this to be taken into account.

 

[Omegabronic]

@DarkDragonMedeus The report unfolds around you so i hope you could clarify which is the correct instance here before this goes overboard.

I will just point out that currently not including the staff vote even though the staff has made their position clear is vote manipulation and currently there have been warnings given to users for doing the same.

i did included his vote tho

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I was neutral on the first thread because I was mostly unsure what extents the OP was proposing. But on the 2nd thread, I did make my stance clear that I agreed with using Toriyama's illustrations and that it was face value evidence that living universe was a parallel dimension existing next to the living universe and seperated by spatio-temporal barriers thus justifying 2-C. I don't think omegabronic has intentionally done anything wrong from my point of view, but may have forgotten or misunderstood what my hat would be put in. I was in neutral in the old thread. Though there was a glitch where I wasn't recieving notifications for the 2nd half of the thread, so I may have missed out if there was any wrong doings. But now that I sound more specific, might as well put me in the "Agree with keeping the 2-C ratings done by the initial SSG Goku and Beerus shaking the universe feat."

 

[StrymULTRA]

I am fully aware that this isn't exactly a big deal, but this thread is becoming a disaster, due to various individuals just keeping to spam and stonewall the thread, acting as if the evidence is nonexistent.

I'll try to expain as organically as possible. The individuals involved are @Vlova, @Rockysbalboa and @Quintessence_PE.

• Page 1: Vlova keeps insisting that Yan Sen is a Type 1 Abstract being, thus Bill Cipher cannot interact with Yan Sen, despite his profile clearly says that he's AE2 (thus Bill can indeed interact with him). Later on, Quintessence made on the post above this one a request to change his AE type from 1 to 2 without any explanation on why, only that he deleted it later.
• Page 2: Rocky claims that Bill's profile is "TIERWANK", other than generally making claims like Bill's hax being only 3D (which I'll elaborate later on).
• Page 5: Vlova claims that Bill's hax is only 3D in potency, and even after that I've explained to them why instead it is 12D, they keep on saying it is just 3D without elaborating, essentially stonewalling.

The thing could go on. I do not believe it's breaking any rule, but this kind of stubborness and complete refusal to elaborate on why it's a disagreement on certain factors makes this very unpleasant to debate in, with this useless back and forth making that thread 6 pages long already.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

Quintessence made on the post above this one a request to change his AE type from 1 to 2 without any explanation on why, only that he

Honestly, what's wrong with that? A character that is conceptual should already be ae type1, this is already confirmed in crt, I will edit it because it is misspelled. This is not a rule violation.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Honestly, what's wrong with that? A character that is conceptual should already be ae type1, this is already confirmed in crt, I will edit it because it is misspelled. This is not a rule violation.

It seemed to me that you wanted to change the type only to fit the VS Thread, given that you essentually just said "Type 2 is wrong, please change to Type 1" without really explaining why.

Edit: Also being just "conceptual" isn't grounds for Type 1 (especially if the scan is this), but that ain't the time to discuss this.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

It seemed to me that you wanted to change the type only to fit the VS Thread, given that you essentually just said "Type 2 is wrong, please change to Type 1" without really explaining why.

I was not aware of this mistake until I saw people talking about it, and after I realized it I wanted to edit it and explained why I was going to edit it.

 

[Omegabronic]

I was neutral on the first thread because I was mostly unsure what extents the OP was proposing. But on the 2nd thread, I did make my stance clear that I agreed with using Toriyama's illustrations and that it was face value evidence that living universe was a parallel dimension existing next to the living universe and seperated by spatio-temporal barriers thus justifying 2-C. I don't think omegabronic has intentionally done anything wrong from my point of view, but may have forgotten or misunderstood what my hat would be put in. I was in neutral in the old thread. Though there was a glitch where I wasn't recieving notifications for the 2nd half of the thread, so I may have missed out if there was any wrong doings. But now that I sound more specific, might as well put me in the "Agree with keeping the 2-C ratings done by the initial SSG Goku and Beerus shaking the universe feat."

Well, i included the 2-C part to be more specific, i got that you agreed with keeping 2-C, i should have made that more clear in the voting section looking back now

 

[StrymULTRA]

I was not aware of this mistake until I saw people talking about it, and after I realized it I wanted to edit it and explained why I was going to edit it.

I genuinely cannot see that in neither the verse nor the character's CRTs tbh.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

I genuinely cannot see that in neither the verse nor the character's CRTs tbh.

you were discussing whether they could interact or not, that's what I was talking about.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Since you already made the rvr, it's best to wait for mods and not clutter the thread.

 

[StrymULTRA]

you were discussing whether they could interact or not, that's what I was talking about.

Does not matter, you'd need a CRT to buff to Type 1, something I didn't really find yet.

But yes, better to wait.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

Does not matter, you'd need a CRT to buff to Type 1, something I didn't really find yet.

But yes, better to wait.

characters that are conceptual must be ae1. No upgrade is needed for this.
also this is probably the crt you need

 

[StrymULTRA]

characters that are conceptual must be ae1. No upgrade is needed for this.
also this is probably the crt you need

Literally the CRT agreed with Type 2 AE, you're doing this worse for yourself man.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

Literally the CRT agreed with Type 2 AE, you're doing this worse for yourself man.

Can you prove it?

 

[CloverDragon03]

@Quintessence_PE You can't push for an ability change like this without a CRT, that's just the rules

 

[Quintessence_PE]

@Quintessence_PE You can't push for an ability change like this without a CRT, that's just the rules

You are saying that a conceptual character is not ae1, which is strange. I'll open it if that's what you need.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Can you prove it?

CTRL + F on "Type 1" only leads on concept type, not AE. @Elizhaa was even iffy on them being even Type 2 AE.

 

[CloverDragon03]

You are saying that a conceptual character is not ae1, which is strange. I'll open it if that's what you need.

I'm not saying anything about what it is and isn't, I'm just saying that these are the rules

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'd like to add that the AE 2 wasn't even accepted in said thread, Elizhaa disagreed, Planck was neutral, and DDM also disagreed, yet Quintessence added it anyway.

I do not want to bother with the rest of the verse's addition, but it may seem a pretty severe case of corruption.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

I'd like to add that the AE 2 wasn't even accepted in said thread, Elizhaa disagreed, Planck was neutral, and DDM also disagreed, yet Quintessence added it anyway.

I do not want to bother with the rest of the verse's addition, but it may seem a pretty severe case of corruption.

Elizhaa disagree? Are you sure you read it right?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Elizhaa disagree? Are you sure you read it right?

Just being the concept of love is not really enough for type 2 since is not really a key component of reality without more contexts, like inanimate objects that cannot love, for example.

I mean...

 

[Quintessence_PE]

Just being the concept of love is not really enough for type 2 since is not really a key component of reality without more contexts, like inanimate objects that cannot love, for example.

I mean...

here s/he's talking about cm. (people who are already conceptual 1 are eligible to be ae1 because they are the concept itself).

 

[StrymULTRA]

here s/he's talking about cm. (people who are already conceptual 1 are eligible to be ae1 because they are the concept itself).

So there's no talk at all for AE? What.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

So there's no talk at all for AE? What.

The reason I add that is because it is a conceptual being because people who are conceptual are also ae 1.

 

[StrymULTRA]

As said above, you have to make a CRT to add AE, you can't just add it because why not.

But I think I'm flooding this, so I'll stop.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

As said above, you have to make a CRT to add AE, you can't just add it because why not.

But I think I'm flooding this, so I'll stop.

There was probably some confusion and I will open a crt to fix it, don't worry.

 

[SlendVeny]

I know I'm not meant to be talking either due to not being staff or whatever, but y'all gotta quit spamming this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

I know I'm not meant to be talking either due to not being staff or whatever, but y'all gotta quit spamming this thread.

Agreed.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Reported @omegabronic for manipulating votes

I was reported for this before, where team members were getting the wrong things about my Op and I put them on neutral until they spoke again, but I didn't know I could and I got a warning about this, but Omega knows this and is still placing DDM as neutral, as he agreed in the other topic and in this recent one

And Omega is doing the same thing here



Right here, DDM agreed about the Universe being 2-C





Summing it all up, he is manipulating the votes to get where he wants and that is not allowed here, since I was reported for it, and even I didn't know why, but Omega clearly knows and still puts DDM as neutral, and he agrees with our points from the previous one.

Bump, still in the case of Omega, he hasn't put DDM in agreement and possibly won't even after i ask DDM about the other world being Universal sized




Here where he voted to agree that the other world is the size of the Universe


Furthermore, he keeps creating other things to distort the votes so that they are not valid (before he created the crt there was no such thing and he is doing this on purpose)

In the other crt, the same thing also happened, where he was manipulating the votes so that people closed, while we were winning in votes

What is confirmed here too

What made the administrators close our crt, even though we were winning in votes

All of us Dragon Ball fans are upset by these things from Omega, and not for the second time, he always does these things to get what he wants.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Bump, still in the case of Omega, he hasn't put DDM in agreement and possibly won't even after i ask DDM about the other world being Universal sized




Here where he voted to agree that the other world is the size of the Universe


Furthermore, he keeps creating other things to distort the votes so that they are not valid (before he created the crt there was no such thing and he is doing this on purpose)

In the other crt, the same thing also happened, where he was manipulating the votes so that people closed, while we were winning in votes

What is confirmed here too

What made the administrators close our crt, even though we were winning in votes

All of us Dragon Ball fans are upset by these things from Omega, and not for the second time, he always does these things to get what he wants.

Read what's in the OP please.

@DarkDragonMedeus(says that he agrees with it being universe sized and thus with it being 2-C

He did put DDM as agree for 2-C and afterlife being universe sized. It's just weirdly done and put in neutral because of not commenting on the specific scan. There is no vote manipulation going on here.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Read what's in the OP please.

He did put DDM as agree for 2-C and afterlife being universe sized. It's just weirdly done and put in neutral because of not commenting on the specific scan. There is no vote manipulation going on here.

Neutral with Afterlife being a universe: @Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus(says that he agrees with it being universe sized and thus with it being 2-C, but has not commented on the up above scan)

No dude, he's in neutral, he clearly agreed with another world being size of the Universe, Omega is twisting the crt so he can win in votes.

 

[Omegabronic]

Neutral with Afterlife being a universe: @Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus

No dude, he's in neutral, he clearly agreed with another world being 2-C, Omega is twisting the crt so he can win in votes.

(says that he agrees with it being universe sized and thus with it being 2-C, but has not commented on the up above scan)

my dude.......it is litterally right there.......you can't say i didn't put that he agreed with Universal Afterlife and with a 2-C due to it when i VERBATIM STATED THAT HE AGREES WITH BOTH IN THE OP ITSELF

like......is this trolling at this point? there is not way you can honestly read me saying "He agrees with X" and then say "He says that he didn't agreed with X" and expect me to not believe you are not trolling

 

[Deagonx]

Let me ask very clearly, does the characterization of these votes -- at this very moment -- determine the disposition of the thread? Or would it be ongoing either way?

 

[Omegabronic]

Let me ask very clearly, does the characterization of these votes -- at this very moment -- determine the disposition of the thread? Or would it be ongoing either way?

it is ongoing currently, it is tending for 3 sides currently, one for a likely rating based on 1 scan, one for a full rating based on different scans and reasonings than the first, and 1 disagreeing with the rating entirely

 

[Deagonx]

@LuffyRuffy46307

If that's the case, I ask that we not quibble over this until we've reached a situation where the difference between how a vote is being counted determines whether the thread passes or not.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

@LuffyRuffy46307

If that's the case, I ask that we not quibble over this until we've reached a situation where the difference between how a vote is being counted determines whether the thread passes or not.

All good

 

[GarrixianXD]

I would like to cite Shmooply's permaban as precedent case, as that was for more or less the same reason (ie; overt transphobia).

Just FYI Shmooply’s ban got shifted down to 6 months.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Just FYI Shmooply’s ban got shifted down to 6 months.

Unfortunate. It is deserving of a ban regardless, though I'll leave the exact length up to staff.

 

[Deleted member 15008]

As the person who was in those screenshots, I’ll give some extra context, doesn’t really make it better, but there was a conversation taking place over Yellow_Topaz’s ban where him and @Phoenks were discussing her being a “entirely made up transgender persona” so she could sock puppet. I said that’s absurd because their only proof was Charmander on their channel had a male voice, leading to these frankly disgusting comments.