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This is a follow-up to this post I made about the potential upgrade for Hinata Hyuga to at least 6-B. The reason I'm making this post is due to the arguments made by LordTracer, KingTempest and UchihaSlayer96.
There two main arguments made to disapprove this upgrade
1. Hinata doesn't have Hamura's chakra
2. The feat Hinata got from the Kyubi cloak is inconsistent since she is meant to scale below KCM 2 who got slapped by 1st form Juubi.
The debunks
Hinata doesn't have Hamura's chakra
This was the argument made by Uchihaslayer to disapprove the 6-B upgrade because he claimed she couldn't destroy the Tenseigan which Naruto could. He also claimed Hinata didn't replenish Naruto chakra but only prevented his chakra from getting absorbed because "she had a way" of countering the jutsu's absorbtion effects.
These points don't really make any sense because we literally saw Hinata falling victim to the Tenseigan's chakra absorption as well.
If she indeed had the ability to counter Toneri's absorption ability, then why did she also get her chakra absorbed and got knocked out by the effects of the Jutsu? In short, she had no counter to the jutsu in the movie.
As for Hinata being unable to destroy the Tenseigan, it was because she wasn't at her full strength at that moment. She has gotten her chakra system tampered with so many times prior to the Tenseigan's destruction and she was still recovering before she had the chance to regain her composure to destroy the tenseigan.
Even Naruto needed a lot of time to recover after he got his chakra tampered just once
As for her replenishing Naruto's reserves, it's pretty obvious. Toneri sucked Naruto till he went out of his Bijju Sage Mode. He was even shaking in his base form which means he was weakened due to chakra exhaustion.
But when Hinata touched him, he got replenished and instantly entered his BSM back
She later claims it herself that she does have Hamura's chakra.
In conclusion, Hinata does possess Hamura's chakra and it wasn't because "she had a way of countering the Tenseigan". That makes no sense. Not ot mention, the wiki even acknowledges Hinata's posession of Hamura's chakra so idk why you thought Hinata never had it. It's shown in the movie that she did have it and it's also acknowledged in the wiki.
The second argument they made is;
The feat Hinata got from the Kyubi cloak is inconsistent since she is meant to scale below KCM 2 who got slapped by 1st form Juubi. Hinata blasting away the Juubi arm makes no sense since KCM 2 Naruto got hit by it
The Debunk
There are two versions of KCM 2 Naruto. The first one is the "eKCM2 Naruto" who just unlocked the KCM 2 mode freshly but was still inexperienced and had a fixed time limit
Then there is a mastered KCM2 Naruto who was shown later in the war sharing his chakra with everyone, fighting on par with EMS Sasuke, KCM Minato, Edo Tobirama, etc.
It's also similar to Sasuke who had eEMS that was having an hard time facing Sage Kabuto
compared to his Mastered EMS that got a lot stronger in the war alongside Naruto.
What I'm trying to say is that, Hinata slapping away the Juubi arm isnt inconsistent because KCM2 Naruto is still stronger than Kyubi cloak Hinata. Hinata never fought Juubito like Naruto did. Her performing better than eKCM2 Naruto is not inconsistent as she got stronger as well. Even Hiashi could repel the Juubi arm without any cloak.
Even MKCM Naruto had better feats than eKCM2 Naruto despite the mode being overall weaker than eKCM 2.
In conclusion, I'm still requesting for the "at least 6-B" upgrade for The Last Hinata since she scales above Kyubi cloak Hinata that could repel the Juubi arm. Thanks for reading.
Most of the credit goes to my friend who is the best Hinata or Hyuga scaler on Quora
There two main arguments made to disapprove this upgrade
1. Hinata doesn't have Hamura's chakra
2. The feat Hinata got from the Kyubi cloak is inconsistent since she is meant to scale below KCM 2 who got slapped by 1st form Juubi.
The debunks
Hinata doesn't have Hamura's chakra
This was the argument made by Uchihaslayer to disapprove the 6-B upgrade because he claimed she couldn't destroy the Tenseigan which Naruto could. He also claimed Hinata didn't replenish Naruto chakra but only prevented his chakra from getting absorbed because "she had a way" of countering the jutsu's absorbtion effects.
These points don't really make any sense because we literally saw Hinata falling victim to the Tenseigan's chakra absorption as well.
If she indeed had the ability to counter Toneri's absorption ability, then why did she also get her chakra absorbed and got knocked out by the effects of the Jutsu? In short, she had no counter to the jutsu in the movie.
As for Hinata being unable to destroy the Tenseigan, it was because she wasn't at her full strength at that moment. She has gotten her chakra system tampered with so many times prior to the Tenseigan's destruction and she was still recovering before she had the chance to regain her composure to destroy the tenseigan.
Even Naruto needed a lot of time to recover after he got his chakra tampered just once
As for her replenishing Naruto's reserves, it's pretty obvious. Toneri sucked Naruto till he went out of his Bijju Sage Mode. He was even shaking in his base form which means he was weakened due to chakra exhaustion.
But when Hinata touched him, he got replenished and instantly entered his BSM back
She later claims it herself that she does have Hamura's chakra.
In conclusion, Hinata does possess Hamura's chakra and it wasn't because "she had a way of countering the Tenseigan". That makes no sense. Not ot mention, the wiki even acknowledges Hinata's posession of Hamura's chakra so idk why you thought Hinata never had it. It's shown in the movie that she did have it and it's also acknowledged in the wiki.
The second argument they made is;
The feat Hinata got from the Kyubi cloak is inconsistent since she is meant to scale below KCM 2 who got slapped by 1st form Juubi. Hinata blasting away the Juubi arm makes no sense since KCM 2 Naruto got hit by it
The Debunk
There are two versions of KCM 2 Naruto. The first one is the "eKCM2 Naruto" who just unlocked the KCM 2 mode freshly but was still inexperienced and had a fixed time limit
Then there is a mastered KCM2 Naruto who was shown later in the war sharing his chakra with everyone, fighting on par with EMS Sasuke, KCM Minato, Edo Tobirama, etc.
It's also similar to Sasuke who had eEMS that was having an hard time facing Sage Kabuto
compared to his Mastered EMS that got a lot stronger in the war alongside Naruto.
What I'm trying to say is that, Hinata slapping away the Juubi arm isnt inconsistent because KCM2 Naruto is still stronger than Kyubi cloak Hinata. Hinata never fought Juubito like Naruto did. Her performing better than eKCM2 Naruto is not inconsistent as she got stronger as well. Even Hiashi could repel the Juubi arm without any cloak.
Even MKCM Naruto had better feats than eKCM2 Naruto despite the mode being overall weaker than eKCM 2.
KCM2 Naruto>Kyubi cloak Hinata>eKCM2 Naruto.
In conclusion, I'm still requesting for the "at least 6-B" upgrade for The Last Hinata since she scales above Kyubi cloak Hinata that could repel the Juubi arm. Thanks for reading.
Most of the credit goes to my friend who is the best Hinata or Hyuga scaler on Quora
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