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@Eminiteable - I'm pretty certain Luffy has only withstood Katakuri's attacks (as in took them while at WORST being staggered momentarily) on occasions where he used Haki.
Otherwise, attacks that Katakuri has landed have left Luffy bloody, vomiting blood, incapacitated, or missing parts of his body (which are reflected in the scans shown--granted a few of them are after Luffy began evolving and entered the key where he has 7-A+ dura anyways).
Not saying Luffy's Dura is MASSIVELY beneath Kata's AP, but it's still a large gap. Keep in mind that we keep "At least x tier, possibly y tier" because of situations like this:
Gear 4th Bound Man is High 7-A, Katakuri is clearly weaker than Bound-Man in AP/Dura by a considerable margin, but has shown that he is capable of dishing out damage (albeit with Haki) and can still fight competitively--albeit through more complex means than a "head-on" engagement, Luffy with Gear 2nd and 3rd are far inferior to Katakuri's capabilities w/ and w/out awakening (both being ~420MT), so for these reasonings of Kata obviously being >> Gear 2nd/3rd by a pretty large margin, but being less powerful than Bound-Man Luffy, it only makes sense for him to be "At least 7-A+, Possibly High 7-A" as he is clearly >550MT (due to showing feats above Gear 3rd Luffy with casual effort), but <1.26GT due to being physically rag-dolled and injured by Bound-Man Luffy, and having 0 feats of actually clashing with his attacks head-on.
Similarly, after evolving and becoming stronger with Kenbun Haki and in general, Luffy was still beneath Katakuri by a considerable amount--but was still capable of posing a threat and could stop a couple attacks (if only for a moment and inconsistently), hence why his Gear 3rd scales to baseline 7-A+ since he's still inferior to Kata.
And before someone tries to bring up that point of Kata deflecting the Kong-Gun with Power Mochi... ... ... ... a deflection from the side (that didn't even stop the attack) clearly requires far less power than actually meeting the strike head-on. Kata could easily be 7-A+ and still perform this feat that requires more timing/precision than actual force. I don't appreciate this one instance being used as "concrete evidence" that somehow Katakuri is = or comparable to Bound Man in power (when he went even with Snake Man, which is weaker but faster).
Also, someone keeps bringing up Luffy referring to Kata as being "tough" when the context implies tough as in "difficult" or "persistent", definitely the former. Has nothing to do with power or durability.
Otherwise, attacks that Katakuri has landed have left Luffy bloody, vomiting blood, incapacitated, or missing parts of his body (which are reflected in the scans shown--granted a few of them are after Luffy began evolving and entered the key where he has 7-A+ dura anyways).
- Minor nit-pick, if you were referring to the kick Kata landed with the "light in the eyes" comment, he wasn't using Haki and was looking to pin Luffy to the wall and suffocate/trap him. But if you mean when Luffy took the punches just before that, he was still badly hurt from the attack--granted still 7-A+ durability anyways since he has other feats of barely withstanding such hits.
Not saying Luffy's Dura is MASSIVELY beneath Kata's AP, but it's still a large gap. Keep in mind that we keep "At least x tier, possibly y tier" because of situations like this:
Gear 4th Bound Man is High 7-A, Katakuri is clearly weaker than Bound-Man in AP/Dura by a considerable margin, but has shown that he is capable of dishing out damage (albeit with Haki) and can still fight competitively--albeit through more complex means than a "head-on" engagement, Luffy with Gear 2nd and 3rd are far inferior to Katakuri's capabilities w/ and w/out awakening (both being ~420MT), so for these reasonings of Kata obviously being >> Gear 2nd/3rd by a pretty large margin, but being less powerful than Bound-Man Luffy, it only makes sense for him to be "At least 7-A+, Possibly High 7-A" as he is clearly >550MT (due to showing feats above Gear 3rd Luffy with casual effort), but <1.26GT due to being physically rag-dolled and injured by Bound-Man Luffy, and having 0 feats of actually clashing with his attacks head-on.
Similarly, after evolving and becoming stronger with Kenbun Haki and in general, Luffy was still beneath Katakuri by a considerable amount--but was still capable of posing a threat and could stop a couple attacks (if only for a moment and inconsistently), hence why his Gear 3rd scales to baseline 7-A+ since he's still inferior to Kata.
And before someone tries to bring up that point of Kata deflecting the Kong-Gun with Power Mochi... ... ... ... a deflection from the side (that didn't even stop the attack) clearly requires far less power than actually meeting the strike head-on. Kata could easily be 7-A+ and still perform this feat that requires more timing/precision than actual force. I don't appreciate this one instance being used as "concrete evidence" that somehow Katakuri is = or comparable to Bound Man in power (when he went even with Snake Man, which is weaker but faster).
Also, someone keeps bringing up Luffy referring to Kata as being "tough" when the context implies tough as in "difficult" or "persistent", definitely the former. Has nothing to do with power or durability.
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