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Just stop quoting me dude.
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One Piece: High 6-A downgrade Pt. 2
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Then maybe get more evidence and less self-pity.
He was overpowered, but he pushed back Zoro much more than S-Hawk did in 1073, plus Zoro's face was slightly bruised after the Kaku Awakened Clash.
Bruising him isn't much, but it's good support, though the main thing is pushing him back much more than S-Hawk.
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There were air slashes going both ways.
Kaku fought him alongside Zoro off-screen.
Kaku and Zoro were being portrayed as comparable, and Kaku wasn't being shown as lagging behind at all.
S-Hawk left because Kaku was one of the people who wouldn't go down easy.
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Afaik the argument Eseseso is bringing is that Kaku > S-Hawk due to their respective performances against Zoro
If I'm being honest I'm more on Mitch's side as far as scaling Kaku and Lucci goes
DaMonkeMan
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Technically you'd have to prove that him scaling to Luffy is logical and consistent. Cause the rest of the fight says otherwise.
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I mean all I'm saying is that he's for sure above Base Luffy and Base Zoro, who at this point are 1 Petatons
He also scales to a casual Gear 5th Luffy
DaMonkeMan
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Aren't they only scaling to 1 Petatons with advanced Haki?
Which FYI he never used on Lucci, so I don't even know how Lucci is scaled to Kaidou from it, cause Luffy used everything he had on Kaidou.
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No, Base Kaidou, even without Haki, is 1 Petaton, backscalers are baseline.
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Yes.
Kaku's Awakened form was overpowered, so he could only scale in durability (since he was unharmed by Buso Zoro).
Zoro was also more serious against Awakened Kaku than S-Hawk.
Why do you think that Base Zoro is 1 petaton without Buso, just curious?
I mean, so far in the arc it's kinda proving to be consistent.
Hybrid Lucci was keeping up with no-Hao G4 Luffy at the end of 1076 and the start of 1077, and Base Lucci is not shown as far behind base Luffy and Zoro (though tbf base Lucci hasn't actually fought the Seraphim yet).
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Base no-Hao Luffy with normal-ass Buso hurt Zoan Kaido.
DaMonkeMan
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And also scales above Kaku, though we just established why that isn't too impressive.
Basically Lucci would be like, Queen level without the G5 bs. Lol.
are you trolling
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Scaling to Base King, I think?
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And the difference is Zoro and S-Hawk clashed while Kaku attacked with said attack striking multiple times. Of course Zoro is going to be pushed back in the air more due to that.
Pretty inconsistent bruise considering Zoro during and after he being attacked didn't have it.
I'm looking at the scan and I don't see that, just Kaku launching his tempest kicks at S-Hawk.
Fighting together and standing next to someone doesn't make them comparable. It doesn't even make sense to claim base Kaku is comparable to Buso Zoro when his Awakened state was overpowered.
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When was this??
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Lucci > Kaku > Guernica > X Drake and Apoo, fairly impressive.
DaMonkeMan
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Meh.
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DaMonkeMan
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I'll bring up the Lucci scaling in a CRT, seems off topic for this thread tbh.
Also I agree with the OP.
Also I agree with the OP.
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That seems best, yes. I’d say when it comes to scaling characters to one another and such, we go with what’s already accepted for this CRT and issues can be resolved in later CRTs
This one’s more so focused on changing the actual values
This one’s more so focused on changing the actual values
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Luffy spits rocks at another same-tier character and they hurt them.
Izou shoots Kaido with normal flintlocks and he screams- I think if you're 5-A and hit someone with something non 5-A, you just transfer your energy into that thing (because it's fiction and needs to make sense)
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True, but Zoro was more serious/angry against Awakened Kaku.
You can see curved air slashes going both ways.
Santoryu Buso Zoro overpowered Awakened Kaku.
Nitoryu Buso Zoro is the one that matched S-Hawk.
Nitoryu Buso Zoro = S-Hawk = Kaku w/ Rokushiki < Awakened Kaku =< Santoryu Zoro.
Mitch linked it above.
No, Guernica can't be included in that statement, since he's considered dead by the WG and that statement of Lucci being the strongest was made way after Wano concluded.
He downscales from 2-handed Sword King since King only used 1 sword to match him.
However, IMO he scales above Base Marco.
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Those rocks didn't hurt Lucci.
I mean he used Armament on them for some reason but still.
Izou has Haki bullets lol
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that answers that tbh. Needing armament for rocks would make no sense otherwise. This the same dude that can eat a cannonball to the face pre-ts without budging an inch
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No it's just Lucci being an idiot.
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@Eseseso @SnookB This discussion may be better saved for the Lucci CRT that @TheMonkeMan mentioned he’d make later
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It's like Kidd badly hurting BM with Punk clash even though it's just normal metal bars.
OK.
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I havent even made it to Egghead yet, but from reading the convo, can't Awakened Lucci's durability downscale from his AP? Getting tossed around by G5 but can clash even for a moment?
Edit: ignore this I didn't see the other comment
Edit: ignore this I didn't see the other comment
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Imma just close this shit until the calc in the OP is done being discussed cause yall spent a whole ******* page talking about useless shit
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