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One Piece Chapter 995: "Kunoichi's Oath" (Official Release)
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Queen has some interest in the Germa, guess his original thought matchup between Sanji might be building itself up to happen
Marco fighting Big mom showing the admirals and Yonko are equals.
Chopper getting ice demon, not much is known yet, if anyone's ever heard about the infamous 2009 spoilers then there was something about chopper dying to Kaido, doubt a Strawhat (especially chopper) will die. If it was to happen I guess this is a possibility. I wonder if Chopper can resist losing his mind from the ice demon virus due to mastering monster point.
Marco fighting Big mom showing the admirals and Yonko are equals.
Chopper getting ice demon, not much is known yet, if anyone's ever heard about the infamous 2009 spoilers then there was something about chopper dying to Kaido, doubt a Strawhat (especially chopper) will die. If it was to happen I guess this is a possibility. I wonder if Chopper can resist losing his mind from the ice demon virus due to mastering monster point.
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Linlin grabs him with the opportunity to damage him then tosses him aside because she isn't interested in petty fights.
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I think there's a reason for her throwing him aside, but it's blatantly shown he's clashing with her as an equal (of At least in a comparable range). Similar thing he did with Akainu.
She held him so Perospero could kill him, but then dropped him since she didn't have a soul to use on him (taking this to mean she couldn't overcome his regeneration) & by petty this doesn't seem to mean he's weaker but rather she's got more important battles to take part in (Luffy who she came to wano for)
She held him so Perospero could kill him, but then dropped him since she didn't have a soul to use on him (taking this to mean she couldn't overcome his regeneration) & by petty this doesn't seem to mean he's weaker but rather she's got more important battles to take part in (Luffy who she came to wano for)
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Also it looks like Drake and Zoro came out of the Don attack unschathed (attack that knocked out base Luffy)
And hybrid Drake and Nitoryu Zoro both overpowered Apoo, seems all three of them are using haki.
And hybrid Drake and Nitoryu Zoro both overpowered Apoo, seems all three of them are using haki.
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Marco vs Big Mom looks like Marco vs Akainu at marineford, actually. This is a solid proof for Admirals being comparable to Yonkos.
Sanji and Zoro confirmed by Queen to be the strongest men in the crew. It's 100% confirmed that Queen will fight Sanji or Zoro, more likely the Vinsmoke since he talked about Judge.
I didn't expect Apoo to be capable to hand Zoro and Drake at the same time, since he should be under Page One according to ranks, right?
Poor my boy Usopp and my girl Nami. I hope that Usopp will awake some haki powers inside him so that he can have a rematch against Ulti.
Nami has to take Zeus back and defeat Page One.
Sanji and Zoro confirmed by Queen to be the strongest men in the crew. It's 100% confirmed that Queen will fight Sanji or Zoro, more likely the Vinsmoke since he talked about Judge.
I didn't expect Apoo to be capable to hand Zoro and Drake at the same time, since he should be under Page One according to ranks, right?
Poor my boy Usopp and my girl Nami. I hope that Usopp will awake some haki powers inside him so that he can have a rematch against Ulti.
Nami has to take Zeus back and defeat Page One.
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With the Zoro and Sanji thing it may just be due to Queen not knowing Jinbe is in the crew tbf, although what is interesting is he deems bounty the rank of fighter. So if King is greater than his bounty we can solidify the whole King > Queen > Jack since that seems to be Queens comparison point to determine Sanju and Zoro as the 2nd and 3rd best fighters.
I'm pretty sure we decided at their strongest the flying six would be = to Apoo. Both Zoro and Drake overpowered Apoo so I don't see any issue with the scaling, Apoo used haki which doesn't get taken into account for his stats so it should be fine imo.
I'm pretty sure we decided at their strongest the flying six would be = to Apoo. Both Zoro and Drake overpowered Apoo so I don't see any issue with the scaling, Apoo used haki which doesn't get taken into account for his stats so it should be fine imo.
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I mean, everyone in the Island is aware of Jinbe's presence, even fodders.
Also, King is of course stronger than Queen, but the difference between Queen and Jack is huge, while Queen and King's difference is probably small according to portray.
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Yeah they're aware of his presence but I don't think that means they're aware he joined the strawhats, they're aware that Law and Kid are on the island as well but aren't assuming they're strawhats either.
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How is this comparable to Admirals vs Marco? The Admirals literally could not get past Marco. She effectively beat him in a single panel and could have attack him further herself. She outright says she's not interested in little fights. A mighty reach to use this to equate admirals to emperors. Based on her character, and that of the other emperors, they personally fight those they consider a threat and don't like others interfering. She was fine with letting Perospero finish him off.
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Well, Tama is here to save the day. We will see if her power can work on a real Zoan user like Ulti and Page One and not just SMILE user. If it can, oh boy, combine with Usopp’s sniping abilities, Beast Pirates’s chances of winning are not going to look good.
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Stop derailing the thread, that's already happened in nearly every other chapter thread so far. Admirals Vs Marco during marineford aren't relevant to the discussion here and shouldn't be dragged into the discussion.
Marco however did show he could clash equally with Big Mom, Marco last chapter was praised by Big Mom, but at the end of the day she doesn't want to waste time fighting someone she can't harm when her goal (Luffy) is getting further away from her.
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Stop backseat moderating when someone states something you don't like to hear. It was not an equal clash. Admirals never overpowered Marco even in extended panels. They clash once with her block with prometheus. Once she figures out that won't work on him, she grabs him like by his neck like a rubber chicken. There is literally no comparison to be made here.
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I'm backaeating moderating? I'm telling you not to derail the thread from the chapter discussion since it's happened so many times before in previous ones.
Also grabbing Marco and holding him like that only proves she has superior lifting strength, they clashed as equals, live with it.
Also grabbing Marco and holding him like that only proves she has superior lifting strength, they clashed as equals, live with it.
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Yeah seems he should. Maybe we should treat it as limited NPI (limited only to fire or whatever) since it seems to be due to Marco's flames being special. I imagine he wouldn't be able to do that to Zeus.
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Marco should logically be one of the most broken characters in One Piece. Since his flame ability is actually instant healing rather than provide Logia intangibility - he really can't be permanently taken down without either seastone weaponry or restraints or by the Yami Yami no Mi (Although Big Mom could potentially rip his soul out if she's able to make him fearful)
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I'm pretty sure even Ace/Sabo would be able to interact with Prometheus
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No, they cannot. He would eat their fire. Homies uptake their respective elements for sustenance.
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@RoyGundam Idk about Ace and Sabo because Prometheus is too made of pure fire, I imagine they would cancel each other. Akainu may be able to interact since his magma burns even fire.
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Imagine Sabo taming Prometheus by feeding him tasty fires
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Bump fan translations are out
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One Word: Chadrco.
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Unopp will be fine. All he need to do is drink some milk and he will be as good as new with no broken bones. It works very well if Brooks and Luffy are any indication.
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Nami was crying this chapter, I wonder if we will get the whole "woman's tears" thing from Sanji and he will come to their rescue.
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I doubt it. There seems to be buildup for Queen vs Sanji and/or Zoro
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Kinda looks bad for Sanji since that's his whole gimmick coming in with clutch saves/plans etc.
Yet he's gonna leave Usopp and Nami on the verge of death fighting opponents that clearly far outmatch them just so he can escort Luffy (which Jinbe is already doing now). I was going to forgive it initially assuming that Usopp and Nami could handle them in a fight but it's clear they can't and Sanji should have known that considering he's fought page one.
Yet he's gonna leave Usopp and Nami on the verge of death fighting opponents that clearly far outmatch them just so he can escort Luffy (which Jinbe is already doing now). I was going to forgive it initially assuming that Usopp and Nami could handle them in a fight but it's clear they can't and Sanji should have known that considering he's fought page one.
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It's not that big of a deal. Both Nami and Usopp have been in desperate battles and won when we'd normally assume they would be no match. Don't forget that Nami beat Miss Doublefinger and Kalifa all on her own, when she should have gotten steamrolled based on prior power scaling
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Tbf I think those moments are a bit different. I think it's clear that both of them put up a fight already but got completely decimated. They might still be able to pull off a win idk.
I don't think Sanji coming and saving them would take away the chance of a battle with Queen tbf.
I don't think Sanji coming and saving them would take away the chance of a battle with Queen tbf.
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It's important for all of the strawhat members to grow in strength. I hate watching the monster trio handle every fight. This fight could be a pivotal moment for the growth of Nami and Usopp. The only strawhat members who have conclusively won any fight against a major antagonist character so far in the new world are Luffy, Zoro, Franky and Brook. That is something that strongly needs to change in Wano
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I agree that they need fights that they can grow from, but at the same time I can't help but feel if they're this weakened after dealing no damage to Page One and Ulti there isn't realistically much chance for them to win. I wanted to see them grow from this fight but it doesn't seem like that will happen entirely from their own power here, I'd rather see a cool Sanji save then Usopp and Nami running away on Tama's dog like it seems to be building up for.
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Finally Marco gets a new ability under his wing: Soul Manipulation (Damage)
Not that it interferes with power-scaling, Big Mom looks impressive defeating him in one panel and letting her son get the kill since they have history.
Sidenote: love to get some flashbacks of Marco and Peorin in battle.
Speaking or Peorin, poor guy can't catch a break. He's right that he was the victim of a suicide bomb and not the murderer, but minks are in denial about that.
Its not surprising that Queen knows who Judge is. Remember he is the brains behind the artificial Devil Fruits. Still it would be interesting if we find out they has some history together as scientists.
Apoo looks impressive as well but I wouldn't say it is equal. He's being overwhelmed by the numbers.
Good spot on Nami for sticking to her guns even though it is dumb. Uncharacteristic for her but I guess that is just showing her dedication to Luffy.
Usoop's endurance may need an upgrade after Ulti broke his skull.
Still my favourite moment was Chopper. I hope he gets a chance to show off his chemist skills heroes the doctor of the straw hats with big dreams to be the best healer. Maybe it will be him and Sanji VS Queen in some mad scientist action.
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Not that it interferes with power-scaling, Big Mom looks impressive defeating him in one panel and letting her son get the kill since they have history.
Sidenote: love to get some flashbacks of Marco and Peorin in battle.
Speaking or Peorin, poor guy can't catch a break. He's right that he was the victim of a suicide bomb and not the murderer, but minks are in denial about that.
Its not surprising that Queen knows who Judge is. Remember he is the brains behind the artificial Devil Fruits. Still it would be interesting if we find out they has some history together as scientists.
Apoo looks impressive as well but I wouldn't say it is equal. He's being overwhelmed by the numbers.
Good spot on Nami for sticking to her guns even though it is dumb. Uncharacteristic for her but I guess that is just showing her dedication to Luffy.
Usoop's endurance may need an upgrade after Ulti broke his skull.
Still my favourite moment was Chopper. I hope he gets a chance to show off his chemist skills heroes the doctor of the straw hats with big dreams to be the best healer. Maybe it will be him and Sanji VS Queen in some mad scientist action.
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Checked the panel again, Looks like both Zeus and Prometheus are both knocked out based off their eyes, so I guess Marco damaged both of them? Or was that from Brook previously?
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I think either Chopper finds a cure, or Marco's flames are a counter to the ice demon plague, hope it's the former. Actually, since Marco's flames heals others at a much slower rate, what if he instead pocket heals Chopper who could try and make a cure utilizing Marco's flames and pull off a Vegapunk?
