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One Piece Chapter 1072: The Weight of Memory (Official Translation)

TheMonkeMan said:
Lucci is a very active fighter, and we know he's been fighting people like the Revolutionaries and may have even tried to fight Blackbeard and his crew at Baltigo.
Yet he never awakened his fruit until recently.
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That's for his post TS self, which would obviously be when he started to use his DF and go through near-death situations that led to his Awakening.

As for Awakening it recently, he went 5 years without using it, while Kaku got his and went through the same things as Lucci that you listed.
TheMonkeMan said:
And the thing is, Lucci's fruit is more simplistic than the others you've listed, it should reasonably be more easy to awaken.
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So is Kaku's, so i am not sure how awakening the Giraffe Model would place him above Lucci.
TheMonkeMan said:
Also I doubt Buso G5 is that much higher than Buso Zoro with 2/3 swords.
Luffy was using basic Armament and one arm, Zoro used 3 swords and 2 arms along with Armament.
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Base Luffy and Base Zoro should be comparable, meanwhile Luffy's Buso from the start of the Raid is already 5 layers iirc, while Zoro only got there during his fight with King.

Luffy went through a lot of shit during the Raid so it would make sense for his haki to currently be > his start of the raid Haki and at the same level as Kaido's for example (6 layers of buso scaling).

Then you can add G5 on top of that which makes him even stronger, probably stronger than G2 and closer to Snakeman and non-compression Boundman.
 
Lucci has no excuse, dude's been fighting for years and only recently awakened his fruit while Kaku awakened in 2 years or less.
Not to mention that even when Kaku was constantly getting his attacks blocked and slammed into the ground he got up easily, Lucci wasn't so lucky.
 
This Lucci talk reminds me of something I read yesterday of someone explaining why Lucci is YC1 level.

He pointed out that YC2/3 people stand next to no chance in a straight fight with a yonko and need either a sneak attack or incredibly favorable circumstances just to hurt them.

Lucci was throwing hands in a straight up fight with a yonko.
 
Eseseso said:
This Lucci talk reminds me of something I read yesterday of someone explaining why Lucci is YC1 level.

He pointed out that YC2/3 people stand next to no chance in a straight fight with a yonko and need either a sneak attack or incredibly favorable circumstances just to hurt them.

Lucci was throwing hands in a straight up fight with a yonko.
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Yeah okay buddy.
Meanwhile, Marco:
FN5DszkWYAM_FY4

Not to mention Benn Beckman.
Sabo who at least briefly clashed with 2 Admirals.
Zoro scarring Kaidou.
Etc.
Lt's not act like First Commanders haven't had feats comparable to, or better than, Lucci's. Because all Lucci did is one clash.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Yeah okay buddy.
Meanwhile, Marco:
FN5DszkWYAM_FY4

Not to mention Benn Beckman.
Sabo who at least briefly clashed with 2 Admirals.
Zoro scarring Kaidou.
Etc.
Lt's not act like First Commanders haven't had feats comparable to, or better than, Lucci's. Because all Lucci did is one clash.
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Uh, these are all also YC1 people, so it makes sense that their feats are >= Lucci's.

Lucci also took a G5 beatdown and was pretty fine afterwards.

TheMonkeMan said:
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This is hilarious in retrospect
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Also makes her saying that Pudding looks like a young version of her interesting, to say the least.

Same with her attacking that crime lord for calling her old.
 
Eseseso said:
Uh, these are all also YC1 people, so it makes sense that their feats are >= Lucci's.

Lucci also took a G5 beatdown and was pretty fine afterwards.
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I mean, thanks to his Zoan recovery, those attacks were kind of basic and he still got put to sleep by em.
Eseseso said:
Also makes her saying that Pudding looks like a young version of her interesting, to say the least.

Same with her attacking that crime lord for calling her old.
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Said crime lord is named Du Feld iirc, and he funded MADS.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
He might get upgraded for that short clash with the Admirals if they really did anything, but let's wait.
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Actually...I might be making a CRT for High 6-A Issho and Sabo soon.

Even @KingTempest supports High 6-A Sabo to the best of my knowledge.

TheMonkeMan said:
Fujitora and Aramaki
I realized the latter doesn't actually have any solid H6A feats though so..
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Stomped 5 Scabbards.

Unharmed by a Momo bite that hurt Kaido.

Took a Hao Infused Yamato blow (keep in mind Base Yamato w/ Hao Infusion matched a blow from Hybrid Kaido w/ Hao Infusion and made Base Kaido bleed) and was only slightly hurt.

Pierced no-flame King's skin, which took 2 Hao-Infused attacks from Zoro (the first of which also had Enma infused in it), and was relatively fine besides from some bleeding.
 
Eseseso said:
Actually...I might be making a CRT for High 6-A Issho and Sabo soon.

Even @KingTempest supports High 6-A Sabo to the best of my knowledge.
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Okay, I'll support it.
Eseseso said:
Stomped 5 Scabbards.
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He confused and restrained them ( remember, this is their first time seeing a Logia ), not really AP though.
Eseseso said:
Unharmed by a Momo bite that hurt Kaido.
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Because it's not a Haki infused bite..
Eseseso said:
Took a Hao Infused Yamato blow (keep in mind Base Yamato w/ Hao Infusion matched a blow from Hybrid Kaido w/ Hao Infusion and made Base Kaido bleed) and was only slightly hurt.
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It notably gave him a headache but yeah I guess that's fair.
Eseseso said:
Pierced no-flame King's skin, which took 2 Hao-Infused attacks from Zoro (the first of which also had Enma infused in it), and was relatively fine besides from some bleeding.
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Pretty sure King was still heavily injured from his fight with Zoro.
 
Eseseso said:
Unharmed by a Momo bite that hurt Kaido.
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He doesn't have buso
Eseseso said:
Pierced no-flame King's skin, which took 2 Hao-Infused attacks from Zoro (the first of which also had Enma infused in it), and was relatively fine besides from some bleeding.
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Not a valid method of scaling, King was cut open & bleeding from both attacks. He was fine due to his endurance & recovery but was clearly still bleeding.
 
Eseseso said:
What are you talking about?
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Aramaki is a Logia.
Logia users can not be hurt by attacks that do not have their elemental counter, seastone, or Haki imbued in it.
Momo does not have Armament Haki, thus he can not hurt Aramaki.
Eseseso said:
King had just as much time to heal as Zoro did, and Zoro was in worse condition.
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King was in prison and Zoro had a bunch of people washing him and taking care of his wounds.
 
Eseseso said:
Zoro was in worse shape than King yet he recovered in a week, so King should've recovered as well
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I'm talking about when King actually took the two hits not a week later, he was cut open bleeding that isn't a durability feat or something you can scale aramaki to.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Also Bonnie's fruit isn't a completely superior fruit to Shinobu's since it's aging effects are only temporary on living things while Shinobu permanently age's anything she wants.
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Tbf, that gives Bonney a lot more control.

Like if she aged someone so they were old and threatened them to do something or she wouldn't reverse it.

Shinobu's is permanent, hers isn't
 
Some people are saying that the old hag that told Orochi about his lineage might have turned into miss Stussy Buckingham (Bakkin) in Chapter 965 when she was showing off her DF powers.
 
Eseseso said:
Tbf, that gives Bonney a lot more control.

Like if she aged someone so they were old and threatened them to do something or she wouldn't reverse it.

Shinobu's is permanent, hers isn't
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Agreed, it's the much better fruit. But some people are making it out to be as if Shinobu has the inferior fruit in ever aspect.
 
Okay.... question so Stussy is No.1 do u think there will be Num.0 coz u know in one piece crocodile was Mr.0 so its highly possible to happen.

what if Kaido that luffy fought was Num.0 and thats why he doesnt have awakning and in the future we will see the real kaido :):):) (nah jk~ but if this happens ill die from hype) so maybe Num.0 is weevil idk but its very possible to see a number 0 in the future.
 
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