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One Piece Chapter 1033: "Shimotsuki Kozaburo" (Official Release)

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Eminiteable said:
Where's this coming from?
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Zoro is already matching Oden's Haki output, but only when he pushes his own Haki to the limit. The sword Enma, remembers how much Haki Oden used to feed it and is trying to draw the same out of Zoro too
 
RoyGundam said:
It's still Zoro's power. His Haki, pushed to the limit.
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This is true at least.

Anyway, everybody please remember to not let this discussion turn hostile. One Piece is a fun manga, and we should try to have fun talking about it.
 
Zoro needs to push his Haki to the very limit to draw out the amount of Haki someone like Oden do on a casual basis. Zoro states he is not strong enough to do that, so saying Zoro would be able to drawn out this amount of Haki by "getting used to the sword" is not reasonable. Zoro needs to get stronger, plain and simple.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Zoro needs to push his Haki to the very limit to draw out the amount of Haki someone like Oden do on a casual basis. Zoro states he is not strong enough to do that, so saying Zoro would be able to drawn out this amount of Haki by "getting used to the sword" is not reasonable. Zoro needs to get stronger, plain and simple.
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Of course. By "getting used to the sword" I meant being able to use it freely like Oden used to do.
 
RoyGundam said:
BTW this chapter has a couple of important implications for Zoro power-scaling wise that needs to be mentioned:
1. There is no such thing as "Zoro with Enma". Enma is not a powerup for Zoro
2. Zoro using his Haki to the limit is about equal to Oden
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Enma was specifically said to draw out all of Zoro's haki.
BASICALLY Enma isn't a power up, it's just forcing 100% of Zoro's armament haki out, but with every swing. That's why Zoro ends up breathing heavily whenever he swung at Kaido even though he was still in good condition. Enma suddenly had him throwing out his full storage of Haki in one swing.
 
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If Zoro can continue fighting this late into it while going 100% the WHOLE TIME, he's on Oden's tier without a doubt. Assuming he can actually consistently put out 100% of his haki into Enma, like Oden, WITHOUT failing too early.
For now, "Zoro with Enma" stays, but it'll likely be a Onigashima Key thing only, if he adapts afterwards or we see him finally consistently using Enma without losing out-put of Haki. If next chapter shows him doing that, chances are there'll be a Post-King key for Zoro since his Haki output will always match 100% of what he was against Kaido, after the King fight.
Also judging by how King reacted, either he's still confident, or he also has Conqueror's.
 
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also....does anybody here have a eyeballed ballpark of what the explosion could yield??

Or does Onigashima's size need to be sorted out first??
 
Jieldre said:
also....does anybody here have a eyeballed ballpark of what the explosion could yield??

Or does Onigashima's size need to be sorted out first??
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Yes.

Seems to be in the "not even worth calculating" range. Destroying a part of the island might give off Mountain Level results.
 
I Agree for Zoro got POWER UP by wielding Enma, Enma forced Zoro to used his haki out of control, if that so Zoro becomes accustomed to what Enma need for Haki, this will be a Power Up as well or a disaster for Zoro if he is not able to follow what Enma wants like Kozaburo said, Zoro is still far from Oden's level. But in the end of this Chapter likely Zoro can Push his Limit to near of Oden level.
 
I've got a theory about King's Race and what Lunarians are

It's gonna be something like King's body isn't actually his body. Lunarians are a race of tiny people that ride mechs or are flat out mechs themselves, and the mechs are super durable and adaptable, which is what King's "body" is. We know inanimate objects can eat and wield the power of Devil Fruits, so maybe the Lunarians found out the secret to how that's done first and also had access to mechs and advanced technology. The World Government stole that technology to make Pacifista's and erased the Lunarians so that people who know that technology and how to manipulate Devil Fruits isn't revealed. The reason King is so desperate to hide his body is because underneath it all, he's a robot with wires and gears. We know that Enel found machines and robots on the moon, so it really wouldn't be that farfetched. We literally see King explode this chapter.

It's a crack theory, but I think it's something Oda would do.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
I've got a theory about King's Race and what Lunarians are

It's gonna be something like King's body isn't actually his body. Lunarians are a race of tiny people that ride mechs or are flat out mechs themselves, and the mechs are super durable and adaptable, which is what King's "body" is. We know inanimate objects can eat and wield the power of Devil Fruits, so maybe the Lunarians found out the secret to how that's done first and also had access to mechs and advanced technology. The World Government stole that technology to make Pacifista's and erased the Lunarians so that people who know that technology and how to manipulate Devil Fruits isn't revealed. The reason King is so desperate to hide his body is because underneath it all, he's a robot with wires and gears. We know that Enel found machines and robots on the moon, so it really wouldn't be that farfetched. We literally see King explode this chapter.

It's a crack theory, but I think it's something Oda would do.
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Interesting theory. Could be possible
 
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