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While he was born with Conquerer Haki and the voice of all things does that really matter when you are facing a Yonko?
Advanced Haoshoku seems to be enough to damage Kaido, you know...
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While he was born with Conquerer Haki and the voice of all things does that really matter when you are facing a Yonko?
Exactly..Advanced Haoshoku seems to be enough to damage Kaido, you know...
If Advanced Haoshoku were that easy to learn, Doffy and Katakuri would have done that long time ago.Advanced Haoshoku seems to be enough to damage Kaido, you know...
That's why we are saying we are hoping that that would NOT happen. You are literally explaining the obvious.Even Luffy himself needed a lot of time to learn advanced Haki types, are people seriously suggesting Momo who can't even control Haoshoku properly now can suddenly evolve his Haoshoku Haki to the same level as Kaido's?
Oh come on! That's the most unrealistic assumption I've ever came across and this is definitely not how Haki works. You don't simply learn Advanced Haki by getting matured, did anyone seriously forgot what Rayleigh told Luffy? He cannot teach him the advanced types, but only the basics; in the heat of a fight his rudimentary Haki types with a bit luck evolves into advanced Haki.
If that were so easy literally everyone could have done that, there would be no point for Doffy fearing Kaido, heck alone serving under him when it literally took almost all people from Dressrosa to beat him...
I am questioning why are people worrying about one of the worst "what if" moment, it's not Oda's style to pull that off, remember when it was revealed that there exist a time fruit? People were worried about inconsistencies and plot holes, but it's Oda we are talking about, he masterfully saved himself from the whole timelines shenanigans and satisfied his readers simultaneously. Put your trust on Oda, how long have you been reading one piece to ever realize that it's not Oda's style to randomly give characters Advanced Haki? Only very few characters have Advanced Haki, and only 4-6 among 70+ One piece characters learned Advanced Conquerer Haki, to quote Kaido " Only the strongest can learn Advanced Conquerer Haki, Shanks, Whitebeard, Oden and his captain in the background" while saying that to Luffy.That's why we are saying we are hoping that that would NOT happen. You are literally explaining the obvious.
Yep would be great if it is just Momo supporting while Luffy Yamato face Kaido head on. Though, no matter how I see it, I can't see Momo taking a single hit from Kaido that wouldn't one-shot him, unless his Mythcial Zoan durability is so potent that it can save him from a Yonko's attack.I am questioning why are people worrying about one of the worst "what if" moment, it's not Oda's style to pull that off, remember when it was revealed that there exist a time fruit? People were worried about inconsistencies and plot holes, but it's Oda we are talking about, he masterfully saved himself from the whole timelines shenanigans and satisfied his readers simultaneously. Put your trust on Oda, how long have you been reading one piece to ever realize that it's not Oda's style to randomly give characters Advanced Haki? Only very few characters have Advanced Haki, and only 4-6 among 70+ One piece characters learned Advanced Conquerer Haki, to quote Kaido " Only the strongest can learn Advanced Conquerer Haki, Shanks, Whitebeard, Oden and his captain in the background" while saying that to Luffy.
Oda will probably make him have a fire breathing battle, while Luffy assists him. Momo is just there for support and not suddenly beating Kaido, I can see him being conscious or something like that and Luffy and Yamato fighting Hybrid Kaido on the ground.
Haki is still rare though. Barely anyone in the Grandline is aware of the existence of Haki, it's not public knowledgeable, after all, due to the WG pulling their strings behind the events, in order to prevent the pirates from getting stronger and all.Yep would be great if it is just Momo supporting while Luffy Yamato face Kaido head on. Though, no matter how I see it, I can't see Momo taking a single hit from Kaido that wouldn't one-shot him, unless his Mythcial Zoan durability is so potent that it can save him from a Yonko's attack.
The reason why i start worrying that Advanced CoC would slowly become free for all is because now we are also revealed that Yamato also has ACoC. Although I can accept that, since Yamato being Kaido's daughter + Yamato has been constantly fighting and losing against Kaido for 20 years would make it logical that she had the talent + 20 years of hardwork put into mastering the ACoC. it miight be the start of a trend of more and more characters using ACoC and we start to see Black lightnings in every fight from here onwards - akin to how Haki was something so rare before but now pretty much everyone has it. And with Momo being the main character of this arc, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that Oda might pull off something like this on Momo.
Wait didn't Zoro already show a glimpse of Advanced conqueror's when he scared Kaido?Zoro is the only among monster trio who doesn't have advanced Haki lel.
Nah, that was just Conquerer Haki mixed with Enma.Wait didn't Zoro already show a glimpse of Advanced conqueror's when he scared Kaido?
Also what advanced Haki does Saji have? Observation? It was never mentioned though.
Oh really? Do you have source or scans?Nah, that was just Conquerer Haki mixed with Enma.
Sanji is confirmed to have Advanced Kenbunshoku Haki, confirmed in the Vivre card Databook.
Oh really? Do you have source or scans?
“By reading the movement of signs and emotions, you can grasp the surrounding situation and avoid danger. Some people see the future a little ahead due to extraordinary discipline.”
(i believe tempest or emit probably know which vivre card they are referring to)
Yeah i get it. Just wait for Tempest to send you the link or something like that, the link above is the only one i could find.“By reading the movement of signs and emotions, you can grasp the surrounding situation and avoid danger. Some people see the future a little ahead due to extraordinary discipline.”
This is the full translation I found online for this scan. Although they did use Sanji dodging the jelly bean as an example of Obeservation Haki, the "Some people see the future" in nowhere implied that it is about Sanji though and was more likely referencing Katakuri if anything. So far we haven't seen Sanji "see the future" yet if you get what I mean?
This is false equivalency, part one naruto did not go on a rampage and best madara, hashirama or the god tiers.Is this the Naruto PTSD speaking? Usopp's father is a legendary sniper, Chopper was taught by one of the best doctor in the Grandline, Sanji was trained by Red leg Zeff, Luffy's family like being Garp and Dragon, etc etc.
Yes, you already know all these things but what you didn't know is It's nothing like Naruto when all their strength comes from their heritage. The Strawhats worked incredibly hard to get where they are. Zoro is constantly training and doesn't ever let his heritage carry him. Did Zoro defeated any of his enemies because "I'm special?". No! The three-swords style is a technique that he only himself created, he underwent superhuman training when he was a child with no rest(even as we speak he's still training to become stronger).
Did Usopp ever won any of his fights because he is "special", not a single one he won was because of him being special, he won most fights by psychologically scarring the hell out of his enemies and using strategies/bluffs to bait his enemies into believing what he says. Sanji, despite being special lost to characters who are not special. Heritages means nothing in One piece did heritage stopped Ace from getting Donut'd by Akainu? (Ace is Gol D Roger's son for heaven's sake) Did heritage stopped Luffy from getting curb-stomped by almost everyone in the war just to come to the realization that he was too weak and was on the verge of giving up his dream. This isn't Naruto where Luffy goes rage mode and beats Kuma, Sentomaru, Kizaru, Akainu, Ajokiji, etc etc, in fact they fodderized him even harder. If heritage mattered then why would Luffy lost to these guys?
The only way to change what a FS user sees is with your own FS, the visual effect (the "2nd Sanji") is the same as Luffy's when trying it for the first time.So far we haven't seen Sanji "see the future"
Meh, so far we only have 3 confirmed, also, Kata's isn't passive, he needs focus to use it.Preeeetty certain a lot of decent Observation users have Future-Sight. Katakuri's was a big deal because he could see further by seconds and it was passive.
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At least the page in the wiki for clairvoyance makes no mention to seeing the future (well, it does say that the version with that is the precog page).If that's passive, it's not even a precog anymore but rather a clairvoyance
It's just sad ... The clear lack of blood hurt DBS too (another Toei show)Showing Innumerous amounts of crotch shots to young audiences is fine but red blood isn’t