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So they became massively stronger by sitting and doing nothing in one day?
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Ok, Let's Talk Kashin Koji (Boruto CRT)
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Kinda yeah.
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Some mentioned it can be reactive power level or something.
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just split the keys up.
it's common in Fiction for characters to get stronger because the Plot demands it.
this type of scaling has happened in the War arc aswell.
Is it possible that Ishikki was holding back?
it's common in Fiction for characters to get stronger because the Plot demands it.
this type of scaling has happened in the War arc aswell.
Is it possible that Ishikki was holding back?
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Thanks Shadow. Naruto has gotten plot needed amps before, so just new keys is ok.
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Yeah, he clearly was going all out, he didn’t have too much time to get Kawaki.
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yeah then just make two keys, if anything I think we should split the keys for adult Naruto in terms of Arcs anyway.
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Not sure if EVERY arc needs a key, but yeah.
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no not every arc, just the relevant ones.
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I gotcha.
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Just have a Pre Kawaki Arc and Post Kawaki Arc or something.
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After Jigen (possessed by Isshiki) beat Naruto and Sasuke, he teleported back and was informed by Amado that it should take him 2 days to fully recover.
Then, when Koji returned to kill him, Amado informed him that the dude hadn't even regained 10% and that was a good opportunity.
So in hours but not even a day, Naruto and Sasuke managed to have some mental training and became massively stronger than before. Is that even possible? I think we should have proper justifications for them to be that strong in such a short time. We can't write their justifications such as: (Became massively stronger than before due to plot).
Then, when Koji returned to kill him, Amado informed him that the dude hadn't even regained 10% and that was a good opportunity.
So in hours but not even a day, Naruto and Sasuke managed to have some mental training and became massively stronger than before. Is that even possible? I think we should have proper justifications for them to be that strong in such a short time. We can't write their justifications such as: (Became massively stronger than before due to plot).
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No, they got stronger cause of better feats. This shit has happened before, we aren’t pulling them getting stronger out of our asses.
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either that or we treat Jigen vs naruto and Sasuke as Anti feats or the Ishikki fight as an Outlier.
though I still stand by what I said earlier, that it's entirely possible for characters to have different performances in a fight even if they don't grow in power. same as how a boxer can have an on and off day.
though I still stand by what I said earlier, that it's entirely possible for characters to have different performances in a fight even if they don't grow in power. same as how a boxer can have an on and off day.
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Sorry but there's no way that characters just got ten times stronger in a day by doing nothing.
It's an inconsistency, not an excuse to say they got massively stronger for no reason.
I'd sooner believe that Kashin Koji & weakened Jigen are ten times weaker than what we're rating them as than Naruto and Sasuke getting ten times stronger.
It's an inconsistency, not an excuse to say they got massively stronger for no reason.
I'd sooner believe that Kashin Koji & weakened Jigen are ten times weaker than what we're rating them as than Naruto and Sasuke getting ten times stronger.
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Can't they get reactive power levels and be done with it? I mean Naruto showwed that against Juubito already
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Fine, fine. Damage, what do you think of the other stuff for joshpiece’s scaling?
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Sakura is actually ftl, not a joke.
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correct me if I’m wrong but it’s been stated that Naruto and Sasuke fighting together is an “amp” greater than the sum of its parts no? We’ve seen that Naruto and Sasuke’s “teamwork” allowed them to fight against Kaguya despite being clearly outclassed.
Also in the end of the day SPSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke could do nothing substantial to Isshiki, it took Baryon Mode Naruto before any real damage was done. You can argue their better performance came from knowing how Jigen/Isshiki fights and not because they got stronger.
So, I feel like just scaling SM KK, Isshiki, Baryon Mode Naruto, and I guess Code to Low 5-B works.
Also in the end of the day SPSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke could do nothing substantial to Isshiki, it took Baryon Mode Naruto before any real damage was done. You can argue their better performance came from knowing how Jigen/Isshiki fights and not because they got stronger.
So, I feel like just scaling SM KK, Isshiki, Baryon Mode Naruto, and I guess Code to Low 5-B works.
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This.
I say we just view the Naruto and Sasuke performance as outliers or PIS rn and @Fastestthingalive50 can make his argument as well as a couple other people for maybe RPL or some other way to explain the jump in power at a different time.
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I’ll make it when my pc gets fixed.
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This is the only way the scaling makes sense is naruto and sasuke fought jigen 100%. Jigens body weakens post fight to the point were hes at less than 10%. In which base koji beats 10% jigen. So 100% jigen is low 5C while 10% is multi continental+.
The reactive power level argument is complete none sense. It's implied like twice base on the fact they couldn't beat jigen they can't be isshiki. Even stated by Sasuke himself they were not equal to him until baryon mode. Naruto and sasuke didn't do much at all to isshiki. Only thing naruto did was grab him with chakra arms for like 1 sec. And hit him while he was off guard talking to boruto.
The reactive power level argument is complete none sense. It's implied like twice base on the fact they couldn't beat jigen they can't be isshiki. Even stated by Sasuke himself they were not equal to him until baryon mode. Naruto and sasuke didn't do much at all to isshiki. Only thing naruto did was grab him with chakra arms for like 1 sec. And hit him while he was off guard talking to boruto.
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ShadowBonkuro makes sense to me.
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This argument has been debunked numerous times now
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Some panels to help evaluate:
Jigen didn't kill off Naruto because it would take too much Chakra.
Jigen almost collapses, and the crystal on his torso cracks, due to expending too much Chakra against Naruto and Sasuke.
Koji believes that Naruto has no chance of defeating Jigen, and if Sasuke showed up their chance will only be minimal. He concluded that if Jigen expended too much Chakra then it would be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where he might be able to defeat Jigen.
Amado says that Jigen has almost zero Chakra left after fighting Naruto and Sasuke, and that it will take him two entire days to fully recover his Chakra. (Jigen is cybernetically enhanced, so the crystal was likely later fixed by Amado off-screen)
Amado informs Koji that Jigen is still recharging and hasn't even recovered 10% (either power or Chakra). Koji is wary of Boro and Code.
Jigen barrely started recovering from fighting Naruto and Sasuke according to Amado.
According to Amado, since Jigen was severely drained against Naruto and Sasuke, it is a perfect opportunity for Koji to defeat Jigen that will never be seen again; it is now or never.
While the relationship between Chakra and power is not 1:1, less Chakra leads to less power.
The amount of Chakra is also unrelated to whether Isshiki reincarnates or not. Mini-Isshiki was physically puppetering Jigen's body and have at one point implanted a Karma on him. If Mini-Isshiki dies, then he will revive via. Karma, but since Jigen's body is the only one that has a complete Karma he'll have to reincarnate through an incompatible vessel that will only last a few days.
Boro is stated to have comparable combat ability to Code, and Code is stated to be more powerful than Delta. But most would say that Boro is inferior physically but makes it up through hax (I guess the anime gave him invisible instant-death gas/virus, and enough range to poison entire farmlands). Koji had no choice but to fight Delta before Amado stepped in, and it is possible for him to defeat her through hax.
'Low Chakra' is how Boruto have notoriously severely nerfed Sasuke, and is used by the manga/anime to justify his extremely poor performance as seen with Shin Uchiha and in the Time Slip arc.
Jigen didn't kill off Naruto because it would take too much Chakra.
Jigen almost collapses, and the crystal on his torso cracks, due to expending too much Chakra against Naruto and Sasuke.
Koji believes that Naruto has no chance of defeating Jigen, and if Sasuke showed up their chance will only be minimal. He concluded that if Jigen expended too much Chakra then it would be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where he might be able to defeat Jigen.
Amado says that Jigen has almost zero Chakra left after fighting Naruto and Sasuke, and that it will take him two entire days to fully recover his Chakra. (Jigen is cybernetically enhanced, so the crystal was likely later fixed by Amado off-screen)
Amado informs Koji that Jigen is still recharging and hasn't even recovered 10% (either power or Chakra). Koji is wary of Boro and Code.
Jigen barrely started recovering from fighting Naruto and Sasuke according to Amado.
According to Amado, since Jigen was severely drained against Naruto and Sasuke, it is a perfect opportunity for Koji to defeat Jigen that will never be seen again; it is now or never.
While the relationship between Chakra and power is not 1:1, less Chakra leads to less power.
The amount of Chakra is also unrelated to whether Isshiki reincarnates or not. Mini-Isshiki was physically puppetering Jigen's body and have at one point implanted a Karma on him. If Mini-Isshiki dies, then he will revive via. Karma, but since Jigen's body is the only one that has a complete Karma he'll have to reincarnate through an incompatible vessel that will only last a few days.
Boro is stated to have comparable combat ability to Code, and Code is stated to be more powerful than Delta. But most would say that Boro is inferior physically but makes it up through hax (I guess the anime gave him invisible instant-death gas/virus, and enough range to poison entire farmlands). Koji had no choice but to fight Delta before Amado stepped in, and it is possible for him to defeat her through hax.
'Low Chakra' is how Boruto have notoriously severely nerfed Sasuke, and is used by the manga/anime to justify his extremely poor performance as seen with Shin Uchiha and in the Time Slip arc.
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isshiki become weaker every seconds that why they can touch him. not RE
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4 Pages already. This isn't going anywhere.
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It is though.
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I mean 3 staff have already agreed how many more do we need ?
I say we do this for now and people can argue for it in a different thread.
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hate to agree with u but yes u are right
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With all due respect, can yall speed this up?
There's 2 other Low 5-B threads for this verse. No reason to have 3 CRTs with the same end result
There's 2 other Low 5-B threads for this verse. No reason to have 3 CRTs with the same end result
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I mean it’s damn near accepted I debunked all the relevant issues at the beginning of page 3 the rest of this has just been people wanting Naruto and Sasuke to scale to ishiki
If you agree could be 4 staff in agreement
at that point we just gotta get somebody to apply the changes- Status
