So, Kiara is higher dimensional. One of the Koyanskayas compares her to a hyperdimensional cube. She's likened to a True Daemon, which are Higher Dimensional.
This is so odd but whatever, I guess it makes sense to use fgo Kiara for a totally different timeline of Kiara? Do you think fgo Kiara joined the burial agency? No.
They are not hyper-literally the same being so using her fgo version is weird.
She even goes by the name Kiara Kisshouin, Chaos who's a dead apostle in tsukihime isn't in the fate worlds.
I don't understand how you thought patiently and decided to just use fgo material on material that's clearly different even with how the events played out to fgo. I don't know if this is intentionally being disingenuous or not but whatever.
She flat out is called "almighty within ours"
"Take, for example, a certain nun who suddenly turned up among the Burial Agency.
Using the sabbath, she became a devil, and so obtained a sense for the higher dimensions, turning functionally almighty in ours.
Please read your translation, it says almighty in ours after mentioning higher dimensions, almighty in lower dimensions/ours not the universe.
She also says in this scene that she ascended to the demonic heavens.
Via her senses we know, you don't have to reiterate that. Yes she ascended yes she did duh? It appears just higher dimensional senses alone is enough to make one superior to lower dimensions even when they are physically not higher dimensional that's the point. She regards her higher dimensional senses as a form of ascendence you've denounced little to nothing. It's just doing your best to play with semantics and take the statements out of context.
So yes, she ascended to a higher dimension and then descended back down.
Nothing you said suffices such a conclusion, using sources that don't correlate to this context doesn't do a good job too.
I'm having some issues here understanding your point. She is miniscule in a higher dimensional world because the other beings around her are even higher than her.
Congrats, that's the point They are Higher than her because she just has higher dimensional senses.
There's also her statement of just
"As such, I remain here in this world.
Small though it may be,
I find far greater purpose within myself here than on the other side..."
Doesn't denounce anything, I already explained the context beforehand she disregarded her senses to return to her normal life.
Sooo?
Which wouldn't make sense if she has a sense for higher dimensions, she wouldn't really have the choice to just remain in the world. Because she actually ascended.
This doesn't even make sense to me, rephrase for me.
Regardless, my whole point is that while I agree with the High 1-B theoretical structure.
The definition of theoretical must've changed in these past few years.
No one scales to it and it does not apply to the universe
Yes, nobody does
I'll prove that by
sending context that doesn't relate to what's being proposed (we went from tsukihime which evidently contains way different progression of events to fgo, to talking about fgo)
then after doing that concluding that it doesn't apply.
Lmfaoo
Regardless, as I've posted above, an ascended Kiara has numerous statements about being higher dimensional. Not just her senses.
I'm so lost genuinely lmao, so how exactly how does posting statements of her using the term ascending suppose to support her being higher dimensional, using the fgo stuff is so disingenuous and is already dismissable.
She ascended via her senses, everything higher dimensional stuff she references senses, nothing and nowhere does it say she's physically higher dimensional.
You practically just ignore the actual statements to nitpick words like "Ascension" and went on to infer how it doesn't make sense for her to not be higher dimensional via more hypothesis rather than what's in the scan.
She's likened to a True Daemon, which are Higher Dimensional.
OH Ye forgot about this, yeah likened to them via her senses. We know like how she says senses over and over again and you ignore that.
The term universe is contextual based it could refer to the texture of humanity which was said to have only 3 vectors of space and 1 as a separate one hence 4D.
She obviously isn't beyond "the" the universe. The people who scale to it are Zeus and they started freaking out when Zeus was said to have the power to destroy so if wouldn't make sense for them to freak out when people like Kiara who are way below the scaling chain were to scale to that; I still question the validity of the Zeus claim tho.
This is pretty reasonable, but the hierarchy of higher dimensional beings can't apply to things outside of the universe, the outer universe was described as being beyond reasoning and how the laws of the universe are completely not applicable to it so presumably even the notion of higher dimensions.
This is why inhabitants of it like outer gods are also said to be above logic, can break logic and are said to be Incomprehensible even through Limitless wisdom
Also ignored how I say it doesn't make narrative sense for it to refer to the outside of the universe
Just because the Inverse chain scaling doesn't apply how you want it to, or doesn't work how you'd see fit for it to work doesn't falsify it.
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