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Her MS projects Amaterasu that's derived from Natural Energy instead of her own chakra! Brilliant! Truly a unique spin on a fan favouriteNO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP IT, WE ARE NOT PUTTING SARADA'S MS ABILITY BEING AMATERASU OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE. NO WAY. LET'S NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS. AHHHHHHHHHH
A visual of Sarada's MS' Amaterasu 2.0Her MS projects Amaterasu that's derived from Natural Energy instead of her own chakra! Brilliant! Truly a unique spin on a fan favourite
The answer is.Can anyone that does calcs answer this question?
That truly is an answerThe answer is.
She teleports people into the Amaterasu dimension, call that AmuiNO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP IT, WE ARE NOT PUTTING SARADA'S MS ABILITY BEING AMATERASU OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE. NO WAY. LET'S NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS. AHHHHHHHHHH
Or Kamaterasu, but that's too cool of a name.She teleports people into the Amaterasu dimension, call that Amui
Nevermind, apparently that name means "unmarried Chinese girl"She teleports people into the Amaterasu dimension, call that Amui
Nevermind, apparently that name means "unmarried Chinese girl"
He was wrong.What are ur thoughts on this implying Gaara isn't supersonic, particularly since Dosu is stated to be calculated and that he won't fight a battle that's unfavorable to him?
She teleports people into the Amaterasu dimension, call that Amui
Nevermind, apparently that name means "unmarried Chinese girl"
Jiraiya doesn’t have to match Gamabunta’s Ratio or Output for that Combination. It’s Toad Oil which is said to already be highly flammable.They do a combination jutsu which needs matching chakra levels as seen with MKCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke Inferno Rasenshurikens, and that was when Jiraiya was drugged.
Also even if you say that's only ninjutsu and not physicals, SM Naruto's physicals are definitely Bijuu level considering he withstood Shinra Tensei better than the Gamatrio, and he's still far below KCM Naruto and thus the Edo Jins
Gaara's sand manip isn't just from Shukaku, it's also from his mom, right?I think it’s BS if Naruto doesn’t retain his Healing Factor for the same reason Kishimoto stated Gaara kept his Sand Manipulation in DB3 Q&A Section.
Nope. His Mom is the Reason Sand Automatically protects him. His direct control over sand was because of Shukaku.Gaara's sand manip isn't just from Shukaku, it's also from his mom, right?
Doesn't the anime show him get hit by it?Btw… Do we think Shikamaru Tanked this or Evaded this?
Considering the way the databook describes the jutsu, I think you do.Jiraiya doesn’t have to match Gamabunta’s Ratio or Output for that Combination. It’s Toad Oil which is said to already be highly flammable.
He was literally wiling to bring Naruto as close to death as possible and was having trouble hurting him. Plus, he has great regenerative abilities as a jinchuriki, so there was no reason for Pain to worry about dealing mild-moderate injuries to Naruto. You need to really stretch it to argue Pain used less effort against SM Naruto the bigger threat than the Gamatrio.Also, I’ve said this before but ST is variable in strength. You’d have to prove the ST used in SM Naruto (Whom he was holding back against) was at the same level he used to Blast Away Gamatrio.
Remind me, does Gaara still control all sand, or just his gourd sand? And does he have to touch the ground with his body or his sand to use ground sand now?I think it’s BS if Naruto doesn’t retain his Healing Factor for the same reason Kishimoto stated Gaara kept his Sand Manipulation in DB3 Q&A Section.
That doesn't say they're even, that's a speed comparison.Considering the way the databook describes the jutsu, I think you do.
合図、即実行。両者には阿吽の呼吸が求められる。
Mental and physical harmony can be interpreted as them matching chakra levels since chakra is comprised of mental and physical energy. Although I'm glad you brought up speed, cause that's even messier when you argue Base Bijuu scaling to WA Bijuu (leads to scaling chains like Base Naruto<~KCM1 Naruto)That doesn't say they're even, that's a speed comparison.
You quite literally can’t use post-6tails & 8tails transformation Assault Pain’s statements when he has exhausted all other options to justify his actions pre-6tails assault & 8tails transformation.Considering the way the databook describes the jutsu, I think you do.
合図、即実行。両者には阿吽の呼吸が求められる。
Although either way, SM Naruto definitely scales above Gamabunta given that he's above SM Jiraiya who's at least Orochimaru level.
He was literally wiling to bring Naruto as close to death as possible and was having trouble hurting him. Plus, he has great regenerative abilities as a jinchuriki, so there was no reason for Pain to worry about dealing mild-moderate injuries to Naruto.
This is just faulty reasoning. Pain doesn’t have to hold back on Gamatrio, unlike Naruto. So you literally can't use that as justification.You need to really stretch it to argue Pain used less effort against SM Naruto the bigger threat than the Gamatrio.
Now that’s a stretch. It’s flowery language found throughout the DB.Mental and physical harmony can be interpreted as them matching chakra levels since chakra is comprised of mental and physical energy.
Quick Question… Does Shukaku scale to the TBB calcs in your Opinion or is he disqualified via not being Rinne/Shari enhanced?Although I'm glad you brought up speed, cause that's even messier when you argue Base Bijuu scaling to WA Bijuu (leads to scaling chains like Base Naruto<~KCM1 Naruto)
The point is just that he's willing to injure Naruto, and there's little risk involved in that considering he can heal fatal woundsYou quite literally can’t use post-6tails & 8tails transformation Assault Pain’s statements when he has exhausted all other options to justify his actions pre-6tails assault & 8tails transformation.
Um those clones got cooked by ST and Naruto himself barely remained standing despite being hit from a distance with clones as backup.Is Base Naruto > SM? Clearly the answer is no.
He doesn't have to hold back on Naruto to the point that it does no meaningful damage and he can get up immediately afterwards. And you didn't address Pain having trouble hurting Naruto.This is just faulty reasoning. Pain doesn’t have to hold back on Gamatrio, unlike Naruto. So you literally can't use that as justification.
Because?This alone when Pain is holding back isn’t enough justification to claim his Physicals > Gamatrio.
And Clearly his last ST > This one.
On its own maybe it's not concrete, but given that it's consistent with how combination ninjutsu is commonly portrayed it just lends credence to something already pretty likely. Also what about the Orochimaru point?Now that’s a stretch. It’s flowery language found throughout the DB.
No, though I think there are extenuating factors besides those like the jinchuriki amp and them being amped by ObitoQuick Question… Does Shukaku scale to the TBB calcs in your Opinion or is he disqualified via not being Rinne/Shari enhanced?
Can you link where it was accepted
Uhhh i mean he could but that's not in character whatsoever.
Um, it kind of is
He has other ninjutsu than just Raikiri
It's very blatant. 3T Sasuke>VOTE KM0 Naruto>LoW KM0 Naruto>Haku
He hasn't shown that level of feats but he should be able to considering his narrative relativity to Guy.
They do a combination jutsu which needs matching chakra levels as seen with MKCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke Inferno Rasenshurikens, and that was when Jiraiya was drugged.
Also even if you say that's only ninjutsu and not physicals, SM Naruto's physicals are definitely Bijuu level considering he withstood Shinra Tensei better than the Gamatrio, and he's still far below KCM Naruto and thus the Edo Jins
She saw her performance in the fight clearly
1. Bro has has hashirama cells so he still got some.Naruto w/o Kurama is a big hit tbh from an arsenal perspective:
- Likely no Healing Factor
- No TBB (Impacts his AoE Capabilities)
- No Chakra Cloaks or Arms (Impacts his enhancements & utility)
- Reduced Chakra Capacity
Yeah. I mean, “personally” I think Kurama is insignificant to Naruto’s AP/Physicals due to having Six Paths Chakra still (With him only taking a hit to the Arsenal reasons discussed). I know some people have reasons to disagree with that, but still. I just feel like, Kishimoto and ikemoto haven’t given any thought to the specifics of Naruto’s Powersets1. Bro has has hashirama cells so he still got some.
2. Technically he should still be able to use stuff like tailed beast rasenshuriken from other tailed beast but who knows if he still could at this point.
3. Yeah big loss
4. Also a loss but he'd be fine.
Added loss no kurama to help power sage mode. So his sage mode is not as powerful and he has to rely on clones to absorb which means he can't get too disoriented or the clones would dissipate
Doesn't Zeno have resistance to paralysis incentive? Goku had it, I'd expect Zeno to have it too, to be honest.You could argue beating Zeno via paralysis
I've always had the interpretation Naruto needs Chakra of each Tailed Beast to enter Six Paths Sage Mode.Yeah. I mean, “personally” I think Kurama is insignificant to Naruto’s AP/Physicals due to having Six Paths Chakra still (With him only taking a hit to the Arsenal reasons discussed). I know some people have reasons to disagree with that, but still. I just feel like, Kishimoto and ikemoto haven’t given any thought to the specifics of Naruto’s Powersets
The narrative is pushing the notion Naruto doesn’t have “superhuman strength” without Kurama which implies Naruto would be below his KCM forms, which is directly at odds with how it’s written Naruto up to that point. The only way I could see this being the case is if Naruto “Doesn’t” have Six Paths Chakra anymore, which makes no sense unless Kurama’s Chakra grew to become Superior to Hagoromo’s chakra, which is unlikely.
If a Ninja had as much chakra as Kurama, adding Kurama's Chakra to their own would still kinda be a multiplier?Meaning that for say, if a Ninja was equally as strong as Kurama, would Kurama’s Chakra be “additive” for that Ninja, instead of a “Multiplier”?