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Then why didn't he just one-shot the Bijū if his Gate Multipliers and Base Form are that insane?
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Then why didn't he just one-shot the Bijū if his Gate Multipliers and Base Form are that insane?
The Guy hater in me really hates to say this, but this might unironically give Guy pretty busted accelerated development.
He got stronger throughout the fightThen why didn't he just one-shot the Bijū if his Gate Multipliers and Base Form are that insane?
I think it's just a plot/powercliffing based boost tbh, similar to Kaguya fight SakuraThe Guy hater in me really hates to say this, but this might unironically give Guy pretty busted accelerated development.
It's definitely power cliffing but being able to grow dozens of times stronger mid fight is a pretty nasty AD.I think it's just a plot/powercliffing based boost tbh, similar to Kaguya fight Sakura
TrueIt's definitely power cliffing but being able to grow dozens of times stronger mid fight is a pretty nasty AD.
Lowkey consistent with Kakashi going from a kcm1 Nard rival to matching kcm2 Minatos attack speed.
Idrk that I agree with that but mehAlso Kaguya Fight Sakura is different since that's just like, an extreme case of resolve amps/PIS since she doesn't stay at that level and goes on to whine about being fodder to Sasuke literally seconds after punching Kaguyas horn off![]()
Aye man you can tell me some of the things that have happened in the past century irl with word of mouth and if it wasn't well documented, I wouldn't believe youwhich is really dumb given that less than a 100 years had pass since the warring states period and the fourth great ninja war
Oh one of them was certainly fatiguedFatigued KCM Minato but sure
This is what talking to Tanwin does to a manIdrk that I agree with that but meh
Oh one of them was certainly fatiguedbut it sure as hell wasn't the immortal infinitely regenerating zombie with a bijuu up his ass
This ain't Tanwin's influenceThis is what talking to Tanwin does to a man![]()
This is so crazy I won't evenIt sure as hell wasn't the one whose bum ass spent the whole Juubito fight sitting crisscrossed while the other had just given away all his KCM chakra and was just recovering it
That's what he wants you to thinkThis ain't Tanwin's influence![]()
It was a 4v1 and Naruto could release Bijuu mid-match, plus, I don't think they'd be able to use the Paths in Bijuu form.He still says using them would be wasteful regardless, purely because Kishimoto knows a Bloodlusted Obito is basically unbeatable.
This is so crazy I won't evenscratchthe reply, because Minatos bum ass failed to hit 1 rasengan and retired from the Juubito fight whiles Kakashi has been fighting for like a day straight at that point and couldn't even see properly due to his sharingan going blind![]()
I haven't even talked to him about Sakura in like yearsThat's what he wants you to think![]()
She was sleepyAlso Kaguya Fight Sakura is different since that's just like, an extreme case of resolve amps/PIS since she doesn't stay at that level and goes on to whine about being fodder to Sasuke literally seconds after punching Kaguyas horn off![]()
Brother this same Kurama went on to cover Narutos ass in KCM2 cloak for the entirety of the juubidara, Kaguya, and Sasuke fights where he spammed thousands of clones, rasen shurikens, and other large scale attacks. You're NOT going to pretend like Minato somehow gave Naruto all of his kyubi chakra to form a single avatar
Lies, deception, falsehoods!I haven't even talked to him about Sakura in like years![]()
The chakra's just added to Naruto's overall pool, what do you think the snip and Minato returning to base is?Brother this same Kurama went on to cover Narutos ass in KCM2 cloak for the entirety of the juubidara, Kaguya, and Sasuke fights where he spammed thousands of clones, rasen shurikens, and other large scale attacks. You're NOT going to pretend like Minato somehow gave Naruto all of his kyubi chakra to form a single avatar. Bro was straight up covered in a kcm2 cloak when it happened be so fr
Ok zoomerLies, deception, falsehoods!
Sub rel base might guy?
Light Speed lowkeySub rel base might guy?
Always has beenguy is cracked
I feel like Pre-WA Guy is a bit overrated ngl, Base Guy being relative to Kakashi is pretty big highballAlways has been
Yeah not on this wiki. I'm just thinking does guy have speed feats with hirudura on anyone? Would be good for his 8th gateLight Speed lowkey
Sure, but Base Guy~KCM Naruto wouldn't be accepted on the wiki eitherYeah not on this wiki.
Tagged Edo MadaraI'm just thinking does guy have speed feats with hirudura on anyone? Would be good for his 8th gate
Bro has the feats tbh. Don't see nothing wrong with him being relative although on the low end. Plus I think Naruto shunshin is still faster.Sure, but Base Guy~KCM Naruto wouldn't be accepted on the wiki either
Tagged Edo Madara
I do think it makes since for them base to base to be relative pre war at least.I feel like Pre-WA Guy is a bit overrated ngl, Base Guy being relative to Kakashi is pretty big highball
I mentioned it before and it was just considered an outlierBro has the feats tbh. Don't see nothing wrong with him being relative although on the low end. Plus I think Naruto shunshin is still faster.
Regardless of its width, it still moved forward faster than Madara's Susanoo could tag NarutoIdk about that one really. Hirudura is a wide range attack, he doesn't need to be on par in speed to catch him. Or did they throw hands a bit before then?
If they were, Guy should mog Kakashi with the Gates, but Kakashi's consistently stated to be Konoha's strongest ninja and Guy's implied to not surpass him until he opens the 8th Gate.I do think it makes since for them base to base to be relative pre war at least.
Let's mention it again but add ADI mentioned it before and it was just considered an outlier
Could chidori kakashi just be that fast enough to match guy?If they were, Guy should mog Kakashi with the Gates, but Kakashi's consistently stated to be Konoha's strongest ninja and Guy's implied to not surpass him until he opens the 8th Gate.
This is actually my favorite Might Guy moment ever. I like the strategic use of his weapons even more than 8th Gate or the classic acorn scene.
I think the sharingan and raikiri merchant that kakashi is let's him keep up with gates. Also they are just stated to be rivals numerous times implying relativity.If they were, Guy should mog Kakashi with the Gates, but Kakashi's consistently stated to be Konoha's strongest ninja and Guy's implied to not surpass him until he opens the 8th Gate.
AD?Let's mention it again but add AD
If you can prove 8th Gate Guy is dozens of times above 7th Gate sureNice. Might come in handy for 8th gate guy
You could argue that but it's not like Kakashi can use Raikiri as much as Guy can fight with the Gates openCould chidori kakashi just be that fast enough to match guy?
I don't think Base Kakashi is relative to 7th Gate Guy or anything sure, but him being Base Guy level seems a bit too low. PA Kakashi's keeping up with Pain while Base WA Guy can't even damage Bee amped Kisame or overwhelm Haku.I think the sharingan and raikiri merchant that kakashi is let's him keep up with gates.
I agree that overall Kakashi and Guy with access to the Gates are relativeAlso they are just stated to be rivals numerous times implying relativity.
1. Accelerated developmentAD?
If you can prove 8th Gate Guy is dozens of times above 7th Gate sure
You could argue that but it's not like Kakashi can use Raikiri as much as Guy can fight with the Gates open
I don't think Base Kakashi is relative to 7th Gate Guy or anything sure, but him being Base Guy level seems a bit too low. PA Kakashi's keeping up with Pain while Base WA Guy can't even damage Bee amped Kisame or overwhelm Haku.
I agree that overall Kakashi and Guy with access to the Gates are relative
He really couldn't afford toHe would have if not for the plot- I mean for the fact that they all know how to counter Rinnegan abilities now.He says they take up too much Chakra but you're telling me he couldn't at least try to use them in small openings where he could take them out with Chakra absorption or something?
Mk1. Accelerated development
I thought that's for Base to 8th Gate?2. It's already accepted
Can still use them for more than a handful of strikes. 6th Gate Guy literally launches hundreds of attacks with Asakujaku3. Guy can't spam the gates either though
Pain~Jiraiya~/>Orochimaru>CM2 Hebi Sasuke>>3T Hebi Sasuke>3T Taka Sasuke<~Base Bee<~Base Kisame4. I don't really think there is much difference between kisame and pain physicals.
Ok but Kisame is not taking an attack from FKS Kakashi with literally no reaction. Bee's chakra or not. Pre-War Bee and FKS Kakashi are around the same levelAnd líke you said kisame was amped by bee chakra.
Bruh. Haku is legitimately a 3T Kid Sasuke victim (and it's a pretty big difference too), he's not touching Sannin level whatsoever.Also kakashi is Not overwhelming haku either. Well pre wa kakashi.
I could see his Raikiri piercing through it and it would definitely damage Madara's body5. I don't think kakashi is relative to 7th gate strength at all. He is not bulldozing madara susanoo and putting him out of commission for a while
If anything wouldn't injecting them with chakra help to control them better? It's not like he's freely giving them his chakra for their own personal use, he's manipulating them with that chakrawhich is part reason why I don't think obito amped their stats at all. Best i see him doing is to enhance how well they utilize their chakra. Plus having a sharingan amp your perception and reactions is enough to give you an edge in combat
I think Shukaku was weakened on the Konoha Crush due to Gaara popping back out, and was still superior to Gamabunta, who I say is superior to Base JiraiyaI'm really curious for the people that have the normal and War Arc Bijuu at the same level what they think of War Arc Bijuu~KCM Naruto>>PA SM Naruto>SM Jiraiya>>Base Jiraiya~/>Gamabunta<~Shukaku