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Is Bee being scaled above Mifune via distance things like I saw being thrown around or just relative? Cause I'm pretty sure it's KM0 Mifune's Beam of Light that's rated light speed.
 
"At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Able to fight against Sasuke), possibly Speed of Light attack speed with Issen (The Naruto databook states that Mifune's usage of this technique has a 'light-speed sword' but the only case of him using it is when he was enhanced by Kurama's chakra)"

Also the databook entry just refers to the instance it was used in the manga when he did have a Kurama cloak
 
"At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Able to fight against Sasuke), possibly Speed of Light attack speed with Issen (The Naruto databook states that Mifune's usage of this technique has a 'light-speed sword' but the only case of him using it is when he was enhanced by Kurama's chakra)"

Also the databook entry just refers to the instance it was used in the manga when he did have a Kurama cloak

It wont matter much since we scaled gyuki above kurama amped mifune anyway





also since naruto sasuke and obito profiles are locked I'll wait until they get opened by a content mod
till then I'll get to work regarding the broader scaling chains
 
Oh that's interesting i disagree with the conclusion that it's due to the kurama amp but it is what it is.


IG what that means is for now we change everyone to possibly. Gyuki would still be possibly FTL. Not much changes


EDIT: Nevermind, Ghost is right, Gyuki would still scale above Kurama amped Mifune so he doesn't need possibly
 
Oh that's interesting i disagree with the conclusion that it's due to the kurama amp but it is what it is.


IG what that means is for now we change everyone to possibly. Gyuki would still be possibly FTL. Not much changes
wait why?
mifune's base is rated possibly SOL
his kurama amped version with the issen is considered actual light speed by the wiki
 
"At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Able to fight against Sasuke), possibly Speed of Light attack speed with Issen (The Naruto databook states that Mifune's usage of this technique has a 'light-speed sword' but the only case of him using it is when he was enhanced by Kurama's chakra)"

Also the databook entry just refers to the instance it was used in the manga when he did have a Kurama cloak
I mean that’s the only time he’s shown to use it, they have no other instance to show
 
I’m confused why we’re keeping a “possibly” rating when we agree with a very straight forward translation
I might make another CRT for Mifune, bc I completely disagree with him having Possibly lol. The translation is very straight forward and I'm not sure how anybody even got to the conclusion that it may be due to Kurama's cloak, when the very translation mentions it's due to the sword and Mifune's swordsmanship, period lol. I'll have to reread the CRT that got it accepted on his profile again to see the arguments.

It shouldn't affect this and the next CRT since everyone'll be scaling from Gyuki who should be straightforwardly FTL with Bijuudamas due to keeping up with Mifune despite being behind him.
 
I mean it's referring to his slash itself being light speed and it's just becoming a projectile, so it'd basically affect the entire verse's speed as Mifune gets reacted to by 3T FKS Sasuke.
 
I mean it's referring to his slash itself being light speed and it's just becoming a projectile, so it'd basically affect the entire verse's speed as Mifune gets reacted to by 3T FKS Sasuke.
iirc some translators clarified only the projectile was SOL
(you can check the crt linked in op where it got accepted)
 
I mean it's referring to his slash itself being light speed and it's just becoming a projectile, so it'd basically affect the entire verse's speed as Mifune gets reacted to by 3T FKS Sasuke.
What chapter was this
 
I might make another CRT for Mifune, bc I completely disagree with him having Possibly lol. The translation is very straight forward and I'm not sure how anybody even got to the conclusion that it may be due to Kurama's cloak, when the very translation mentions it's due to the sword and Mifune's swordsmanship, period lol. I'll have to reread the CRT that got it accepted on his profile again to see the arguments.

It shouldn't affect this and the next CRT since everyone'll be scaling from Gyuki who should be straightforwardly FTL with Bijuudamas due to keeping up with Mifune despite being behind him.
👍 glad we agree on this lol. I’ve had an issue with it for the longest but it’s just been a while since I’ve had the time/energy/motivation to do anything about it
 
iirc some translators clarified only the projectile was SOL
(you can check the crt linked in op where it got accepted)
The most was one person saying it seems like it to them, but their actual translation just says the light speed sword becomes a soaring slash (meaning it was light speed before it flew), and every other translation I've seen of the statement from people or machines say about the same thing.
What chapter was this
465
 
So uh naruto's profile was done, Could you help me link the scans and profiles of obito and mifune in his speed justifications?
It had the same code layout as bee's that you did so I'm struggling with that

List of profiles changed (will be edited with each completion)

Ten Tails
Kurama
Killer Bee
Obito
naruto (p2-BOTTJ)
sasuke (p2-4GNW)
aside naruto all else seem to be done, if you believe it's done properly you may close this thread
 
The most was one person saying it seems like it to them, but their actual translation just says the light speed sword becomes a soaring slash (meaning it was light speed before it flew), and every other translation I've seen of the statement from people or machines say about the same thing.
perhaps but it is best to be safe and assume the projectile, maybe we can discuss the scaling chain if it is hand movement in discord if you're down

Were Temari and the Hyuga clan faster than Mifune?
Temari and her fellow wind scythe users were faster or at least equal to the issens
it's hard to confirm for hyugas
 
The most was one person saying it seems like it to them, but their actual translation just says the light speed sword becomes a soaring slash (meaning it was light speed before it flew), and every other translation I've seen of the statement from people or machines say about the same thing.
TBH I agree with this interpretation, but I think for now it's safe to assume just the projectile. BC if it's also the sword, it would scale to Sasuke, Raikage etc etc (which is based), but idk how consistent that is... let alone if that'll even get accepted lol. I might add that to my crt; adding a note to his profile for it to scale to the projectile itself rather than his sword strikes
 
perhaps but it is best to be safe and assume the projectile, maybe we can discuss the scaling chain if it is hand movement in discord if you're down
I mean idt it scales to Base Mifune but we could 🤷‍♂️
Temari and her fellow wind scythe users were faster or at least equal to the issens
it's hard to confirm for hyugas
Mmmmk, maybe shouldn't say the Hyugas are faster in that situation

Also shouldn't Naruto's Bijuudamas be noted as faster than Gyuki's, not comparable? KCM2 Naruto is faster than Gyuki after all.
TBH I agree with this interpretation, but I think for now it's safe to assume just the projectile. BC if it's also the sword, it would scale to Sasuke, Raikage etc etc (which is based), but idk how consistent that is... let alone if that'll even get accepted lol. I might add that to my crt; adding a note to his profile for it to scale to the projectile itself rather than his sword strikes
Or it is talking about KM0 Mifune
 
I mean idt it scales to Base Mifune but we could 🤷‍♂️

Mmmmk, maybe shouldn't say the Hyugas are faster in that situation

Also shouldn't Naruto's Bijuudamas be noted as faster than Gyuki's, not comparable? KCM2 Naruto is faster than Gyuki after all.

Or it is talking about KM0 Mifune
I think comparable is a safer term
The translation doesn't denote or even imply that the light speed sword is due to him being amped tho
a funny thing is, it's not just mifune who's issen is light speed, all the fodder samurai beside him have the same speeds if we use the anime for reference, kishi likely intended for them all to be ftl in combat instead of cherrypicking one specific guy with a kurama cloak
 
a funny thing is, it's not just mifune who's issen is light speed, all the fodder samurai beside him have the same speeds if we use the anime for reference, kishi likely intended for them all to be ftl in combat instead of cherrypicking one specific guy with a kurama cloak
Regardless of what our interpretations of the feats brings about for the profiles, one thing I'm confident about is that Kishimoto never intended all of the samurai to be FTL in combat.

We're sourcing all this from the databook, but let's remember that the databook hyped up Madara's laser attack as being undodgeable because it was swung at lightspeed.
 
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