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Let's mention it again but add AD
Nice. Might come in handy for 8th gate guy
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
Nice. Might come in handy for 8th gate guy
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Could chidori kakashi just be that fast enough to match guy?
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This is actually my favorite Might Guy moment ever. I like the strategic use of his weapons even more than 8th Gate or the classic acorn scene.
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I think the sharingan and raikiri merchant that kakashi is let's him keep up with gates. Also they are just stated to be rivals numerous times implying relativity.
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AD?
If you can prove 8th Gate Guy is dozens of times above 7th Gate sure
You could argue that but it's not like Kakashi can use Raikiri as much as Guy can fight with the Gates open
I don't think Base Kakashi is relative to 7th Gate Guy or anything sure, but him being Base Guy level seems a bit too low. PA Kakashi's keeping up with Pain while Base WA Guy can't even damage Bee amped Kisame or overwhelm Haku.
I agree that overall Kakashi and Guy with access to the Gates are relative
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1. Accelerated development
2. It's already accepted
3. Guy can't spam the gates either though
4. I don't really think there is much difference between kisame and pain physicals. And líke you said kisame was amped by bee chakra. Also kakashi is Not overwhelming haku either. Well pre wa kakashi.
5. I don't think kakashi is relative to 7th gate strength at all. He is not bulldozing madara susanoo and putting him out of commission for a while
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He really couldn't afford to
Unlike pain's corpses, the bijuu have massive personalities and A LOT of chakra
Kokuo broke out of his control even without him giving them complex abilities
MinatoSparkle
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Mk
I thought that's for Base to 8th Gate?
Can still use them for more than a handful of strikes. 6th Gate Guy literally launches hundreds of attacks with Asakujaku
Pain~Jiraiya~/>Orochimaru>CM2 Hebi Sasuke>>3T Hebi Sasuke>3T Taka Sasuke<~Base Bee<~Base Kisame
Ok but Kisame is not taking an attack from FKS Kakashi with literally no reaction. Bee's chakra or not. Pre-War Bee and FKS Kakashi are around the same level
Bruh. Haku is legitimately a 3T Kid Sasuke victim (and it's a pretty big difference too), he's not touching Sannin level whatsoever.
I could see his Raikiri piercing through it and it would definitely damage Madara's body
If anything wouldn't injecting them with chakra help to control them better? It's not like he's freely giving them his chakra for their own personal use, he's manipulating them with that chakra
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I'm really curious for the people that have the normal and War Arc Bijuu at the same level what they think of War Arc Bijuu~KCM Naruto>>PA SM Naruto>SM Jiraiya>>Base Jiraiya~/>Gamabunta<~Shukaku
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Why is there no Fire Clone Jutsu? A clone that explodes or incinerates on contact.
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I think Shukaku was weakened on the Konoha Crush due to Gaara popping back out, and was still superior to Gamabunta, who I say is superior to Base Jiraiya
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2. Na 7th to 8th has an accepted 24x multiplier.
3. Worst come to worst kakashi also uses first gate
4. Like I said not much difference.
5. Attacks like raikiri? Sure? A punch? He definitely is
6. This take is so horrendous i don't even know where to begin from.
7. I disagree. Cracking a big if. Piercing and destroying and then still incapacitating is nowhere near what kakashi can achieve
8.
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Same reason no one cloaks their selves with fire as with lightning or wind or the other chakra natures
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So has anyone ever calculated sasuke speed for flying to the ground before IT light can even be visible on earth? Gotta be a good supporting feat
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It’s a little bit of mental gymnastics, I doubt the staff would agree
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I made the calc and sent it to be checked and got no response. I got smth around 20c though
HelloThere1089
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Can't you get at least a 2x multiplier with that method? Iirc we see Momoshiki eat at least one chakra fruit from the Shinju on screen after Kaguya died.
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Momo being 2x greater than Kaguya doesn’t change his rating at all. I’ll probably use it in another thread.
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I don’t think War Arc Biju are that much stronger tbh. As a Biju, Shukaku should still be in the same Ball Park and level via his TBB which, like Gyuuki, they (1-8) should all be able to tank albeit it’s “Incapacitating” for them as Gyuuki was COOKED after it.
Also, why do you have Base Jiraiya ~> Gamabunta? Only Orochimaru is implied to control Manda via the threat of his Jutsu.
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Apollonir.Scale
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When he says surpass Tsunade, he might not just mean power. For example, Tenten wanted to be a good shinobi as Tsunade. Tsunade is not as strong as him. Similarly, Chiyo might mean being a good kunoichi. Even if he were to talk about power, Sasori fight Sakura, a summon like Katsuya, and she doesn't have as much experience as Tsunade.
Also, can Chiyo-baa read power levels?
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Itachi literally uses an exploding clone in Part 1.
Apollonir.Scale
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I'm talking according to my own scaling, I think Gai and Kakashi can solo the bijuu even if they are not early war arcs, but in mid and late war arcs. At worst, they will lose to Kurama 100%.
Even in the early War Arc Kakashi threw a speed blitz at the edo Jinchuuriki who were pushing KCM1 Naruto. In this wiki, Kakashi won in Wa Kakashi vs KCM1 Naruto.
Apollonir.Scale
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My friend Halkum had a crt about this but it was not accepted.
Springtime of Youth P2
Yes, here we will touch upon the previously decided gate 8 issue again. Short version for lazy people: Basically, I am opening this topic to resolve the error in translation and the form in which gate 8 will be implemented.At the end of the topic, I will have 3 suggestions. Long version: We...
If you ask me, Base Gai should scale to Naruto in terms of speed since he was able to help Naruto in a fight against him. After all, you can't help someone who is faster than you in a fight.
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HelloThere1089
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Doesn’t Itachi use Exploding Clones?
Koji gonna use it, watch.
Not fire style
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I can say that Zeno's erasing hax from existence is 5-D. It seems like Kaguya's resistance won't save her.
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Amaterasu Fire Clone would go hard, ngl.
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That's what I'm saying. Or a fire cloak.
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How cool would it be if Sarada had a Cloak of Amaterasu around her that Auto Reacted with Enton barriers or spikes, ala Gaara’s Sand?
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Best I can do is an Amaterasu Sword that can launch Amaterasu spikes. Take it or leave it.
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I really find it Funny that Sasuke’s Enton actually has Piercing AP, even though it’s just fire.
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Amaterasu has Plot
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Because the point was that Naruto was trying to reach out to Sora and rejecting Kurama's power showed him he could do it too?
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NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP IT, WE ARE NOT PUTTING SARADA'S MS ABILITY BEING AMATERASU OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE. NO WAY. LET'S NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS. AHHHHHHHHHH
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Yeah, he should have rejected the power after the beatdown, so it's like "see? He can reject even MORE power."
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Can you link where it was accepted
Uhhh i mean he could but that's not in character whatsoever.
Um, it kind of is
He has other ninjutsu than just Raikiri
It's very blatant. 3T Sasuke>VOTE KM0 Naruto>LoW KM0 Naruto>Haku
He hasn't shown that level of feats but he should be able to considering his narrative relativity to Guy.
They do a combination jutsu which needs matching chakra levels as seen with MKCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke Inferno Rasenshurikens, and that was when Jiraiya was drugged.
Also even if you say that's only ninjutsu and not physicals, SM Naruto's physicals are definitely Bijuu level considering he withstood Shinra Tensei better than the Gamatrio, and he's still far below KCM Naruto and thus the Edo Jins
She saw her performance in the fight clearly
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You could argue beating Zeno via paralysis
