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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Testarossa002 said:
Kaguya smashes him
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Shadowbokunohero said:
stops at Kaguya for sure and maybe ten tails madara he may possibly superior stat wise, though i dont really have the speed gap all that wide , but he has no answer to thought based massive AOE BFR or IT. also he needs to be actively in sage mode to even harm any of the ten tail jins, which means his on a timer before he accidentally gets wacked by a TSB, he could just get off guarded by a limbo clone, Toneri can just straight up cripple him by absorbing his chakra from a distance. prep time helps put some clones on standby but without kurama's chakra i have no idea how many clones he could stockpile for the gauntlet.

Momoshiki is already relative to a stronger base naruto and can just demolish him with jutsu spam.
he also may unironically still lose to itachi in the forest lol
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If we go by madara words then naruto can just hijack six path chakra from the 10tails jin and boom he got six path mode back. Should not be too hard to do since he's much faster. I still think naruto got his sensing stuff regardless after the nerf sohe would sense limbo
 
So momo got hold of boruto rasengan and went odama straight and then rasendan. What is bro gonna do with uzuhiko, absorb rotational energy of stars? I think the shinju are gonna have a second evolutionary state or at least the once not killed.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
after seeing the latest Daima episode, I'm so glad Kishimoto and Ikemoto didn't turn Sasuke into some emasculated beta **** like vegeta
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Yeah they just turned Sasuke into a bum, and Naruto into a shadow of his former self. Good thing none of them like taking baths and spending time with their family like that emasculated beta Vegeta.
 
karo_senpaii said:
So momo got hold of boruto rasengan and went odama straight and then rasendan. What is bro gonna do with uzuhiko, absorb rotational energy of stars? I think the shinju are gonna have a second evolutionary state or at least the once not killed.
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I’m full on expecting Momo to be an unrestrained Menace.
 
KingogKings777 said:
Yeah they just turned Sasuke into a bum, and Naruto into a shadow of his former self.
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Mid Rage Bait lmao, Sasuke in Boruto is the polished/ pay-off version of everything done in shippuden
KingogKings777 said:
Good thing none of them like taking baths and spending time with their family like that emasculated beta Vegeta.
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a character submitting to his wife and letting her just weaponise intimacy like it's absence is some punishment is just embarassing for the character

nor is bathing with your spouse = "spending time with your family"
Naruto and Sasuke do spend actual quality time with their children and bond with them instead of training and this happens without letting their wives disrespect em like that
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Mid Rage Bait lmao, Sasuke in Boruto is the polished/ pay-off version of everything done in shippuden
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Its a pay off and polished if you wanted a bum as a character.
Ghostimuscrime said:
a character submitting to his wife and letting her just weaponise intimacy like it's absence is some punishment is just embarassing for the character
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More stakes than anything that Boruto has to offer, tbh. This is while ignoring the better story telling and characterization in Daima that this shit pacing manga has.
Ghostimuscrime said:
nor is bathing with your spouse = "spending time with your family"
Naruto and Sasuke do spend actual quality time with their children and bond with them instead of training and this happens without letting their wives disrespect em like that
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Spend so much time quality that Naruto have a shadow clone go to his sons birthday and Sasuke tried killing his daughter, after ditching said daughter and wife. Peak parenting truly.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Sasuke is like aight in Boruto let’s chill on both ends of the extreme 😭 play off polish and bum are too funny
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it is true tho, the Boruto era Sasuke is the most developed and mature version that Sasuke ever was
KingogKings777 said:
Its a pay off and polished if you wanted a bum as a character.
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how is he a "bum"

last time I checked he wasnt licking isshikis boots, you know who bowed down for beerus?
KingogKings777 said:
More stakes than anything that Boruto has to offer, tbh. This is while ignoring the better story telling and characterization in Daima that this shit pacing manga has.
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this is just embarassing response lmfao 😭


the "better storytelling" in daima in question is just substance-less fanservice that destroys prior DBS narratives
KingogKings777 said:
Spend so much time quality that Naruto have a shadow clone go to his sons birthday and Sasuke tried killing his daughter, after ditching said daughter and wife. Peak parenting truly.
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people always cling onto one scene that prevents naruto from falling into gary stu characterization and its funny, it doesnt make him a bad father, he learns from his mistakes and as a result the bond with children grow stronger, it doesn't even invalidate the entire manga having naruto be an incredible dad, twitter and reddit arguments aint it 😭
 
what bulma did was fine

1. Its absolutely consistent with her characterization

2. she didnt do it with Malicious intent intent as the context was to avoid having vegeta get himself killed.


3. Its consistent with Vegeta's post Z characterization

4. its an obvious comedic moment


I dont see how its somehow worse than seeing the reincarnation of Indra get his shit rocked by carl from jurassic park.
 
I get that dragon ball holds a good place in your heart but it shouldn't blind you to the point of making excuses to convince yourself it isn't unfiltered ass lol, it being consistent doesn't free it from the problems, nor does being comedic do that, especially when Japanese media use very gross things as "comedy"

you know the difference between us? I'm not gonna blindly meatride and refuse to accept when something just sucks
the sasuke retsuden stuff you just brought up, I'll gladly admit it was an shitty attempt at a romance novel and an overall side story, it's ass and so is Daima
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
it is true tho, the Boruto era Sasuke is the most developed and mature version that Sasuke ever was
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Truly mature that it was gonna kill my daughter on site type mature.
Ghostimuscrime said:
how is he a "bum"
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Idk, lets go look at his first appearance of him in being found by Sarada and the other chick.
Ghostimuscrime said:
last time I checked he wasnt licking isshikis boots, you know who bowed down for beerus?
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Damn imagine a Boruto fan leaving context of everything but hey thats what happens when you get mid once a month minus the once a year good chapter that is carried by Naruto, Sasuke or Kurama which is why the views go up on it. Also lets ignore that Sasuke and Naruto would also be in the same position he was maybe even worse with how much weaker they are compared to him.
Ghostimuscrime said:
this is just embarassing response lmfao 😭

the "better storytelling" in daima in question is just substance-less fanservice that destroys prior DBS narratives
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How? DB has better story telling, characters, and stakes than everything in Boruto and the pacing is complete shit.
Ghostimuscrime said:
people always cling onto one scene that prevents naruto from falling into gary stu characterization and its funny, it doesnt make him a bad father, he learns from his mistakes and as a result the bond with children grow stronger, it doesn't even invalidate the entire manga having naruto be an incredible dad, twitter and reddit arguments aint it 😭
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Being a good father = Gary stu? Jesus Christ, I guess all good fathers in fiction are gary stu from this shit take of yours. Like imagine being there for your kid instead of sending a shadow clone.
Shadowbokunohero said:
what bulma did was fine

1. Its absolutely consistent with her characterization

2. she didnt do it with Malicious intent intent as the context was to avoid having vegeta get himself killed.


3. Its consistent with Vegeta's post Z characterization

4. its an obvious comedic moment


I dont see how its somehow worse than seeing the reincarnation of Indra get his shit rocked by carl from jurassic park.
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1. Comedic relief is never allowed, and 2. Forgot about the goat Momo who solos all of part 1 and part 2.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I get that dragon ball holds a good place in your heart but it shouldn't blind you to the point of making excuses to convince yourself it isn't unfiltered ass lol, it being consistent doesn't free it from the problems, nor does being comedic do that, especially when Japanese media use very gross things as "comedy"
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Wait when did I say I was a Boruto fan? Cause everything you just said applies to Boruto here.
 
KingogKings777 said:
Truly mature that it was gonna kill my daughter on site type mature.

Idk, lets go look at his first appearance of him in being found by Sarada and the other chick.
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this is just you repeating the same thing while knowing the real reason and trying to use it as a gotcha

KingogKings777 said:
Damn imagine a Boruto fan leaving context of everything but hey thats what happens when you get mid once a month minus the once a year good chapter that is carried by Naruto, Sasuke or Kurama which is why the views go up on it. Also lets ignore that Sasuke and Naruto would also be in the same position he was maybe even worse with how much weaker they are compared to him.
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LMFAO, brother got so mad he quit defending DB and hit me with the "but your manga sucks!" 😂
KingogKings777 said:
How? DB has better story telling, characters, and stakes than everything in Boruto and the pacing is complete shit.
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depends on which DB you're talking about, Z? perhaps, boruto ***** on daima+super+pre-z, the latter three are actual jokes

stakes definitely isnt better when shenron is the resident convenience man brought whenever the plot needs an easy way out

KingogKings777 said:
Being a good father = Gary stu? Jesus Christ
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strawmaning does not work on me I fear

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HelloThere1089 said:
True. Now continue the Vegeta vs Sasuke argument.
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aye aye
 
@Ghostimuscrime
I'm not even positive on Daima so i suggest to stop projecting "dragonball holds a good place in your heart" strawman, if the writing is internally consistent with the characters and the setting then its by definition airtight in its writing, whether or not you agree with what the characters are doing is a separate issue from whether or not its good or bad.

also idk if your some kind of closet amish or something lol that your gonna equate a husband and wife bathing together as a gross thing, especially since your stanning a series that treats sending out 10 to 12 year old children as soldiers as something to be patriotic and proud of, especially in a setting thats largely peaceful.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
@Ghostimuscrime
I'm not even positive on Daima so i suggest to stop projecting "dragonball holds a good place in your heart" strawman,
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sometimes, it's easy to just spot people unwilling to admit when sth is ass, they can surely believe it's not the case but actions demonstrate otherwise
Shadowbokunohero said:
if the writing is internally consistent with the characters and the setting then its by definition airtight in its writing
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i dont really care about it being consistent? it can be consistent and horrible or inconsistent that allows for an improved experience
not sure why you snuck in this sub topic but i aint dealing with it, take it home

Shadowbokunohero said:
also idk if your some kind of closet amish or something lol that your gonna equate a husband and wife bathing together as a gross thing
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never said nor remotely implied this btw^^
Shadowbokunohero said:
especially since your stanning a series that treats sending out 10 to 12 year old children as soldiers as something to be patriotic and proud of, especially in a setting thats largely peaceful.
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Ghostimuscrime said:
sometimes, it's easy to just spot people unwilling to admit when sth is ass, they can surely believe it's not the case but actions demonstrate otherwise
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IDK i think its more engaging to be able to express why you feel the way about something versus having the emotional maturity of a potato to instinctively assume everyone should agree with me and are just being unwilling cooperative
Ghostimuscrime said:
i dont really care about it being consistent? it can be consistent and horrible or inconsistent that allows for an improved experience
not sure why you snuck in this sub topic but i aint dealing with it, take it home
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you can feel whatever you want makes a good or bad "Experience" thats subjective. but if you want to grandstand the quality of something as being true and everyone else being unwilling to realize it, then you need to present why its bad outside "muh feelings"

especially since your original post doesnt even come off as criticism of the story and more like your just mad vegeta listened to his wife.

Ghostimuscrime said:
never said nor remotely implied this btw^^
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seems like it to me, or else why even bring it up in the first place.
 
daima looks cringe as **** tbh, it looks like a glorified GT x Heroes fusion. I cannot take anything I see from that show seriously. imma watch it soon tho
 
we can't go one day without some ass takes in here huh

Vegeta's entire character arc in Z was about developing things more important to him than his ego and moving past his innate desire to be a ruthless Saiyan, and subjugate others the way he was subjugated by Frieze, Bulma contributed a lot to that development.

Him dropping a fight he didn't need to be in for someone he cares about more than his pride and letting Goku, who is much more equipped to deal with this situation is fine, if they were really in danger with no other option we know from other examples that he would override Bulma and that Bulma wouldn't interfere.

It was also just a comedy scene, there's nothing emasculating about dropping your ego for a spouse, that's just maturity.

Let's not act like Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't sleep on the couch like good little boys if Hinata and Sakura were mad at them.

And while Adult Sasuke isn't his writing peak at all IMO, he's still a good character and mostly utilized well.
 
Godernet said:
we can't go one day without some ass takes in here huh

Vegeta's entire character arc in Z was about developing things more important to him than his ego and moving past his innate desire to be a ruthless Saiyan, and subjugate others the way he was subjugated by Frieze, Bulma contributed a lot to that development.

Him dropping a fight he didn't need to be in for someone he cares about more than his pride and letting Goku, who is much more equipped to deal with this situation is fine, if they were really in danger with no other option we know from other examples that he would override Bulma and that Bulma wouldn't interfere.

It was also just a comedy scene, there's nothing emasculating about dropping your ego for a spouse, that's just maturity.

Let's not act like Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't sleep on the couch like good little boys if Hinata and Sakura were mad at them.

And while Adult Sasuke isn't his writing peak at all IMO, he's still a good character and mostly utilized well.
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We also have that anime scene where Himawari gets sick and Hinata kicks Naruto and Boruto out of the house.
 
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