Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Samlex1234]

Can Naruto (Post-Nerf) defeat every major Villain he’s fought up to “The Last”, at the same time?

• Every Villain/Antagonist is in their strongest iteration (No Edo’s).
• 24hrs prep

One on one he clears (Kaguya would be tricky though because of her hax abilities), all of them working together he gets stomped.

Can Rinnegan Sasuke solo IT Kaguya, Tenseigan Toneri, RinneSharingan Madara & Juubito at the same time?

Or is it too much? No nerfs. No PIS or CIS.

He slams and I promise it is not even close. Susanoo sasuke> EMS Rinnesharingan sasuke ~ Fused Momo > Base Momo > Kaguya. Toneri was destroyed by a BSM Naruto that was not even going at full power, Sasuke breathe on him and he dies. Madara adds no value whatsoever, people don't understand the gap between Kaguya and Madara, if anyone thinks any form of Madara is somehow doing something against Kaguya they need to read the Introduction of Kaguya again. Juubito should not even be capable of breathing the air of that fierce atmosphere.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

everything's so peaceful? time to reignite what I couldn't continue

especially since your original post doesnt even come off as criticism of the story and more like your just mad vegeta listened to his wife.

its criticism of the character, vegeta didnt listen to his wife, she had to threaten him and he obeyed her when she threatened to stop intimacy, very very different from what youre tryna falsely paint

seems like it to me, or else why even bring it up in the first place.

nuh uh, it never seemed like that, me saying a man is a pussy for letting his wife threaten him =/= me saying he cant enjoy quality time with his wife

relationships where one side acts like intimacy is reward or lack of it is punishment just make me cringe and think one of the spouses are just a beta pussy

Vegeta's entire character arc in Z was about

Him dropping a fight he didn't need to be in for someone he cares about more than his pride and letting Goku, who is much more equipped to deal with this situation is fine, if they were really in danger with no other option we know from other examples that he would override Bulma and that Bulma wouldn't interfere.

...yeah there's just one issue he didnt drop the fight because of nobility or cuz of letting go of his ego or because he cares about her

he dropped fighting because he's scared of not being able to take a bath with her (Lmao)
letting someone weaponise absence of intimacy to punish you just makes me loose respect for vegeta as a character

It was also just a comedy scene, there's nothing emasculating about dropping your ego for a spouse, that's just maturity.

that's the issue....he didnt drop it due to lack of ego, he did it out of fear, like you're defending the headcanon version of daima

Let's not act like Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't sleep on the couch like good little boys if Hinata and Sakura were mad at them.

yeah no this isnt happening with naruto and sasuke

hinata respects naruto and would never treat him like that
sakura had to beg sasuke pathetically several times to stay lmfao, she doesnt have the balls to try that with sasuke

maybe this might happen with shikamaru but I never gaf about him so idc if he gets slandered

Everyone acting like they wouldn't drop sumn silly to bathe with their wives are just lying.

if you really drop sth youre enthusiastic about out of fear of not getting bath times you need to evaluate your relationship (but i get the strawman its just not what i was ever attacking)

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Physical speed tier list, not taking into account things like Shunshin or jutsu faster than the user/speed amping techniques (unless it's shown in the image like with WA Raikiri Kakashi, Susanoo, etc.)

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

"speed amping techniques"

my brother that is what defines their speed
everyone and their mother is amping speeds with chakra, all those feats are born thanks to that

you cant even gauge non amped speeds since almost everyone will be either human or athlete level and you wont even be able to discern between them properly

 

[MinatoSparkle]

"speed amping techniques"

my brother that is what defines their speed
everyone and their mother is amping speeds with chakra, all those feats are born thanks to that

you cant even gauge non amped speeds since almost everyone will be either human or athlete level and you wont even be able to discern between them properly

By technique I mean a particular jutsu like Boil Release, not basic chakra enhancement. It's like talking about "Base" Gojo (AKA only using CE reinforcement) vs Gojo amping his speed with Blue

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I mean you said shunshin which isnt really different from your normally using your top chakra enhanced speed, theyre doing the same thing (I dont watch jjk so i didnt get that)

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I mean you said shunshin which isnt really different from your normally using your top chakra enhanced speed, theyre doing the same thing (I dont watch jjk so i didnt get that)

Shunshin gives you a burst of speed that makes you almost invisible, it's very different from simple chakra enhancement

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Which one of Sarada’s currently “Anime Only” Jutsu do you want to see show up in the manga?

Personally, the Lightning Cloak Jutsu.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Shunshin gives you a burst of speed that makes you almost invisible, it's very different from simple chakra enhancement

the invisibility is based on whos perceiving you, if im 5000x faster youre not gonna appear to be invisible, youll just be amping your chakra and walking a little faster, there is no difference whatsoever from the two things, all characters are constantly performing feats with that exact amping method

 

[Nierre]

Which one of Sarada’s currently “Anime Only” Jutsu do you want to see show up in the manga?

Personally, the Lightning Cloak Jutsu.

Genjutsu

 

[MinatoSparkle]

the invisibility is based on whos perceiving you, if im 5000x faster youre not gonna appear to be invisible, youll just be amping your chakra and walking a little faster, there is no difference whatsoever from the two things, all characters are constantly performing feats with that exact amping method

I'm talking about against characters on your level, Shunshin is consistently portrayed to be a blitz tier above your regular combat speed

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I'm talking about against characters on your level, Shunshin is consistently portrayed to be a blitz tier above your regular combat speed

yeah no, there's logically nothing it can provide that you cant with standard chakra speed enhancement because both are the same thing


we consider some stuff to be beyond your normal techniques like the sharingan and susano powers because it simply draws in more chakra than non dojutsu jutsu do so youre left unable to amp other things on the same level


this isnt the case, there's no secret thing that is powering your feet harder that you dont use in combat, either way just assuming a normal scenario with that doesnt make sense
a and b fight, a amps his speed to blitz b, b does the same, they both fight in amped state/top speeds so the whole thing of trying to separate this becomes utterly useless since theyre doing those things anyway

 

[MinatoSparkle]

yeah no, there's logically nothing it can provide that you cant with standard chakra speed enhancement because both are the same thing

If they were the same thing, one would wonder why one is a ninjutsu while the other isn't

we consider some stuff to be beyond your normal techniques like the sharingan and susano powers because it simply draws in more chakra than non dojutsu jutsu do so youre left unable to amp other things on the same level


this isnt the case, there's no secret thing that is powering your feet harder that you dont use in combat, either way just assuming a normal scenario with that doesnt make sense
a and b fight, a amps his speed to blitz b, b does the same, they both fight in amped state/top speeds so the whole thing of trying to separate this becomes utterly useless since theyre doing those things anyway

People don't constantly use Shunshin in combat (with a few exceptions like Ay and possibly Shisui), it's like Kaioken but only for speed.

Also, why are we having this conversation, it really doesn't matter to the subject

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

If they were the same thing, one would wonder why one is a ninjutsu while the other isn't

It’s using chakra and functionally using the exact same formula….

People don't constantly use Shunshin in combat (with a few exceptions like Ay and possibly Shisui), it's like Kaioken but only for speed.

They do use their highest speeds regardless of being ss or not, there’s no magical boundary that they can access amidst getting beat up in a fight or else every single character can out speed the other

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

if you really drop sth youre enthusiastic about out of fear of not getting bath times you need to evaluate your relationship (but i get the strawman its just not what i was ever attacking)

Vegeta isn't dropping fighting in its entirety tho... he's exiting one battle early because he values his wife and his affection for his wife more than continuing to fight Goma... like it's not that deep bruh, his relationship with Bulma is fine

 

[Testarossa002]

hinata respects naruto and would never treat him like that

I don't have a dog in this fight but Hinata has sent Naruto out of the house before because she was mad at him

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It’s using chakra and functionally using the exact same formula….

Or maybe it's much more significant than that like is portrayed

They do use their highest speeds regardless of being ss or not, there’s no magical boundary that they can access amidst getting beat up in a fight or else every single character can out speed the other

No, Shunshin is simply superior to anything a ninja can pull off just using their highest general speed. Shunshin does allow you to outspeed your peers. Sakura blitzes Ino with it and Naruto using Shunshin blitzes past Ay.

 

[Testarossa002]

yeah no, there's logically nothing it can provide that you cant with standard chakra speed enhancement because both are the same thing

Shunshin and regular chakra enhancement have the same fundamental mechanics but both are treated very differently in-verse. Some ninjas even need to make hand signs before utilizing Shunshin
Same thing with strength where Tsunade and Sakura are being regarded as the only ones to use chakra enhanced strength even though every ninja can already augment their punches with chakra
There's probably a drawback to continously enhancing your body with chakra way beyond the normal threshold. Which is why very few characters (Ay, Adult Nard/Sauce, Shisui, Victor, probably Minato, P2 Sasuke) use Shunshin in combat despite the very obvious speed boost it gives

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Shunshin and regular chakra enhancement have the same fundamental mechanics but both are treated very differently in-verse. Some ninjas even need to make hand signs before utilizing Shunshin
Same thing with strength where Tsunade and Sakura are being regarded as the only ones to use chakra enhanced strength even though every ninja can already augment their punches with chakra
There's probably a drawback to continously enhancing your body with chakra way beyond the normal threshold. Which is why very few characters (Ay, Adult Nard/Sauce, Shisui, Victor, probably Minato, P2 Sasuke) use Shunshin in combat despite the very obvious speed boost it gives

Iirc, continuously using Chakra to Augment your physicals burns your tank faster as Stamina is a major component for Taijutsu & Chakra Moulding.