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None of Kaguya's abilities are thought based except her dimension switching.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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I could see it being slightly more due to Kin + Gin, but how is it way more?
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Well the bigger issue is the light being omnidirectional.
Oh yeah she can use regular eye contact based genjustu since she has the powers of the sharingan but she didn't use it on screen since her opponents hard countered genjutsu
Fear manip based is just from her presence (but that's currently missing from the profile) and her other one works on contact.
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Would you say Kaguya can beat Zeno via these haxes? Because if she does win, it will be a history as able beating a low complex multi character
MinatoSparkle
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Do you mean Yin and Yang?
50% Kurama isn't even that far above WA SM Naruto and should only be marginally superior to KCM Naruto as Naruto took a large portion of his power, leaving him ragged af (and if anything it should be close to all of it), meanwhile 100% Kurama is a Founders rival
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Maybe? We would have to see what DB supporters have to say about it.
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Zen'ō erases her before she can do anything.
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I think he's talking with speed equalization
XSOULOFCINDERX
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That doesn't even make sense. He's literally at half of his power.
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With speed equalized. Since Kaguya has a thought based genjutsu hax, she would paralysis Zeno and then go deconstruct him
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Oh, then it's a bit more debatable, but I still feel like his EE is a lot easier to pull off and is pretty much his first go-to move.
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Her genjutsu is not thought based. None of her abilities are thought based except her dimension switching.
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How is visual genjutsu not thought based? Ik you have to like, conjure up chakra and release it out of your eye but you do all that but that's all thought based shenanigans
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Well then Kaguya would likely still win due to Zeno need to raise his arm and clench his fist to erase someone
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Kaguya would need to like, have prior info tho. Because she doesn't just immediately open up with genjutsu. She would likely monolog about how immortal she is and get erased.
Well it's also a question of how EE works. Because Kaguya should have baseline resistance but Zenos erases you from the history not just present so it might bypass it?
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You need to actually establish eye contact for it to work and you need to actually activate the visual Jutsu you're using.
It's not a "I think it, and the ability comes into existence instantly" sort of situation. Unlike her dimension switching, which actually happens instantly as soon as she decides to use it.
Maybe. That's for the people who will be debating on the vs thread to decide.
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Zen'ō's EE is far beyond anything the TSOs can do lol. It's also layered.
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Well if it's like that, then Zeno would start being goofy around as a child. In the Vs thread, it would be who can do the first move mostly
As long Kaguya can paralysis Zeno first via her genjutsu, she wins
MinatoSparkle
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Yin and Yang combined are greater than the sum of its parts, it's just like Naruto and Sasuke
Arkenis
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Jiraiya
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Hashirama literally compared KCM2 Naruto to himself.
MinatoSparkle
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1. KCM2 Naruto>Lone 50% Kurama
2. That statement's about chakra volume specifically
3. It might only be about Base Hashirama tbh
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Which would then correlate to BSM being roughly Sage Hashirama level, especially since he and Sasuke performed significantly better against Jūbito than anyone else did.
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Well eye contact is usually the first thing people do, it's not like it takes time unless the opponent has knowledge about genjutsu. And activating is basically just molding chakra and releasing it which seems to be nigh instant. So while it's not literally thought based, it essentially works like it is.
I mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.
No because SBA would makes Zeno want to kill Kaguya from the start. Although it's hard to say what Kaguya would do in a situation like that given her limited screen time.
Yeah ig.
But ngl I kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread
MinatoSparkle
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I agree, not sure what this has to do with 50% Kurama himself.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Because him being anything less than half of his full power is stupid.
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No because SBA would makes Zeno want to kill Kaguya from the start. Although it's hard to say what Kaguya would do in a situation like that given her limited screen time.
Yeah ig.
But ngl I kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread
You wanna make the VS thread perhaps. If Kaguya wins, it would be huge
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No, it's not.
How is it layered ? Did Zeno also deleted the Zeno from the other timelines ?
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Good ol Goku sparkle would have handed it to you that Zeno can erase gods who are resistant to EE
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Nah, likely I said
But you can make it if you're interested. I might participate in that caseI kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread
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Nah bro, you be the star. If Kaguya wins, everyone would go start praisin you fr. Also even if Kaguya loses, it wont really matter as it is against a low complex multi being
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I'm not saying ocular genjutsu is bad or hard to pull off. It's pretty OP. It's just not thought based, technically speaking.
Yeah, sorry. I should've elaborated lol.
Zen'ō can casually erase Gods of Destruction, who can resist Hakai, which erases mind, body and soul from existence across all of history. He can also erase Space-Time, and beings who have merged with it.
As for his range, he can casually erase multiple universes at once.
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This thread moves so quickly. 4 - 5 pages per day.
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No, I mean Kinkaku(funny-ass name) and Ginkaku.
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Yes, it is. Believe me, I'm THE TSO guy on this site lol.
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@karo_senpaii would help you greatly here too
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So let me get this straight… the only thing scaling 100% Kurama “Far Above” his 50% Variant is just Hasirama scaling? 
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Yes, I'm planning to revamp her profile. But I need to get the chakra blog done first because a few of the things I'm planning to give her require the blog being accepted as a prerequisite.
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They have theirs strength and weakness
