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Oh, then it's a bit more debatable, but I still feel like his EE is a lot easier to pull off and is pretty much his first go-to move.I think he's talking with speed equalization
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Oh, then it's a bit more debatable, but I still feel like his EE is a lot easier to pull off and is pretty much his first go-to move.I think he's talking with speed equalization
Her genjutsu is not thought based. None of her abilities are thought based except her dimension switching.With speed equalized. Since Kaguya has a thought based genjutsu hax, she would paralysis Zeno and then go deconstruct him
How is visual genjutsu not thought based? Ik you have to like, conjure up chakra and release it out of your eye but you do all that but that's all thought based shenanigansHer genjutsu is not thought based. None of her abilities are thought based except her dimension switching.
Well then Kaguya would likely still win due to Zeno need to raise his arm and clench his fist to erase someoneHer genjutsu is not thought based. None of her abilities are thought based except her dimension switching.
Well then Kaguya would likely still win due to Zeno need to raise his arm and clench his fist to erase someone
You need to actually establish eye contact for it to work and you need to actually activate the visual Jutsu you're using.How is visual genjutsu not thought based? Ik you have to like, conjure up chakra and release it out of your eye but you do all that but that's all thought based shenanigans
Well then Kaguya would likely still win due to Zeno need to raise his arm and clench his fist to erase someone
Zen'ō's EE is far beyond anything the TSOs can do lol. It's also layered.Kaguya would need to like, have prior info tho. Because she doesn't just immediately open up with genjutsu. She would likely monolog about how immortal she is and get erased.
Well it's also a question of how EE works. Because Kaguya should have baseline resistance but Zenos erases you from the history not just present so it might bypass it?
Well if it's like that, then Zeno would start being goofy around as a child. In the Vs thread, it would be who can do the first move mostlyKaguya would need to like, have prior info tho. Because she doesn't just immediately open up with genjutsu. She would likely monolog about how immortal she is and get erased.
Well it's also a question of how EE works. Because Kaguya should have baseline resistance but Zenos erases you from the history not just present so it might bypass it?
Yin and Yang combined are greater than the sum of its parts, it's just like Naruto and SasukeThat doesn't even make sense. He's literally at half of his power.
JiraiyaSasori vs Sage Jiraiya. Who do you think is stronger and would win a possible match?
Hashirama literally compared KCM2 Naruto to himself.Yin and Yang combined are greater than the sum of its parts, it's just like Naruto and Sasuke
1. KCM2 Naruto>Lone 50% KuramaHashirama literally compared KCM2 Naruto to himself.
Which would then correlate to BSM being roughly Sage Hashirama level, especially since he and Sasuke performed significantly better against Jūbito than anyone else did.1. KCM2 Naruto>Lone 50% Kurama
2. That statement's about chakra volume specifically
3. It might only be about Base Hashirama tbh
Well eye contact is usually the first thing people do, it's not like it takes time unless the opponent has knowledge about genjutsu. And activating is basically just molding chakra and releasing it which seems to be nigh instant. So while it's not literally thought based, it essentially works like it is.You need to actually establish eye contact for it to work and you need to actually activate the visual Jutsu you're using.
It's not a "I think it, and the ability comes into existence instantly" sort of situation. Unlike her dimension switching, which actually happens instantly as soon as she decides to use it.
I mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.Zen'ō's EE is far beyond anything the TSOs can do lol. It's also layered.
No because SBA would makes Zeno want to kill Kaguya from the start. Although it's hard to say what Kaguya would do in a situation like that given her limited screen time.Well if it's like that, then Zeno would start being goofy around as a child. In the Vs thread, it would be who can do the first move mostly
Yeah ig.As long Kaguya can paralysis Zeno first via her genjutsu, she wins
I agree, not sure what this has to do with 50% Kurama himself.Which would then correlate to BSM being roughly Sage Hashirama level, especially since he and Sasuke performed significantly better against Jūbito than anyone else did.
Because him being anything less than half of his full power is stupid.I agree, not sure what this has to do with 50% Kurama himself.
No because SBA would makes Zeno want to kill Kaguya from the start. Although it's hard to say what Kaguya would do in a situation like that given her limited screen time.
Yeah ig.
But ngl I kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread
No, it's not.Zen'ō's EE is far beyond anything the TSOs can do lol. It's also layered
Good ol Goku sparkle would have handed it to you that Zeno can erase gods who are resistant to EEI mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.
Nah, likely I saidYou wanna make the VS thread perhaps. If Kaguya wins, it would be huge
But you can make it if you're interested. I might participate in that caseI kidna hate these weak haxxed character vs strong character without resistances to the hax thread
Nah bro, you be the star. If Kaguya wins, everyone would go start praisin you fr. Also even if Kaguya loses, it wont really matter as it is against a low complex multi beingNah, likely I said
But you can make it if you're interested. I might participate in that case
I'm not saying ocular genjutsu is bad or hard to pull off. It's pretty OP. It's just not thought based, technically speaking.Well eye contact is usually the first thing people do, it's not like it takes time unless the opponent has knowledge about genjutsu. And activating is basically just molding chakra and releasing it which seems to be nigh instant. So while it's not literally thought based, it essentially works like it is.
Yeah, sorry. I should've elaborated lol.I mean yeah that's why I asked whether range like that goes beyond resistances. And is it layered? I couldn't see anything on his page, verse page, or the layer evaluation thread.
No, I mean Kinkaku(funny-ass name) and Ginkaku.Do you mean Yin and Yang?
Yes, it is. Believe me, I'm THE TSO guy on this site lol.No, it's not.
@karo_senpaii would help you greatly here tooNah bro, you be the star. If Kaguya wins, everyone would go start praisin you fr. Also even if Kaguya loses, it wont really matter as it is against a low complex multi being
Yes, I'm planning to revamp her profile. But I need to get the chakra blog done first because a few of the things I'm planning to give her require the blog being accepted as a prerequisite.Aren’t there plans to update Kaguya’s profile a bit? Maybe hold off on that match
They have theirs strength and weaknessYes, it is. Believe me, I'm THE TSO guy on this site lol.
Don't you think Sage Mode is a 10 times+ multiplier anyways? That would make SM Hashirama more than 5x above 50% KuramaBecause him being anything less than half of his full power is stupid.
I do not recall this unfortunatelyGood ol Goku sparkle would have handed it to you that Zeno can erase gods who are resistant to EE
Do you mean they ate some of 100% Kurama's chakra so he wasn't at his strongest when split in two?No, I mean Kinkaku(funny-ass name) and Ginkaku.
That and scaling to Madara's Perfect SusanooSo let me get this straight… the only thing scaling 100% Kurama “Far Above” his 50% Variant is just Hasirama scaling?
You mean impact? If so, yes.@MinatoSparkle
Does the 3rd Databook actually say the Odama Rasengan size is proportional to the size of a would be Asteroid strike?
Ye. I guess Hashirama didn't fight him when he had all that either though. For anime fans, they also sealed a little bit in Sora(that fight did NOT go how I wanted it to.)Do you mean they ate some of 100% Kurama's chakra so he wasn't at his strongest when split in two?
Complete Kurama>Founders meta (not really)Ye. I guess Hashirama didn't fight him when he had all that either though. For anime fans, they also sealed a little bit in Sora(that fight did NOT go how I wanted it to.)
I SHOULD BE WRITING FILLER ARCS, I DO NOT CARE. Why on EARTH did they not have Naruto go 4-Tails and rock 4-Tail Sora's shit???(that fight did NOT go how I wanted it to.)
Base Hashirama is not > Kurama.So what’s wrong with:
Base Hashirama >= 100% Kurama (x2) > 50% Kurama (x5) > Regular Biju?
Ok, sure. What about the rest of it?Base Hashirama is not > Kurama.
KCM2 Naruto>50% Kurama and Edo BM Jin>BijuuOk, sure. What about the rest of it?