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I'm really curious for the people that have the normal and War Arc Bijuu at the same level what they think of War Arc Bijuu~KCM Naruto>>PA SM Naruto>SM Jiraiya>>Base Jiraiya~/>Gamabunta<~Shukaku
 
I'm really curious for the people that have the normal and War Arc Bijuu at the same level what they think of War Arc Bijuu~KCM Naruto>>PA SM Naruto>SM Jiraiya>>Base Jiraiya~/>Gamabunta<~Shukaku
I think Shukaku was weakened on the Konoha Crush due to Gaara popping back out, and was still superior to Gamabunta, who I say is superior to Base Jiraiya
 
Mk

I thought that's for Base to 8th Gate?

Can still use them for more than a handful of strikes. 6th Gate Guy literally launches hundreds of attacks with Asakujaku

Pain~Jiraiya~/>Orochimaru>CM2 Hebi Sasuke>>3T Hebi Sasuke>3T Taka Sasuke<~Base Bee<~Base Kisame

Ok but Kisame is not taking an attack from FKS Kakashi with literally no reaction. Bee's chakra or not. Pre-War Bee and FKS Kakashi are around the same level

Bruh. Haku is legitimately a 3T Kid Sasuke victim (and it's a pretty big difference too), he's not touching Sannin level whatsoever.

I could see his Raikiri piercing through it and it would definitely damage Madara's body

If anything wouldn't injecting them with chakra help to control them better? It's not like he's freely giving them his chakra for their own personal use, he's manipulating them with that chakra
2. Na 7th to 8th has an accepted 24x multiplier.
3. Worst come to worst kakashi also uses first gate
4. Like I said not much difference.
5. Attacks like raikiri? Sure? A punch? He definitely is
6. This take is so horrendous i don't even know where to begin from.
7. I disagree. Cracking a big if. Piercing and destroying and then still incapacitating is nowhere near what kakashi can achieve
8.
 
So has anyone ever calculated sasuke speed for flying to the ground before IT light can even be visible on earth? Gotta be a good supporting feat
 
I'm really curious for the people that have the normal and War Arc Bijuu at the same level what they think of War Arc Bijuu~KCM Naruto>>PA SM Naruto>SM Jiraiya>>Base Jiraiya~/>Gamabunta<~Shukaku
I don’t think War Arc Biju are that much stronger tbh. As a Biju, Shukaku should still be in the same Ball Park and level via his TBB which, like Gyuuki, they (1-8) should all be able to tank albeit it’s “Incapacitating” for them as Gyuuki was COOKED after it.

Also, why do you have Base Jiraiya ~> Gamabunta? Only Orochimaru is implied to control Manda via the threat of his Jutsu.
 
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Would she know that's a temporary level of strength?
When he says surpass Tsunade, he might not just mean power. For example, Tenten wanted to be a good shinobi as Tsunade. Tsunade is not as strong as him. Similarly, Chiyo might mean being a good kunoichi. Even if he were to talk about power, Sasori fight Sakura, a summon like Katsuya, and she doesn't have as much experience as Tsunade.

Also, can Chiyo-baa read power levels?
 
Then why didn't he just one-shot the Bijū if his Gate Multipliers and Base Form are that insane?
I'm talking according to my own scaling, I think Gai and Kakashi can solo the bijuu even if they are not early war arcs, but in mid and late war arcs. At worst, they will lose to Kurama 100%.

Even in the early War Arc Kakashi threw a speed blitz at the edo Jinchuuriki who were pushing KCM1 Naruto. In this wiki, Kakashi won in Wa Kakashi vs KCM1 Naruto.
 
Sub rel base might guy?
My friend Halkum had a crt about this but it was not accepted.


If you ask me, Base Gai should scale to Naruto in terms of speed since he was able to help Naruto in a fight against him. After all, you can't help someone who is faster than you in a fight.
 
Would you say Kaguya can beat Zeno via these haxes? Because if she does win, it will be a history as able beating a low complex multi character
I can say that Zeno's erasing hax from existence is 5-D. It seems like Kaguya's resistance won't save her.
 
That's what I'm saying. Or a fire cloak.

Best I can do is an Amaterasu Sword that can launch Amaterasu spikes. Take it or leave it.
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How cool would it be if Sarada had a Cloak of Amaterasu around her that Auto Reacted with Enton barriers or spikes, ala Gaara’s Sand?
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP IT, WE ARE NOT PUTTING SARADA'S MS ABILITY BEING AMATERASU OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE. NO WAY. LET'S NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS. AHHHHHHHHHH
 
Because the point was that Naruto was trying to reach out to Sora and rejecting Kurama's power showed him he could do it too?
Yeah, he should have rejected the power after the beatdown, so it's like "see? He can reject even MORE power."
 
2. Na 7th to 8th has an accepted 24x multiplier.
Can you link where it was accepted
3. Worst come to worst kakashi also uses first gate
Uhhh i mean he could but that's not in character whatsoever.
4. Like I said not much difference.
Um, it kind of is
5. Attacks like raikiri? Sure? A punch? He definitely is
He has other ninjutsu than just Raikiri
6. This take is so horrendous i don't even know where to begin from.
It's very blatant. 3T Sasuke>VOTE KM0 Naruto>LoW KM0 Naruto>Haku
7. I disagree. Cracking a big if. Piercing and destroying and then still incapacitating is nowhere near what kakashi can achieve
He hasn't shown that level of feats but he should be able to considering his narrative relativity to Guy.
I don’t think War Arc Biju are that much stronger tbh. As a Biju, Shukaku should still be in the same Ball Park and level via his TBB which, like Gyuuki, they (1-8) should all be able to tank albeit it’s “Incapacitating” for them as Gyuuki was COOKED after it.

Also, why do you have Base Jiraiya ~> Gamabunta? Only Orochimaru is implied to control Manda via the threat of his Jutsu.
They do a combination jutsu which needs matching chakra levels as seen with MKCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke Inferno Rasenshurikens, and that was when Jiraiya was drugged.

Also even if you say that's only ninjutsu and not physicals, SM Naruto's physicals are definitely Bijuu level considering he withstood Shinra Tensei better than the Gamatrio, and he's still far below KCM Naruto and thus the Edo Jins
When he says surpass Tsunade, he might not just mean power. For example, Tenten wanted to be a good shinobi as Tsunade. Tsunade is not as strong as him. Similarly, Chiyo might mean being a good kunoichi. Even if he were to talk about power, Sasori fight Sakura, a summon like Katsuya, and she doesn't have as much experience as Tsunade.

Also, can Chiyo-baa read power levels?
She saw her performance in the fight clearly
 
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