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And how do I do that. Btw has any staff commented here already?By getting Staff to comment here.
Damage and ShadowAnd how do I do that. Btw has any staff commented here already?
Damage agreed to an extent and so did shadow. Is that enough?Damage and Shadow
Not sureDamage agreed to an extent and so did shadow. Is that enough?
Also the feat were Naruto overpowered the golden wheel was with one half of kurama. He sent the other half out to fight the otsutsuki golemI disagree. The problem is that it's entirely likely thanks to the six paths juice and Naruto having a 100% Kurama that the gap between forms are much smaller. Atleast Moon Level+ Likely much higher seems more accurate based on what we know. this is because we don't have a good reference point for upscaling outside of just saying the form is stronger.
However I do think Naruto should just straight upscale to low 5-B in certain circumstances, ill post in a bit.
Neither of them agreed with your OP though. Damage disagreed, but wants more staff input and will concede if more staff agrees. Shadow also disagreed, for now. Shadow has intents to post their own justification for Low 5-B it seems. Also for a Naruto thread, two staff support is not near enough support.Damage agreed to an extent and so did shadow. Is that enough?
I have no idea. That statement was also calced to about small planet level. It wouldn’t be an outlier because weaker characters such as toneri have feats close to small planet levelShould be done far before anyways I agree also I have a question why kinshiki's databook Statement about cutting worlds was mit Accepted here?!?
Yes it wouldnt be an outlier at all idk why it was not accepted thats definitely low 5-B if we assume mid ends like earth sized planetsI have no idea. That statement was also calced to about small planet level. It wouldn’t be an outlier because weaker characters such as toneri have feats close to small planet level
100%Yes it wouldnt be an outlier at all idk why it was not accepted thats definitely low 5-B if we assume mid ends like earth sized planets
It was a mistranslation, the text actually said that he can just split apart the earth as in the substance and not planetShould be done far before anyways I agree also I have a question why kinshiki's databook Statement about cutting worlds was mit Accepted here?!?
What makes that translation better than the original thoIt was a mistranslation, the text actually said that he can just split apart the earth as in the substance and not planet
the fact that the kanji used literally means ground lolWhat makes that translation better than the original tho
Lmfaothe fact that the kanji used literally means ground lol
Mistranslation?!? I will check it then Split apart the earth?!? Planet Earth or ground!?!??It was a mistranslation, the text actually said that he can just split apart the earth as in the substance and not planet
It means ground-shattering. 地 (which is the kanji used) literally reffers to the ground, or i.e. earth as a substance and not the planetMistranslation?!? I will check it then Split apart the earth?!? Planet Earth or ground!?!??
I See its Ji yes it means groundIt means ground-shattering. 地 (which is the kanji used) literally reffers to the ground, or i.e. earth as a substance and not the planet
Would you argue that the gap between The Last KCM Naruto and Isshiki isn't at least 1.22 times?I don't see the need for upscaling. Saying "Well, they have to be exactly 1.22 times higher than this feat from a lower character" makes no logical sense to me.
To me, it's basically an argument of "I want these characters to be rated higher than the highest calced feat for any of them".
If more staff members support it, then go ahead, but I personally don't see the point.
Not necessarily. We it was kcm sage. We don’t know how much of a gap regular sage mode and six paths sage mode is. But I already proved why they’re atleast twice as strong as the toneri feat.Would you argue that the gap between The Last KCM Naruto and Isshiki isn't at least 1.22 times?
On second thought, why is this even a question? I thought Sage Mode had an accepted 10x multiplier, meaning New Era SPSM is at least 10x stronger than Toneri's moon feat.
Yeah, I corrected my post, everybody refers to the Naruto that fought Toneri as just KCM so it had me confused for a second there.Not necessarily. We it was kcm sage. We don’t know how much of a gap regular sage mode and six paths sage mode is. But I already proved why they’re atleast twice as strong as the toneri feat.
He was using KCM Sage Mode;Would you argue that the gap between The Last KCM Naruto and Isshiki isn't at least 1.22 times?
On second thought, why is this even a question? I thought Sage Mode had an accepted 10x multiplier, meaning New Era SPSM is at least 10x stronger than Toneri's moon feat.
Kinda forgot he was using Sage Mode against Toneri.
Just curious, but wouldn't 1.22x be a lowball considering Naruto casually overpowers Toneri's attack in not even his strongest form no less?
True, but he still ran through it without the force of the attack stopping him in his tracks. Though I do get the point that he still concentrated all of his chakra, I don't think we have a reason to believe that it would be scale to his strongest forms like SOSP mode.What makes you think it is casual? From the looks of it, Naruto has to concentrate all of his chakra into one hand in order to block it. Which means it is requiring a lot more effort from him than normal.
What makes you think it is casual? From the looks of it, Naruto has to concentrate all of his chakra into one hand in order to block it. Which means it is requiring a lot more effort from him than normal.
I mean Kaguya does have dura negging abilities, but we don't know what or how it happened. We just know that the Otsutsuki have laws against attacking other clansmen and that Isshiki was off guard (probably to the point where he wouldn't even dream or think of Kaguya even having a thought of backstabbing) so ehh, could be also PISi don't know man. kaguya messed up isshiki pretty badly, lower ranking or not.
It’s completely a lowballJust curious, but wouldn't 1.22x be a lowball considering Naruto casually overpowers Toneri's attack in not even his strongest form no less? I feel like assuming baseline Small Planet Level might be the safest option for KCM Sage Mode and both SPSM and Baryon Mode would get an "at least" rating.
He didn’t even have the second kurama meaning he also didn’t have as much senjutsu. It was effortless broWhat makes you think it is casual? From the looks of it, Naruto has to concentrate all of his chakra into one hand in order to block it. Which means it is requiring a lot more effort from him than normal.
I don’t think naruto and sasuke are weaker than fused momoshiki. Remeber they fought him at roughly 50%What about scaling chain?
Toneri (355.31 Exatons) < Surpressed BSM Naruto (The Last) < Full Power BSM Naruto (The Last) < SPSM Naruto (Part 2 and New Era) = New Era Sasuke < Fused Momoshiki < Kaguya < Jigen < Isshiki = Baryon Mode Naruto
(In case you bring up Kaguya vs Momoshiki again, I'm simply following the site rules)
Specifically stated that isshiki was off guard too. If kaguya was stronger than isshiki then she wouldn’t have needed to catch him off guardI mean Kaguya does have dura negging abilities, but we don't know what or how it happened. We just know that the Otsutsuki have laws against attacking other clansmen and that Isshiki was off guard (probably to the point where he wouldn't even dream or think of Kaguya even having a thought of backstabbing) so ehh, could be also PIS
True, so I guess they would be at the very least equal? Maybe equals in taijutsu cuz the moment he used ninjutsu, he easily knocked out Sasuke and even stomped Kurama Avatar Naruto.I don’t think naruto and sasuke are weaker than fused momoshiki. Remeber they fought him at roughly 50%
50% chakra, site wise chakra isnt the same as ap and powerI don’t think naruto and sasuke are weaker than fused momoshiki. Remeber they fought him at roughly 50%
I’m pretty sure if naruto absorbed all nature on the planet and was in peak condition he would have beaten momoshiki on his ownTrue, so I guess they would be at the very least equal? Maybe equals in taijutsu cuz the moment he used ninjutsu, he easily knocked out Sasuke and even stomped Kurama Avatar Naruto.
Ffs50% chakra, site wise chakra isnt the same as ap and power
Unless its directly bijuu chakra I don't think it counts as AP/whatever. So I believe Naruto would've been at around 50%, though thats still vauge given that Momoshiki only sucked out Kurama's Chakra and its questionable whether he sucked out six paths which is Naruto's main source of power
How about instead of complaining about it, you actually try to argue it?