Naruto-Boruto God tiers low 5B upscale

[Nullflowerblush]

This kinda is relevant to the thread, considering the basis for your upscaling is Naruto being in, supposedly, casual one-shotting range of Toneri, which as both the movie and the novelization have proved is false.

 

[Damage3245]

We know he didn’t use all his “might” because he didn’t even use spsm. But this isn’t even relevant to the thread.

And you know for a fact that he wasn't concentrating his SPSM into his fist too?

 

[sageof8paths]

And you know for a fact that he wasn't concentrating his SPSM into his fist too?

We have no proof he was doing that so why would we assume such

 

[sageof8paths]

We have no proof he was doing that so why would we assume such

Also this isn’t relevant to this thread as we know naruto and sasuke individually should atleast scale to the golden wheel.

 

[RanaProGamer]

And you know for a fact that he wasn't concentrating his SPSM into his fist too?

Doesn't his eye colour change when using SPSM even in base form?

 

[RanaProGamer]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/isnt-adult-base-naruto-6-a-to-possibly-5-c.117181/#post-3793911 cuz here, Shadow showed that the only indication of SPSM is not him going all yellow, but his eyes. Which we don't see when Naruto punches Toneri.

 

[aeneax]

It seems pretty obvious to me that a difference of 1.22x is almost nothing considering Naruto wasn't even using Six Paths Senjutsu against Toneri. I find it pretty easy to say that the most powerful chakra state in the verse is far more than a 1.22x multiplier.

 

[The_Alxhemist]

And you know for a fact that he wasn't concentrating his SPSM into his fist too?

There's absolutely zero reason to assume SPSM was used. If you think it was then burden of proof is on you to show that

 

[Damage3245]

There's absolutely zero reason to assume SPSM was used. If you think it was then burden of proof is on you to show that

I don't think it necessarily was. But lack of proof goes both ways.

If it is clarified that he used "all his might" in that attack, why would he also be holding back significantly?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Along with that, he quite literally dropped out of his form and concentrated that power into his arm.
What makes you think that his fist is not bathed in Six Paths Sage juices?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

"All his might" should only be taken with a grain of salt. You have no idea how many times characters in fiction say things like "I won't hold back" or "I'll give it all I got" and then do a feat casually.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

That was not Naruto who stated he was striking with "all his might". That was the third person, omniscient narrator.

 

[Avengershows]

"All his might" could easily reffer to his current form, plus if he did concentrate all his power into his fist, he'd still have the Six Paths eyes based on what happened to Madara vs SPSM Naruto but that's speculation

 

[KingAllen30]

"All his might" could easily reffer to his current form, plus if he did concentrate all his power into his fist, he'd still have the Six Paths eyes based on what happened to Madara vs SPSM Naruto but that's speculation

Yes if he really going all out his eyes would also change

 

[sageof8paths]

This kinda is relevant to the thread, considering the basis for your upscaling is Naruto being in, supposedly, casual one-shotting range of Toneri, which as both the movie and the novelization have proved is false.

No tf it’s not. Go re-read my argument. I said the majestic attire susano and those above it should scale to small planet level. Not six paths naruto and sasuke individually. U guys really didn’t read my thread

 

[sageof8paths]

It seems pretty obvious to me that a difference of 1.22x is almost nothing considering Naruto wasn't even using Six Paths Senjutsu against Toneri. I find it pretty easy to say that the most powerful chakra state in the verse is far more than a 1.22x multiplier.

You guys are getting my thread wrong

 

[sageof8paths]

You guys are getting my thread wrong.

 

[sageof8paths]

All I’m saying is that the majestic attire susano would be low 5B is since it should be a bare minimum of 2 times stronger than the toneri feat lowballing naruto and sasuke each. And for the people above it should also be low 5B. I highly recommend to read my entire argument again. I’m not trying to say that naruto should be low 5B just because he one shotted toneri as we do not have substantial proof of how much of an increase a one shot is in naruto. If you re-read my arguements there should be no contention in the comments of this thread

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Guys, it literally couldn't have been SPSM. If it were, his eyes would have the cross pattern. He only concentrated his Chakra Mode's power in his arm, AKA. KCM/KCSM.
Enough with this overblown guessing game, m'kay?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Sure, Low 5-B for MAS. I can agree to that.

But why stop here? We can go further beyond.
There is a statement from Saikyō Jump that declares that Naruto's Tailed Beast Mode can destroy the Earth ("earth" as in the planet, not the ground), and considering they are more powerful than a Moon level+ characters, there should be no contentions with the scaling, yes?

 

[sageof8paths]

Guys, it literally couldn't have been SPSM. If it were, his eyes would have the cross pattern. He only concentrated his Chakra Mode's power in his arm, AKA. KCM/KCSM.
Enough with this overblown guessing game, m'kay?

Bro this isn’t relevant. Please refrain from this topic. It’s not relevant to this thread

 

[sageof8paths]

Sure, Low 5-B for MAS. I can agree to that.

But why stop here? We can go further beyond.
There is a statement from Saikyō Jump that declares that Naruto's Tailed Beast Mode can destroy the Earth ("earth" as in the planet, not the ground), and considering they are more powerful than a Moon level+ characters, there should be no contentions with the scaling, yes?

Yes but this thread isn’t the place to argue it. This thread was supposed to be a simple scale with no contention. I agree that they don’t just stop at low 5B but this thread is only for that

 

[Avengershows]

Sure, Low 5-B for MAS. I can agree to that.

But why stop here? We can go further beyond.
There is a statement from Saikyō Jump that declares that Naruto's Tailed Beast Mode can destroy the Earth ("earth" as in the planet, not the ground), and considering they are more powerful than a Moon level+ characters, there should be no contentions with the scaling, yes?

It isn't the planet, I've seen the scan and the kanji used is the one for ground, even OD translates it as earth as in the substance and not Earth

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Bro this isn’t relevant. Please refrain from this topic. It’s not relevant to this thread

How is me debunking the idea that Naruto used SPSM when he one-shot Toneri not relevant? If that were true, the whole premise of your CRT would crumble.

 

[sageof8paths]

It isn't the planet, I've seen the scan and the kanji used is the one for ground, even OD translates it as earth as in the substance and not Earth

Od translated it to earth. As in the earth. But again this isn’t the thread to argue it

 

[Mageman460]

How is me debunking the idea that Naruto used SPSM when he one-shot Toneri not relevant? If that were true, the whole premise of your CRT would crumble.

No the argument is that Susanoo on Kurama is Low 5-B because it's their combined power. And that Jigen and Isshiki scale to that because the two of them wouldn't be able to beat him at all.

 

[sageof8paths]

How is me debunking the idea that Naruto used SPSM when he one-shot Toneri not relevant? If that were true, the whole premise of your CRT would crumble.

No tf it’s not. Please go re-read my arguement bro. It really isn’t relevant. All we need to know is naruto and sasuke should scale to Toneri’s golden wheel individually as a lowball.

 

[Avengershows]

Od translated it to earth. As in the earth. But again this isn’t the thread to argue it

I remember it, she definitely didn't capitalize the E in earth. Plus I can go and ask Rei after I find the scan again

 

[sageof8paths]

No the argument is that Susanoo on Kurama is Low 5-B because it's their combined power. And that Jigen and Isshiki scale to that because the two of them wouldn't be able to beat him at all.

Finally someone understands

 

[sageof8paths]

I remember it, she definitely didn't capitalize the E in earth. Plus I can go and ask Rei after I find the scan again

Then do it in another thread

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

No the argument is that Susanoo on Kurama is Low 5-B because it's their combined power. And that Jigen and Isshiki scale to that because the two of them wouldn't be able to beat him at all.

Oh, okay then.
Majestic Attire Susano'o can be Low 5-B, sure. Jigen and Isshiki don't scale to it, though. They're above Naruto and Sasuke individually, but not necessarily when they're combined.

 

[sageof8paths]

Oh, okay then.
Majestic Attire Susano'o can be Low 5-B, sure. Jigen and Isshiki don't scale to it, though. They're above Naruto and Sasuke individually, but not necessarily when they're combined.

Bro go read my ****** arguement. Jigen 100% scales to and above it. I have linked numerous amounts of statements to prove why he does

 

[WrongIdea21]

I remember it, she definitely didn't capitalize the E in earth. Plus I can go and ask Rei after I find the scan again

Its like to Say Wumbo without turning M in the front of the Wumbo.

 

[sageof8paths]

Oh, okay then.
Majestic Attire Susano'o can be Low 5-B, sure. Jigen and Isshiki don't scale to it, though. They're above Naruto and Sasuke individually, but not necessarily when they're combined.

Sasuke stated verbatim that he’s too strong, the only way to beat him is to keep stalling until his life runs out. Naruto says verbatim that they aren’t capable of beating him. Along with more proof

 

[Avengershows]

Then do it in another thread

Not worthy of a thread, just mentioning it here before someone repeats the misunderstanding:
The Kanji used is "大地" which refers to "earth" as "solid earth" and "ground"

 

[sageof8paths]

Not worthy of a thread, just mentioning it here before someone repeats the misunderstanding:
The Kanji used is "大地" which refers to "earth" as "solid earth" and "ground"

Yes bet there will still be contention as u have not brought proof

 

[Avengershows]

Yes bet there will still be contention as u have not brought proof

eh, I mean it isn't hard to look the term up or ask a translator?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Bro go read my ****** arguement. Jigen 100% scales to and above it. I have linked numerous amounts of statements to prove why he does

It would certainly benefit you to not be so ******* rude.

 

[sageof8paths]

It would certainly benefit you to not be so ******* rude.

I’m not being rude. That’s just how u talk. My bad if I came off that way

 

[sageof8paths]

I’m not being rude. That’s just how u talk. My bad if I came off that way

But seriously tho. Please re-read my isshiki section in my arguement. Jigen in partial otsutsuki form should scale above it. And isshiki should scale far above it