Minor darkaeid immortality 8 correction

[Oliver_de_jesus]

his is immortality 8 of darkseid but it lacks context: spectre Hall Jordan travels to Apocalis, where he tries to save a girl, but Darkseid appears, then Hall destroys him, but returns, Hall intrigued by this, looking for information and, thanks to Metron, who brought him to the source, discovers that Darkseid it is negative energy. of creation and the source resurrects him if he dies

specter #19 vol.4 literally one page away from what is in the profile as your type 8

 

[Eficiente]

Those images are super tiny, if you can create an album in imgur with everything together and readable then we may replace what we have for it, and with a more elaborated text.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

done

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

So is it High 1-A type 8 or no?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yes

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Well, I know about your opinion. I want opinions of other people becuz I'm still not convinced yet.

 

[Antvasima]

The only thing we know is that a higher power than the base level Hal Jordan Spectre resurrected him. That is all.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

wait auro I realize the imgur trolled me apparently the scans are around low up so they won't understand.

 

[Antvasima]

I skimmed through the linked full comicbook, but even though The Source may have resurrected Darkseid this time, this does not mean that it does so constantly.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I know but even so you have to fix type 8 or change it a bit for limited type 8 is basically the relationship of God (not toaa or OAA) and Ghost riders .

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask ClassicNESfa and Sandman31 to comment here if you wish.

 

[Eficiente]

I skimmed through the linked full comicbook, but even though The Source may have resurrected Darkseid this time, this does not mean that it does so constantly.

This.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Okey then it is accepted that darkseid has an immortality 8 high 1A but it is not that it works to work at all times?

 

[Eficiente]

The type 8 will be removed.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

you talk about Darkseid type 8 or immortality 8 in general.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

you talk about Darkseid type 8 or immortality 8 in general.

He's talking about Darkseid's type 8, I think.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

He's talking about Darkseid's type 8, I think.

If that were the case, it would not make sense. It is established that the source can revive him if he wants it, only that he does not plow it as long as he dies. he is resuscitated by the ghosts of the dream if they slow him down and I can continue to give examples, he simply will not resuscitate him literally every second he dies.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask ClassicNESfa and Sandman31 to comment here if you wish.

Did you do this?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

I tried to get NES here but it seems that he's inactive currently.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Did you do this?

If I did it, it's just that I forgot to tell you.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

something else antv

apparently the imgur will not let me save the feat as such, since the images change position (the last one is the first one for example) there are already 4 attempts to change so it is best to read the comic or at least someone tries create an imgur after reading the comic and the context

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Eficiente]

For reference you can reorder the images in an album you make in Imagur, there's an option for that.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Thank you, I didn't really know. I'll do it now when I return home (I hardly ever use imgur and I give super long image links one by one that don't use any specific page)

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

I skimmed through the linked full comicbook, but even though The Source may have resurrected Darkseid this time, this does not mean that it does so constantly.

So does that qualify for High 1-A Type 8 or not?

 

[Antvasima]

I am not sure. I would prefer input from the experts that I mentioned earlier.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask ClassicNESfa and Sandman31 to comment here if you wish.

Matthew might also be willing to help.

 

[ClassicNESfan]

Sorry. I think I somehow missed this request.

The DeMatteis story in question seems to suggest that Darkseid is a necessary aspect of existence and thus cannot be truly destroyed for good. I do in fact think this is consistent with the portrayal of his true nature throughout the years and DC's official word on the matter, but that hasn't stopped inconsistencies from popping up from time to time. Granted, you could perhaps argue that those inconsistencies are novel cases caused by the canonicity of the stories or Darkseid not truly being dead in the end, but I do think it would be fair to make the case that some writers simply don't treat him like he is a necessary part of the universe. The question is which one we treat as the exception and which one we treat as the rule.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Well I'm not familiar with the first case. But in Darkseid War, not only was the Black Racer needed specifically in order to kill him, otherwise he wouldn't have died. When he did "die" reality started to freak out and created multiple other gods just so it can fill the void Darkseid left. And Darkseid was reborn in the end anyway.

So I really wouldn't call that case inconsistent. He was important enough to existence, that it was required a special method for him to be killed. And he got reborn anyway.

 

[ClassicNESfan]

Well, I'm trying to present both arguments as fairly as possible, but yes, it does feel more like Darkseid's necessity is only really ignored in alternate universes. From a narrative perspective, that doesn't make a lot of sense, but from a meta perspective, it's most likely the result of writers being handed the keys to the character and being told they can do what they like since it's an elseworld.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

That makes sense at most one could say that it all depends on the writer since not everyone shares the same interpretation so there are many comics where superman is only 5B and there are others after several years and change of author where he has a level 4B after a change of author now all his exploits do not go beyond tier 6 and that's why there are many plot holes about his power, the same thing happens here

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you both for the input.

@ClassicNESfan

Would you be willing to handle the required edits?

 

[ClassicNESfan]

What exactly are you asking me to do? Just to add context to the feat?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

if basic is to add context because the current justification is missing.

 

[ClassicNESfan]

Sure. I'd be happy to edit that in.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Thanks brother

 

[ClassicNESfan]

I will still need Ant to unlock the page before I can make any changes though.